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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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Anyone who thinks that wages are low in Germany is just :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor]
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i really should clarify -- too low. ie too low for what Qman expects Germans to work for, apparently.

their wages really aren't low. their unemployment rate is low too, but Qman is complaining about how it's high, but he's only doing so because he thinks that the jobs are being taken by migrants -- which could be true. it's sounds likely.

i was just giving an explanation to Qman. if he doesn't it, too bad. he could at least try and prove me wrong though.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor]
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viktor said:
Anyone who thinks that wages are low in Germany is just :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:



https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2012/03/germ-m22.html

"the income of more than 23 percent of all employees now falls under the official low pay threshold."

https://www.rt.com/news/233923-germany-poverty-wage-inequality/

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-jobs-idUSTRE8170P120120208

"One out of five jobs is a 'mini-job' earning workers a maximum 400 euros per month"

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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i love how Qman just created a straw man, and that's it. LOL

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
i love how Qman just created a straw man, and that's it. LOL



There's no straw, just the facts. :shrug:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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no. see top of the page for: facts.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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qman said:
akira_akuma said:
the case with Germany- their labor pool is low



Bullshit, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, I proved that Germany has both a wage and unemployment problem. Once again, you bought into the liberal propaganda.



No, you didn't prove Germany had an unemployment problem, you only claimed Germany had an unemployment problem, and when asked for evidence you realized you were wrong and changed it to the EU has an unemployment problem and provided a link showing German unemployment was only 4.3%.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
akira_akuma said:
the case with Germany- their labor pool is low



Bullshit, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, I proved that Germany has both a wage and unemployment problem. Once again, you bought into the liberal propaganda.



No, you didn't prove Germany had an unemployment problem, you only claimed Germany had an unemployment problem, and when asked for evidence you realized you were wrong and changed it to the EU has an unemployment problem and provided a link showing German unemployment was only 4.3%.



And then I posted these links.

https://europeansting.com/2014/01/21/eurostat-real-unemployment-double-than-the-official-rate/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/10242667/Germanys-low-unemployment-rate-hides-real-hardship.html

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/05/05/rich-germany-has-a-poverty-problem-inequality-europe/

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/04/20/employers-network-finds-just-2000-internships-for-one-million-migrants/

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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Which was also promptly rebutted:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Once again, you point out U6 unemployment, which I've told you before I don't mind using if you understand what the historical highs and lows for that are in tight and loose economies.

Germany, like the US, has a low unemployment rate right not, whichever measure you choose to look at.



Germany does not have an unemployment problem.

I think you try too hard to change reality to fit a narrative.  I prefer to come up with a narrative based on reality.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Fal is the hero the shroomery political sub needs. :cheers:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The jobless rate in Germany is meaningless when the muslim immigrants are work shy welfare moochers. Take a look at the graph in this link and look at the proportions of unemployed muslims, who needless to say, rate the worst in Germany. The situation would be far worse now as this predates the mass muslim immigrant/rapefugee invasion of 2015/2016.

http://www.dw.com/en/immigrants-struggle-in-german-job-market/a-17083761

Before some PeeCee douche froths at the mouth the similar jobless rates affect Muslims in Australia.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/number-of-unemployed-muslims-more-than-twice-national-average/news-story/719c039483fea7b395e169055670516b

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/high-unemployment-among-muslims-linked-to-war-on-terror/story-e6frg6n6-1226516162590

Of course the media likes to paint the story as one of discrimination. But the simple fact is muslims market themselves badly as scumbag crims, terrorists and council housing loafs shitting out endless sprogs to suck up more welfare coin. Even Mark Latham, leftist and former ALP leader, said as much:

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/mark-latham-claims-western-sydney-has-a-muslim-problem-on-the-verdict-20151009-gk4ty0.html

In short you don’t want the muslim free loaders in your country. They have no redeeming features.

The pattern, like muslims, is the leftists in this political forum have no qualifications to real jobs, and/or are under employed, or working in some menial job with no connection to the arts bollocks degree they did. Hence their massive post counts because they have nothing else in their lives. So naturally they feel a kinship with their loser unemployed/unemployable muslim pets evidenced by their tireless islamic support.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter]
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Starter said:
The jobless rate in Germany is meaningless when the muslim immigrants are work shy welfare moochers. Take a look at the graph in this link and look at the proportions of unemployed muslims, who needless to say, rate the worst in Germany. The situation would be far worse now as this predates the mass muslim immigrant/rapefugee invasion of 2015/2016.

http://www.dw.com/en/immigrants-struggle-in-german-job-market/a-17083761



German unemployment is very low, but illegal immigrant employment is not as low.

So what exactly is your point here?  That Germany should force employers to hire illegals???

Starter said:
Before some PeeCee douche froths at the mouth the similar jobless rates affect Muslims in Australia.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/number-of-unemployed-muslims-more-than-twice-national-average/news-story/719c039483fea7b395e169055670516b

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/high-unemployment-among-muslims-linked-to-war-on-terror/story-e6frg6n6-1226516162590



Why would a "PeeCee douche" froth at the mouth about this?  Again, is it your opinion that Germany should force employers to hire illegals?

Starter said:
Of course the media likes to paint the story as one of discrimination. But the simple fact is muslims market themselves badly as scumbag crims, terrorists and council housing loafs shitting out endless sprogs to suck up more welfare coin. Even Mark Latham, leftist and former ALP leader, said as much:

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/mark-latham-claims-western-sydney-has-a-muslim-problem-on-the-verdict-20151009-gk4ty0.html



What news source is accusing Germany of being discriminatory for not hiring illegals?  Can you point to one?  Or did you just make that up?

Starter said:
The pattern is the leftists in this political forum have no qualifications to real jobs, and/or are under employed, or working in some menial job with no connection to the arts bollocks degree they did. Hence their massive post counts because they have nothing else in their lives. So naturally they feel a kinship with their loser unemployed/unemployable muslim pets evidenced by their tireless islamic support.



Are you saying my engineering degrees and MBA have no relevance to my job, and I am underemployed with a six figure salary in the semiconductor industry in Silicon Valley?

Or are you yet another conservative that just makes up his own reality?  :shrug:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Starter said:
The pattern, like muslims, is the leftists in this political forum have no qualifications to real jobs, and/or are under employed, or working in some menial job with no connection to the arts bollocks degree they did. Hence their massive post counts because they have nothing else in their lives. So naturally they feel a kinship with their loser unemployed/unemployable muslim pets evidenced by their tireless islamic support.



Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Are you saying my engineering degrees and MBA have no relevance to my job, and I am underemployed with a six figure salary in the semiconductor industry in Silicon Valley?

Or are you yet another conservative that just makes up his own reality?  :shrug:



Starter has presented these arguments before, I reduced his theories to inane dust that time. But obviously he still believes that bullshit. He has to. It's either that or having to realize that his worldview is fiction.

I can add that I have a masters degree in mechanical engineering (since 6 years), and that I have never been unemployed.
I'm working with project management for an engineering department in the manufacturing industry at the moment.

Starters ignorance in this matter knows no fucking limits.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
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Falcon, I pressed your buttons, eh. You want your dick sucked because you’re on 6-figures? This is the sort of employment I do and there’s always work out there for my skills. 6-figures is the usual in this game.

https://au.linkedin.com/jobs/view/139322027?trkInfo=searchKeywordString%3AGeospatial%2CsearchLocationString%3A%2C+%2Cvertical%3Ajobs%2CpageNum%3A1%2Cposition%3A2%2CMSRPsearchId%3A33ea712d-dbd1-4cfb-8939-ae5dae9e92a5_1464513026290&refId=33ea712d-dbd1-4cfb-8939-ae5dae9e92a5_1464513026290&trk=jobs_jserp_job_listing_text

https://au.linkedin.com/jobs/view/153920923?trkInfo=searchKeywordString%3AGeospatial%2CsearchLocationString%3A%2C+%2Cvertical%3Ajobs%2CpageNum%3A1%2Cposition%3A6%2CMSRPsearchId%3A33ea712d-dbd1-4cfb-8939-ae5dae9e92a5_1464513026290&refId=33ea712d-dbd1-4cfb-8939-ae5dae9e92a5_1464513026290&trk=jobs_jserp_job_listing_text

https://au.jora.com/job/Geospatial-Support-Analyst-3d08df819cba05223c7ef036b5b00a52?from_url=https%3A%2F%2Fau.jora.com%2FGeospatial-Analyst-jobs%3Futm_campaign%3Ddynamic%26utm_source%3Dgoogle%26utm_medium%3Dcpc%26gclid%3DCjwKEAjwpqq6BRC99aKUkaSjuDsSJAC0pNTV4tBxqNfEiSkFYiJxuiRj8qfPvbngxhR9MS578ogrrBoChtPw_wcB&sl=&sp=serp&sponsored=false&sq=Geospatial+Analyst&sr=2

http://www.seek.com.au/job/30965837?tracking=ILC-S%2AAU%2A-JOR-Referrer-4324&utm_campaign=dynamic&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google

I also make cash in the hand, and no tax, as a mull grower. 4k an lb and 6lb a grow or more and 5 grows an annum. Been doing it near 20 years. Do the math. This is Oz, there’s no DEA. I also invest in both shares and property. Consistency wins. One leftist fuckwit on this political board said anyone with over 5-mil should not have more. Fuck that. I’m a tad younger than you but have more in assets than that given the boom in real estate since the late 1990's. I look at these boards and I see no end of leftists as losers crying for handouts to their lost causes.

“What news source is accusing Germany of being discriminatory for not hiring illegals?  Can you point to one?  Or did you just make that up?”

Do come along. I was speaking of Australia’s media. Go back and re-read my post.

Malk, you’ve proven zip. You’re all too happy to allow your own nation to be emasculated in faggoty bitches and your women used as sprog dumps by muslim immigrant rapists you defend as diversity. You call that tolerance. I call that cowardice.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter]
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Is this your way of backing up the claim that left wing-ish people on this forum aren't educated and don't have jobs? Seriously?

...but instead of arguments you just regurgitate all sorts of cool degrading words and make yourself sound like some hillbilly retard who thinks using ones mind is not masculine enough.

And the claim that I haven't proven anything regarding the correlation between political standpoint and education/employ-ability is backed up with a completely false description on how you perceive the country I live, as if that could have any relevance at all. It does not. And it wouldn't have even if your perception would be correct.  Where I live has nothing to do with anything and is not a valid argument.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
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Have you ever been tested for autism?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
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Quote:
Is this your way of backing up the claim that left wing-ish people on this forum aren't educated and don't have jobs? Seriously?



Malk, fact is leftists believe: from each according to his ability to each according to his need. The reason for their believing in this philosophy of State sponsored theft is to made good their ne’er-do-well shortcomings by taking from others who have put the graft in.

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...but instead of arguments you just regurgitate all sorts of cool degrading words and make yourself sound like some hillbilly retard who thinks using ones mind is not masculine enough.



It’s “one’s mind”, you lost the possessive, not that you’re using your mind to ever be masculine. Look at that campy avatar you have – i.e. some sort of Nordic you can’t stop the music Village People extra? Don’t worry; you can die with your secret.

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And the claim that I haven't proven anything regarding the correlation between political standpoint and education/employ-ability is backed up with a completely false description on how you perceive the country I live, as if that could have any relevance at all. It does not.



It does, in that you’re so clever (so you think), but your nation has now become the rape capital of Europe because it has bent over ass cheeks spread for multiculturalism. Are you proud of your tolerance?

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

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And it wouldn't have even if your perception would be correct.  Where I live has nothing to do with anything and is not a valid argument.



Read my previous point. Your nation is fucked by leftist delusion and you’ve screwed the future on Swedes not even born because of turd world immigrant invasion. Won’t happen in Australia because we’re happy to be racists, bigots, rednecks and hillbillies (yes, I enjoyed that one you said), so going forward we’ll retain our high end of being up in the most livable and enviable lifestyle nations on the planet. We’ll vote the conservatives in again this July because we don’t give two fucks for pandering to muslim illegals that are locked up in PNG. If they self immolate or are beat to death by the natives it’s small violins.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter] * 1
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Starter said:
The reason for their believing in this philosophy of State sponsored theft is to made good their ne’er-do-well shortcomings by taking from others who have put the graft in.




So "leftist" can never "put the graft in".
Is someone who puts the graft in automatically right wing?
Newsflash, it is actually possible to earn money and want to give it away to those in need.

Starter said:
Look at that campy avatar you have – i.e. some sort of Nordic you can’t stop the music Village People extra? Don’t worry; you can die with your secret.




So now my avatar is relevant to the discussion?
Why are you making everything personal instead of actually saying anything regarding the actual topic?

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It does, in that you’re so clever (so you think), but your nation has now become the rape capital of Europe because it has bent over ass cheeks spread for multiculturalism. Are you proud of your tolerance?




What has happen to my country has nothing to do with me or the arguments I have presented in this thread or anywhere else. Are you seriously saying that if I had come from another country my arguments would mean something else?
Where I come from has no fucking relevance what so ever. Stop bringing up irrelevant personal stuff to the "discussion".

And I will not discuss the rape issue with you, you are obviously not informed at all and yet you have already made up your mind with some kind of simplistic explanation that fits your already defined worldview. Same thing over and over... Find the story that fits the chosen narrative... Why not try to learn stuff and then base opinions on that stuff afterwards instead? Try it, you might learn something.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter]
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Starter said:
You want your dick sucked because you’re on 6-figures?



I only brought it up is because you made the claim that "the leftists in this political forum have no qualifications to real jobs, and/or are under employed, or working in some menial job with no connection to the arts bollocks degree they did."

Starter said:
This is the sort of employment I do and there’s always work out there for my skills. 6-figures is the usual in this game.

https://au.linkedin.com/jobs/view/139322027?trkInfo=searchKeywordString%3AGeospatial%2CsearchLocationString%3A%2C+%2Cvertical%3Ajobs%2CpageNum%3A1%2Cposition%3A2%2CMSRPsearchId%3A33ea712d-dbd1-4cfb-8939-ae5dae9e92a5_1464513026290&refId=33ea712d-dbd1-4cfb-8939-ae5dae9e92a5_1464513026290&trk=jobs_jserp_job_listing_text

https://au.linkedin.com/jobs/view/153920923?trkInfo=searchKeywordString%3AGeospatial%2CsearchLocationString%3A%2C+%2Cvertical%3Ajobs%2CpageNum%3A1%2Cposition%3A6%2CMSRPsearchId%3A33ea712d-dbd1-4cfb-8939-ae5dae9e92a5_1464513026290&refId=33ea712d-dbd1-4cfb-8939-ae5dae9e92a5_1464513026290&trk=jobs_jserp_job_listing_text

https://au.jora.com/job/Geospatial-Support-Analyst-3d08df819cba05223c7ef036b5b00a52?from_url=https%3A%2F%2Fau.jora.com%2FGeospatial-Analyst-jobs%3Futm_campaign%3Ddynamic%26utm_source%3Dgoogle%26utm_medium%3Dcpc%26gclid%3DCjwKEAjwpqq6BRC99aKUkaSjuDsSJAC0pNTV4tBxqNfEiSkFYiJxuiRj8qfPvbngxhR9MS578ogrrBoChtPw_wcB&sl=&sp=serp&sponsored=false&sq=Geospatial+Analyst&sr=2

http://www.seek.com.au/job/30965837?tracking=ILC-S%2AAU%2A-JOR-Referrer-4324&utm_campaign=dynamic&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google

I also make cash in the hand, and no tax, as a mull grower. 4k an lb and 6lb a grow or more and 5 grows an annum. Been doing it near 20 years. Do the math. This is Oz, there’s no DEA. I also invest in both shares and property.



Do you want your dick sucked?  I really don't care what you do - I never made a false claim about it.

Starter said:
One leftist fuckwit on this political board said anyone with over 5-mil should not have more. Fuck that.



So argue with that guy about it.  You're dumb if you believe all liberals think no one should have over $5 million.  I live in the Silicon Valley which is loaded with ultra wealthy liberals.  Liberals aren't complaining about wealth, unless someone got wealthy by screwing people over.

Starter said:
I look at these boards and I see no end of leftists as losers crying for handouts to their lost causes.



Can you point to a single post on this political forum where where liberals are looking for handouts?  Conservatives often make that claim, but they're proven wrong about this.  Unless you think schools, roads, etc are "handouts".

Starter said:
“What news source is accusing Germany of being discriminatory for not hiring illegals?  Can you point to one?  Or did you just make that up?”

I was speaking of Australia’s media.



Ok, please post an Australian news source that accuses anyone of being discriminatory for not hiring illegals.

Starter said:
Malk, you’ve proven zip.



He's proven what I've proven - that you're clueless about the qualifications of liberals.

Starter said:
You’re all too happy to allow your own nation to be emasculated in faggoty bitches and your women used as sprog dumps by muslim immigrant rapists you defend as diversity. You call that tolerance. I call that cowardice.



Not one here defends rapists.  Please stop making every single post of yours up.

Starter said:
Malk, fact is leftists believe: from each according to his ability to each according to his need. The reason for their believing in this philosophy of State sponsored theft is to made good their ne’er-do-well shortcomings by taking from others who have put the graft in.



You're confusing leftism with communism.

Starter said:
Malkuthian said:
...but instead of arguments you just regurgitate all sorts of cool degrading words and make yourself sound like some hillbilly retard who thinks using ones mind is not masculine enough.





:whathesaid:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Which was also promptly rebutted:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Once again, you point out U6 unemployment, which I've told you before I don't mind using if you understand what the historical highs and lows for that are in tight and loose economies.

Germany, like the US, has a low unemployment rate right not, whichever measure you choose to look at.



Germany does not have an unemployment problem.

I think you try too hard to change reality to fit a narrative.  I prefer to come up with a narrative based on reality.



https://europeansting.com/2014/01/21/eurostat-real-unemployment-double-than-the-official-rate/

Germany's unemployment near 12%.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/10242667/Germanys-low-unemployment-rate-hides-real-hardship.html

20% of German workers are employed on a tax-exempt mini job earning 450 Euros or less a month.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/05/05/rich-germany-has-a-poverty-problem-inequality-europe/

Sorry Fal, German citizens have not only have a unemployment/underemployment and wage problem, they also have a poverty problem, the headline unemployment statistics are MEANINGLESS.

These are all the classic signs of a labor market that already has too many workers relative to demand.

Edited by qman (05/30/16 09:44 AM)

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