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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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viktor said:
These things go in cycles.



Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Meh, Christianity gained in popularity and brought Rome into the dark ages.



:lol: Kind of what we see happening in Europe today then, with the rise of Islam?

Edited by Bubbles85 (05/27/16 06:09 AM)

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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Exactly. The Muslims are the barbarian hordes, coming to plunder your fat welfare states.

Will you fight? Or surrender like dogs?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
Cut the psychoanalysis nonsense, the video was clear cut and I am "viewing it for what it is", bigotry towards white people.



It's interesting that most white people, such as myself, view the video as bigotry towards bigots.  But you view it as bigotry towards white people, since you are the target of the video.

Bubbles85 said:
when a group of white British natives protest in the UK against radical Islam, that group will all most certainly, 100% of the time, be met with resistance from opposition groups who believe they're racist.

However, when a group of radical Muslims do exactly the same thing, the protest is ignored by the groups that would clash with the native population and brushed off like its not happening.



Huh???  If Muslims protested against white people, I certainly wouldn't tolerate that.  But if they protested against bigotry, then I'd support them, while all the bigots will scratch their heads and wonder why they are targeting white people.



"since you are the target (whites) of that video"

Thanks for proving my point, there was a specific target. How come a blacks, Asians, Hispanics, or Arabs weren't the target?  :popcorn:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
Thanks for proving my point, there was a specific target. How come a blacks, Asians, Hispanics, or Arabs weren't the target?  :popcorn:



Off course there was a specific target: Islamophobic narrow minded people.
That's why you are the target, not because you are white. As explained by Falcon...
If the narrow minded persons are white or black is not relevant at all. The narrow mindedness is still the same, and it's still the target. Stop making everything about ethnicity already. Everything is not focused on ethnicity, only you are. Yet again a distinct indication that you have serious problems understanding perspectives beyond your already made up mind.

Just learn to read what people actually write instead of yet again transforming everything so it fits your little fairy tale. Same thing every post....

Communication.
You're doing it wrong

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
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Malkuthian said:
qman said:
Thanks for proving my point, there was a specific target. How come a blacks, Asians, Hispanics, or Arabs weren't the target?  :popcorn:



Off course there was a specific target: Islamophobic narrow minded people.
That's why you are the target, not because you are white. As explained by Falcon...
If the narrow minded persons are white or black is not relevant at all. The narrow mindedness is still the same, and it's still the target. Stop making everything about ethnicity already. Everything is not focused on ethnicity, only you are. Yet again a distinct indication that you have serious problems understanding perspectives beyond your already made up mind.

Just learn to read what people actually write instead of yet again transforming everything so it fits your little fairy tale. Same thing every post....

Communication.
You're doing it wrong



"If the narrow minded persons are white or black is not relevant at all"

I agree, yet the video only illustrated that narrow mindedness coming from white culture, why was that?

"Stop making everything about ethnicity already"

You mean like the video did?  Illustrating white people being bigots towards Muslims is "making everything about ethnicity".

Why are you guys having such a hard time admitting that the video was biased?

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 2
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You sound like a feminist whining about not enough women are represented everywhere.
"there are only men in this picture, you discriminate women".

Because you are stuck in your little never changing bubble you will always grasp at straws as soon as someone who does not agree with you does or says something. You try to hard to find something that maybe has some possible weak spot that you can put all your focus on instead of just listening to the point that is made. Now you just sound like a politically correct moron yourself. "There only whites in this picture, buhu". C'mon for fucks sake, that aint you. That's rhetorical bullshit. Your not the type that whines over discrimination. Your just using that little rhetorical trick to create an opponent which you can oppose, and to not have to address the actual topic, which was prejudice against Muslims...

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
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Malkuthian said:
You sound like a feminist whining about not enough women are represented everywhere.
"there are only men in this picture, you discriminate women".

Because you are stuck in your little never changing bubble you will always grasp at straws as soon as someone who does not agree with you does or says something. You try to hard to find something that maybe has some possible weak spot that you can put all your focus on instead of just listening to the point that is made. Now you just sound like a politically correct moron yourself. "There only whites in this picture, buhu". C'mon for fucks sake, that aint you. That's rhetorical bullshit. Your not the type that whines over discrimination. Your just using that little rhetorical trick to create an opponent which you can oppose, and to not have to address the actual topic, which was prejudice against Muslims...



Pointing out the bias in a politically correct video does NOT mean I'm being politically correct. :facepalm:

"address the actual topic, which was prejudice against Muslims"

I have already stated that there was a degree of validity in the biased video.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 2
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qman said:
Pointing out the bias in a politically correct video does NOT mean I'm being politically correct. :facepalm:



I said you were acting like one of those people.
...People who see a commercial about roller skates and notice that 3 of 3 people in the commercial is white and make a deal about it. "Why are they saying only white people skate".


Or maybe?
Maybe the group that produced the video is a group of friends or small company who used themselves as actors, all happening to be white. Cheaper than buying actors and basing your choices on their ethnicity to make it clear to all fastidious forum-lamers that no one is suggesting only white people are bigots. Maybe not so likely. Maybe there were most white people who applied for the job? Who the fuck knows? That's the point. You are making a deal out of this as if it were an obvious agenda from the creators to show the world that white people are racist scum. Why do you make this assumption?  You don't know. You are just taking for granted that anyone who opposes you is a political correct retard who hates white people and thinks all other ethnic groups are awesome. Polarization of opinions. You are really into creating two diametrical sides. Westerners - Muslims. Right wing - Left Wing. Your side - Completely against everything you stand for. Etc. Reality aint that black and white...

Or maybe?
I live in a white city. There are a lot of refugees coming here, hence there is a lot of racism towards them from the general population, which i 99,9% white in this area. If I want to make a video portraying THIS racism, I would off course use people that represents what is happening here, if people here are white, the people in the video will be white. I would think it's reasonable that if a video were made in a black community, they would use black actors to represent the situation with THAT racism. Why do you think this video were made to represent all of the worlds population? Why aren't there any hindus in the video man!? Why are you so certain someone want to make a point because only white people are bigots in the short little clip with few people? Everything is not a part of an agenda that opposes you... The world is not divided in diametrical sides.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
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Malkuthian said:
qman said:
Pointing out the bias in a politically correct video does NOT mean I'm being politically correct. :facepalm:



I said you were acting like one of those people.
...People who see a commercial about roller skates and notice that 3 of 3 people in the commercial is white and make a deal about it. "Why are they saying only white people skate".


Or maybe?
Maybe the group that produced the video is a group of friends or small company who used themselves as actors, all happening to be white. Cheaper than buying actors and basing your choices on their ethnicity to make it clear to all fastidious forum-lamers that no one is suggesting only white people are bigots. Maybe not so likely. Maybe there were most white people who applied for the job? Who the fuck knows? That's the point. You are making a deal out of this as if it were an obvious agenda from the creators to show the world that white people are racist scum. Why do you make this assumption?  You don't know. You are just taking for granted that anyone who opposes you is a political correct retard who hates white people and thinks all other ethnic groups are awesome. Polarization of opinions. You are really into creating two diametrical sides. Westerners - Muslims. Right wing - Left Wing. Your side - Completely against everything you stand for. Etc. Reality aint that black and white...

Or maybe?
I live in a white city. There are a lot of refugees coming here, hence there is a lot of racism towards them from the general population, which i 99,9% white in this area. If I want to make a video portraying THIS racism, I would off course use people that represents what is happening here, if people here are white, the people in the video will be white. I would think it's reasonable that if a video were made in a black community, they would use black actors to represent the situation with THAT racism. Why do you think this video were made to represent all of the worlds population? Why aren't there any hindus in the video man!? Why are you so certain someone want to make a point because only white people are bigots in the short little clip with few people? Everything is not a part of an agenda that opposes you... The world is not divided in diametrical sides.



You're a real piece of work Mal, I'm sure there was just a logical logistical rational for the bigots being white and the Muslims being victims. :facepalm:

"as if it were an obvious agenda from the creators to show the world that white people are racist scum"

It's was very obvious, even you know it now.

"you are really into creating two diametrical sides"

Oh really, I'm the one that created a biased video which shows how WHITES are bigots and how MUSLIMS are victims of bigotry.

I'm simply pointing out the bias in the video, a blind man could see it. You're making a fool of yourself trying the rationalize the obvious, keep telling yourself they couldn't find any black actors. :huxleyfacepalm:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 2
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Your face palm guy is white, are you suggesting only whites mock other people?

Also, read the second "or maybe" again.
The people being white in the video is not strange. The video is made by white people.
It doesn't fucking suggest that only white people are bigots.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
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http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/germans-move-christian-hungary-flee-migrant-crisis-1562217

German's fleeing their invaded homeland for peace and safety, so sad.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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Bubbles85 said:
My point remains valid. The natives do not take to the streets to protest against radical Muslims skin color.



Are you suggesting the natives are only protesting radical Muslims, and would like the rest of the Muslims to stay?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Bubbles85 said:
My point remains valid. The natives do not take to the streets to protest against radical Muslims skin color.



Are you suggesting the natives are only protesting radical Muslims, and would like the rest of the Muslims to stay?



Speaking soley in terms of the situation in the UK and my self, then sure why not.

I do feel however, that we should be severely limiting the numbers of any further Muslims migrating into the UK and the rest of Europe from the Third World at this time.

The Muslim population in the UK is currently at a level of 5%, or 3 million people, which means it's not impossible given time and a restriction on further immigration as state above, for the majority of these people to eventually integrate in to the wider population and hopefully adopt British values.

Islam is as political as it is religious and i feel that the numbers of Muslims currently coming into the UK and the rest of Europe, gives rise to many of them wishing to change the way our country's currently operate to better suit their religious beliefs, which I'm fully against. It's also very damaging to efforts of integration.

Mass immigration needs to be stopped now and the people who have all ready made their home here (legally of course, illegal migrants should still be deported) need the time to integrate properly.
The continuation of mass numbers of people arriving week after week, severely dampens those efforts and the trend needs to be reversed.
If not, i suspect that the UK and the rest of Europe, is in for some very hard times ahead.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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qman said:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/germans-move-christian-hungary-flee-migrant-crisis-1562217

German's fleeing their invaded homeland for peace and safety, so sad.



wow, how vaginal.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Bubbles85 said:
My point remains valid. The natives do not take to the streets to protest against radical Muslims skin color.



Are you suggesting the natives are only protesting radical Muslims, and would like the rest of the Muslims to stay?



This is great because we all know thats not thr case, but bubbles will try his hardest to comvince us otherwise.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor]
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viktor said:
Exactly. The Muslims are the barbarian hordes, coming to plunder your fat welfare states.

Will you fight? Or surrender like dogs?



it's more like: economic migrants are dogging the refugees, and as an entering criminal element -- whom have ties to predominant theocratic countries, that have the ailment of fundamentalist Islam (or radicalism) -- they need to be arrested, and deported.

that's more accurate. the Muslims aren't coming. the Syrian Muslims aren't very resistant, at all, to integration. they come from a nation that has been predominantly secular.

it's the ones entering (illegally) whom aren't refugees, that are causing problems, and they should be duly arrested, as has always been the case. they shouldn't have been let in either, but with the incompetence of government & police officials, they've failed on that account -- and they continue to fail to police their streets, because they are understaffed, and witless, and the rest of the people are told by their government to stay indoors; and then fail to arrest those whom are committing crimes.

as that one user from Germany said, not too long ago. it's the police that are failing to do their job, mainly; and officials. it's not really that the Muslim horde is coming, it's that the people within government are too weak to do anything about the criminal elements in their city. soon the Mafia will probably step in, because the people are too afraid to take a stand, even against their failing government.

people need to be removed from their standing orders, and mitigate the problem, because the government won't do it for them...either because they don't want a panic (which is the weakest position -- considering the panic already taking place) or they want the extra labor of the economic migrants (most likely the case with Germany -- their labor pool is low).

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
viktor said:
Exactly. The Muslims are the barbarian hordes, coming to plunder your fat welfare states.

Will you fight? Or surrender like dogs?



it's more like: economic migrants are dogging the refugees, and as an entering criminal element -- whom have ties to predominant theocratic countries, that have the ailment of fundamentalist Islam (or radicalism) -- they need to be arrested, and deported.

that's more accurate. the Muslims aren't coming. the Syrian Muslims aren't very resistant, at all, to integration. they come from a nation that has been predominantly secular.

it's the ones entering (illegally) whom aren't refugees, that are causing problems, and they should be duly arrested, as has always been the case. they shouldn't have been let in either, but with the incompetence of government & police officials, they've failed on that account -- and they continue to fail to police their streets, because they are understaffed, and witless, and the rest of the people are told by their government to stay indoors; and then fail to arrest those whom are committing crimes.

as that one user from Germany said, not too long ago. it's the police that are failing to do their job, mainly; and officials. it's not really that the Muslim horde is coming, it's that the people within government are too weak to do anything about the criminal elements in their city. soon the Mafia will probably step in, because the people are too afraid to take a stand, even against their failing government.

people need to be removed from their standing orders, and mitigate the problem, because the government won't do it for them...either because they don't want a panic (which is the weakest position -- considering the panic already taking place) or they want the extra labor of the economic migrants (most likely the case with Germany -- their labor pool is low).



"the case with Germany- their labor pool is low"

Bullshit, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, I proved that Germany has both a wage and unemployment problem. Once again, you bought into the liberal propaganda.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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no. the labor pool is low, because the birth rate is abysmal, and no one wants to work in Germany, because they are either too old, or too young; and there is too many unemployed because there is not enough incentive to work with such low wages, and the wages are low because not enough people are working. it's really that simple. (that and a government bereft of entrepreneurial spirit. they depend too much on foreign power -- which is why...)

that's why Germany is probably liking the migrant situation, funnily enough; which is probably going to get Merkel ousted -- but that won't solve anything.

they are somewhat lucky to be in the EU right now.

if they have their own vote to exit the EU -- which if the UK does, they're sure to follow; and they should -- then they'll have a lot of work to do.

Edited by akira_akuma (05/27/16 09:14 PM)

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
no. the labor pool is low, because the birth rate is abysmal, and no one wants to work in Germany, because they are either too old, or too young; and there is too many unemployed because there is not enough incentive to work with such low wages, and the wages are low because not enough people are working. it's really that simple.




"the labor pool is low"

Nonsense.

"because the birth rate is abysmal"

Which could potentially impact the demographics in 2050, NOT today.

Wages are low because there's TOO many workers relative to demand.

"It's really that simple"

You have no clue about even basic economics. :facepalm:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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Quote:
Nonsense.



no.

Quote:
Which could potentially impact the demographics in 2050, NOT today.



it could impact it today; the birth rate has been too low for decades now.

Quote:
You have no clue about even basic economics. :facepalm:



you're not even making a point. i could as clueless as fuck about basic economics, doesn't mean anything when i'm right.

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