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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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yeah, no. if you enter the country as an asylum seeker, you can be determined, at a later date, to be a non-refugee.

otherwise, you can be deemed a refugee, and/or not.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
yeah, no. if you enter the country as an asylum seeker, you can be determined, at a later date, to be a non-refugee.

otherwise, you can be deemed a refugee, and/or not.



They have already determined that many people from Syria are NOT refugees.

Are you starting to understand how this works yet?  When the politicians were forced to retreat from this insane policy, borders were closed and statuses were changed, "refugee" became a term that's completely open to interpretation

Edited by qman (05/25/16 08:09 PM)

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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do you understand how logic works? do you understand that not everything you pull out of your asshole is legitimately well thought out?

i didn't say that anyone couldn't determine who's who, did i? no...i didn't.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
do you understand how logic works? do you understand that not everything you pull out of your asshole is legitimately well thought out?




"they can consider themselves refugees"

Did you think this statement out?  What they consider themselves is completely immaterial to the discussion.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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no, it isn't. if they legitimately feel they are in danger of being persecuted against by their own nation, they can flee and they'd be considered refugees.

the only time that's not the case is when they are not in danger of being persecuted against by their own nation.

:shrug: that status might not be relegated the same way by governments.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma] * 3
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this made me think of some people here.. :lol:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
this made me think of some people here.. :lol:



Yeah, because only white people can be bigots. :facepalm:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
the only time that's not the case is when they are not in danger of being persecuted against by their own nation.




That's why many people fleeing Syria are NOT considered refugees.  They were NOT fleeing persecution or war conditions.

The rest of the gang are NOT fleeing anything but shitty third world lifestyles, they're called economic migrants.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 1
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i know, i know, no one ever disagreed with you there, big guy.

but the vetting process, that's where you're conniption stems from, right? that's what you're miffed at.

LET the right RISE. WHO CARES? the vetting process sucked. yeah -- would it have been better under a different regime, MAYBE. or maybe not. or maybe the Geneva convention would never have been signed, but WHO KNOWS because we CAN NEVER KNOW because it's the past and it's TOO LATE.

so what the fuck, why don't you start trying to not repeat yourself over and over on subjects...let's talk about the REALITY of things.

the right is on the rise in Europe. true story. watch it unfold.

personally, you know, it's a fact that there is barely no one going over the border from Mexico now, right?

you realize that the last time when Reagan tried to build the wall, they flubbed it, right? you realize the wall is probably the only good idea that's come out of anyone's mouth this election, (save the socialist, funnily enough) right? go for it...but no one is even crossing the border...what a waste of fucking money...causing economic disparity in Mexico by making them pay for it (and why Mexico's gangs don't just do a coup and then commit war on America, we'll never know, because why the fuck would any leader be such a pussy as to just build someone else's fucking wall?)...the only thing you have on your goddamn agenda, other than outing SJWs (hopefully, it's like you know, pretty easy, so you might as well) and Flawed-Feminists (same), you just wanna out the cultural Blacks (culture of diss, accurately titled) of inner cities and mainstream idiot culture (a different motif in white circles, so i guess we might as well not but just touch on this subtle connection, yes, white people can be just as astounding, if they are mainstream unthinking retards), and of course, out the illegal immigrants because them illegal Central Americans keep taking your jerbs, when just like every other thing that every other person makes a stink about (other than corporate corruption of course! both literally and figuratively!), it's only a tiny blip on the fucking radar of fucking problems in your country. :shrug:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Tipote said:
this made me think of some people here.. :lol:



Yeah, because only white people can be bigots. :facepalm:



i dont think anyone has made that claim...:facepalm:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
qman said:
Tipote said:
this made me think of some people here.. :lol:



Yeah, because only white people can be bigots. :facepalm:



i dont think anyone has made that claim...:facepalm:



Really, a video based on ALL of the white people being bigots towards Muslims.

A video which tries to illustrate that white people are the problem when it comes to Arab and white culture relations.

It's beyond pathetic Tip, please come up with something a little better than that nonsense. Stuff like that only makes Trump and the far-right even stronger.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Tipote said:
qman said:
Tipote said:
this made me think of some people here.. :lol:



Yeah, because only white people can be bigots. :facepalm:



i dont think anyone has made that claim...:facepalm:



Really, a video based on ALL of the white people being bigots towards Muslims.



Just like you think ALL Muslims should be banned from entering the EU because of a few that may not integrate.  :shrug:


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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:lol:

yes, people really really love Muslims in the US.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Tipote said:
qman said:
Tipote said:
this made me think of some people here.. :lol:



Yeah, because only white people can be bigots. :facepalm:



i dont think anyone has made that claim...:facepalm:



Really, a video based on ALL of the white people being bigots towards Muslims.



Just like you think ALL Muslims should be banned from entering the EU because of a few that may not integrate.  :shrug:



"a few"  Happens to be millions.

Also, the economic conditions in the EU do not permit any immigration at this point in time, it doesn't matter if they're Muslim.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 2
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qman said:
"a few"  Happens to be millions.



Dude, take some Islamophobin.


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
"a few"  Happens to be millions.



Dude, take some Islamophobin.



Qman won't address my post -- it's too in his face.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
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akira_akuma said:
i know, i know, no one ever disagreed with you there, big guy.

but the vetting process, that's where you're conniption stems from, right? that's what you're miffed at.

LET the right RISE. WHO CARES? the vetting process sucked. yeah -- would it have been better under a different regime, MAYBE. or maybe not. or maybe the Geneva convention would never have been signed, but WHO KNOWS because we CAN NEVER KNOW because it's the past and it's TOO LATE.

so what the fuck, why don't you start trying to not repeat yourself over and over on subjects...let's talk about the REALITY of things.

the right is on the rise in Europe. true story. watch it unfold.

personally, you know, it's a fact that there is barely no one going over the border from Mexico now, right?

you realize that the last time when Reagan tried to build the wall, they flubbed it, right? you realize the wall is probably the only good idea that's come out of anyone's mouth this election, (save the socialist, funnily enough) right? go for it...but no one is even crossing the border...what a waste of fucking money...causing economic disparity in Mexico by making them pay for it (and why Mexico's gangs don't just do a coup and then commit war on America, we'll never know, because why the fuck would any leader be such a pussy as to just build someone else's fucking wall?)...the only thing you have on your goddamn agenda, other than outing SJWs (hopefully, it's like you know, pretty easy, so you might as well) and Flawed-Feminists (same), you just wanna out the cultural Blacks (culture of diss, accurately titled) of inner cities and mainstream idiot culture (a different motif in white circles, so i guess we might as well not but just touch on this subtle connection, yes, white people can be just as astounding, if they are mainstream unthinking retards), and of course, out the illegal immigrants because them illegal Central Americans keep taking your jerbs, when just like every other thing that every other person makes a stink about (other than corporate corruption of course! both literally and figuratively!), it's only a tiny blip on the fucking radar of fucking problems in your country. :shrug:



Hmm, the migrant crisis in the EU isn't a "tiny blip on the fucking radar" and the 20-30 million illegals in the US isn't either.

Both the US and EU have major problems with wages and employment, flooding those economies with millions of people willing to work for cheap labor destroys the native working class!

Not the mention the high costs of hosting these third world people, both the US and EU can NOT afford to support them, this is economics 101.

Why do you think Trump and the far-right in the EU are on the rise?  People know it's a big problem and they want a major change, and guess what?  It's coming!!

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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Quote:
Hmm, the migrant crisis in the EU isn't a "tiny blip on the fucking radar" and the 20-30 million illegals in the US isn't either.



i was fucking talking about the mexicans. the fucking whole paragraph is about MEXICANS.

continue.

Quote:
Why do you think Trump and the far-right in the EU are on the rise?  People know it's a big problem and they want a major change, and guess what?  It's coming!!



Jesus fucking christ, i know, i just SAID "WATCH IT UNFOLD".

do you not see words unless they're given to you in a format like it's all coming now, don't you see, WHY DO YOU THINK? it's happening!!! because it's happening, can't you see, and why do you think that is?! because migrants, it's happening!!!!

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 2
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qman said:
Tipote said:
qman said:
Tipote said:
this made me think of some people here.. :lol:



Yeah, because only white people can be bigots. :facepalm:



i dont think anyone has made that claim...:facepalm:



Really, a video based on ALL of the white people being bigots towards Muslims.

A video which tries to illustrate that white people are the problem when it comes to Arab and white culture relations.

It's beyond pathetic Tip, please come up with something a little better than that nonsense. Stuff like that only makes Trump and the far-right even stronger.



What did you watch?

I saw a video addressing people who are bigots (with comments such as "ask your doctor if this could work for you", insinuating that it's only a good idea if you actually are a bigot), not a video assuming all white people are bigots... Where in the video is "ALL" whites addressed?

You hear something about a Muslim, and you think "huh, this is description of Muslims". (and you believe it)
You hear something about a white guy, and you think "huh, this is description of white people". (and you think it's retarded to claim all white people are the same).

Maybe nothing of what you observer were descriptions of groups but rather descriptions of individuals?

And maybe you are reading to much into things, again...
...creating an opponent that fits your arguments instead of listing to what people actually are saying...
...maybe...

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian] * 1
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"creating an opponent"

You mean like the video did?  ALL the white people in the video were portrayed as bigots, ALL the Muslims in the video were portrayed as victims.

This is called propaganda and anyone with a ten cent brain can figure that one out, Tip should be thoroughly embarrassed to post such a biased script, but somehow I know he isn't.

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