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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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Bubbles85 said:
Malkuthian said:
Bubbles85 said:
Its disgusting the way the mainstream media in Europe has reported this crisis. Right from the start making out that most are elderly, frail, young children and women.



I don't know what worthless media you are listening to, I have been aware that most are males since the start, and I haven't seen any of that "oh the poor women and children"-media coverage you are talking about (again).



Yeah so? I've been aware of the same facts. My point is, that the majority of the general public still reply on biased horse shit like the BBC for their info on this kind of stuff and i can guarantee that non of those statistics are ever revealed to the wider population by these corporations (at least here in the UK)

Stick that shit on the BBC news at 6pm tonight and see what happens regarding the majority of the British public's opinions on this shit fest. Non would accept it, that i can guarantee. The wider public needs to know the fucking truth.



Yes the BBC can be very biased especially in recent years, BUT it is still a first class media organisation that is not as restricted as you pretend. This stuff IS on the BBC. A 5 second search would reveal that.

Why does Sweden have more boys than girls?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03gzh7x


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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Bubbles85 said:
Tipote said:
Why do you have to see any mention of there being women and children as a ploy by the media to pull on the heart strings?



Tipote said:
Thats not to say they aren't doing that



You just answered your own question. Its biased horse shit. Media propoganda, spewed out daily to the masses, to distort public opinion.



no.. th e poinit is that media are all like that anyway but its also just normal to emphasise the most vulnerable affected. It doesnt mean that showing footage of women an, children and elderly shows a political bias.

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Show them the truth. Report this on the 6 o'clock news tonight.



i don't have that power but the information is already in the mainstream public


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian] * 1
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Malkuthian said:
God fucking damn your stupid.

I have personally met quite a few refugees that have fled to survive...
And I have friends working helping refugees in Jordan.
I know for a fact there are shitloads of people fleeing to survive.
Is this propaganda? How can you seriously not understand that we are saving lives by helping refugees?

How come you think that's not the case? How did you get such information?
Some nice trustworthy websites perhaps?



http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/15/un-director-admits-syrians-not-fleeing-war-gulf-countries-havent-taken-single-one/

Mr.Moller (Director General of UN)- "The number one reason why people leave Syria is NOT bombs or the food or the cold, it's because the want to find educational opportunities for their children"

Bottom line, the VAST majority are nothing more than economic "refugees" not fleeing anything but a shitty third world lifestyle.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
These fighting age male "refugees" need to fucking stay home and get fighting.



so you support the continuation of fighting? How do you propose that will be funded, armed and organised? Resources can only maintain certain numbers of fighters.

PLUS many Syrians are not siding either with the government or the rebel groups!! They want no part of it but they are bombed regardless.

Again we keep going around it circles, I think I've seen you say this repeatedly.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Malkuthian said:
God fucking damn your stupid.

I have personally met quite a few refugees that have fled to survive...
And I have friends working helping refugees in Jordan.
I know for a fact there are shitloads of people fleeing to survive.
Is this propaganda? How can you seriously not understand that we are saving lives by helping refugees?

How come you think that's not the case? How did you get such information?
Some nice trustworthy websites perhaps?



http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/15/un-director-admits-syrians-not-fleeing-war-gulf-countries-havent-taken-single-one/

Mr.Moller (Director General of UN)- "The number one reason why people leave Syria is NOT bombs or the food or the cold, it's because the want to find educational opportunities for their children"

Bottom line, the VAST majority are nothing more than economic "refugees" not fleeing anything but a shitty third world lifestyle.



without the statistics in front of us, we can't see exactly what he means by that statement.

Does it mean that people in the stable areas who are not being bombed are chosing to leave for educational opportunities for their children? Partly, yes.
Does it mean that people have stayed despite the bombs (including those that have been under bombs and not) but that it was their childrens education and future that made them decide to leave? Yes
Does it mean everything is fine for these people but they just want to send their kid to a nicer school and abandon their homeland in the process? I'm sure its far from the only reason, just a very high priority - their kids. who'd've thought it?!

Its a signal of what Syrians think about the future of Syria. Many thought they could ride it out within Syria and not give up their land. Now it has sunk in that their country is only getting worse. They might not ALL be in a war zone now but that doesn't mean they won't be.

All Moller did was to add nuance. the line between economic migrant and refugee is blurred at times. You can be both and some factors might play more of a role.

Btw he is only director general of the UN Geneva Office. Ban Ki-moon is the head of the UN and has called on countries to do more.

You cherry-pick, you ignore the other points he made in that huffington post article but take the one tid-bit and wave it about like it shows the policy is fully wrong. He himself supports the policy.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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Bubbles85 said:
This is the UK mate, not Sweden. A nation of fucking effeminate males.



wtf is wrong with you? are you really actually 12 years old? Why so very unnecessarily dickish, Bubbles?
Are you a super masculine alpha, Bubbles?! :lmafo:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
Some are refugees fleeing persecution.  Some are economic opportunists.



Wow we got there somehow.:crazy2:

:innocentjoy:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
zappaisgod said:
These fighting age male "refugees" need to fucking stay home and get fighting.



so you support the continuation of fighting? How do you propose that will be funded, armed and organised? Resources can only maintain certain numbers of fighters.

PLUS many Syrians are not siding either with the government or the rebel groups!! They want no part of it but they are bombed regardless.

Again we keep going around it circles, I think I've seen you say this repeatedly.



It will go on forever until somebody wins decisively.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote] * 1
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Tipote said:
Bubbles85 said:
This is the UK mate, not Sweden. A nation of fucking effeminate males.



wtf is wrong with you? are you really actually 12 years old? Why so very unnecessarily dickish, Bubbles?




Maybe he's a progressive leftist?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
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hostileuniverse said:
Tipote said:
Bubbles85 said:
This is the UK mate, not Sweden. A nation of fucking effeminate males.



wtf is wrong with you? are you really actually 12 years old? Why so very unnecessarily dickish, Bubbles?




Maybe he's a progressive leftist?



No.  The Swedish weenies are.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote] * 2
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Tipote said:
qman said:
Malkuthian said:
God fucking damn your stupid.

I have personally met quite a few refugees that have fled to survive...
And I have friends working helping refugees in Jordan.
I know for a fact there are shitloads of people fleeing to survive.
Is this propaganda? How can you seriously not understand that we are saving lives by helping refugees?

How come you think that's not the case? How did you get such information?
Some nice trustworthy websites perhaps?



http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/15/un-director-admits-syrians-not-fleeing-war-gulf-countries-havent-taken-single-one/

Mr.Moller (Director General of UN)- "The number one reason why people leave Syria is NOT bombs or the food or the cold, it's because the want to find educational opportunities for their children"

Bottom line, the VAST majority are nothing more than economic "refugees" not fleeing anything but a shitty third world lifestyle.



without the statistics in front of us, we can't see exactly what he means by that statement.

Does it mean that people in the stable areas who are not being bombed are chosing to leave for educational opportunities for their children? Partly, yes.
Does it mean that people have stayed despite the bombs (including those that have been under bombs and not) but that it was their childrens education and future that made them decide to leave? Yes
Does it mean everything is fine for these people but they just want to send their kid to a nicer school and abandon their homeland in the process? I'm sure its far from the only reason, just a very high priority - their kids. who'd've thought it?!

Its a signal of what Syrians think about the future of Syria. Many thought they could ride it out within Syria and not give up their land. Now it has sunk in that their country is only getting worse. They might not ALL be in a war zone now but that doesn't mean they won't be.

All Moller did was to add nuance. the line between economic migrant and refugee is blurred at times. You can be both and some factors might play more of a role.

Btw he is only director general of the UN Geneva Office. Ban Ki-moon is the head of the UN and has called on countries to do more.

You cherry-pick, you ignore the other points he made in that huffington post article but take the one tid-bit and wave it about like it shows the policy is fully wrong. He himself supports the policy.



"He himself supports the policy"

Of course he does, he's a UN bureaucrat. Once in a while he fucks up and actually admits the truth. :rofl2:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote] * 1
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Tipote said:
Bubbles85 said:
This is the UK mate, not Sweden. A nation of fucking effeminate males.



wtf is wrong with you? are you really actually 12 years old? Why so very unnecessarily dickish, Bubbles?
Are you a super masculine alpha, Bubbles?! :lmafo:



Ain't gotta be no "super masculine alpha" to be man enough to stand up to this BS. Swedish men seem to be willfully engaged in the destruction of their own country. Flooding the place with young able bodied Muslim men. Fucking idiots.

It's become frowned upon for men to be fucking men. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.

Edited by Bubbles85 (05/20/16 04:06 PM)

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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On a relevant note to the topic of the thread. The EDL are marching through my home town tomorrow ..

English Defence League march in Coventry

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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Bubbles85 said:
Tipote said:
Bubbles85 said:
This is the UK mate, not Sweden. A nation of fucking effeminate males.



wtf is wrong with you? are you really actually 12 years old? Why so very unnecessarily dickish, Bubbles?
Are you a super masculine alpha, Bubbles?! :lmafo:



Ain't gotta be no "super masculine alpha" to be man enough to stand up to this BS. Swedish men seem to be willfully engaged in the destruction of their own country. Flooding the place with young able bodied Muslim men. Fucking idiots.

It's become frowned upon for men to be fucking men. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.



speaking of pathetic, is your argument seriously that Swedish men are "willfully engaged in the destruction of their own country"??? Or is it as i said - youre being unnecessarily rude and stupid to someone because they disagree with you?

:facepalm3:
:jokerclap:

come on, Bubbles!


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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qman said:
"He himself supports the policy"

Of course he does, he's a UN bureaucrat. Once in a while he fucks up and actually admits the truth. :rofl2:



this thread..:smbfacepalm:

you honestly think the statement he made was a slip up? You are struggling with this one, qman. Are you saying his other statements are all incorrect?
you are a cherry-picker extraordinaire m. qman.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85] * 2
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Interesting how a British "man" finds it valid to degrade men for not being real men, based on nationality.
...Considering the British invented them fuckin' hipsters...

Not to mention tea and biscuits as some gay-ish substitute for coffee and a smoke. :laugh:

Shall we continue in this fashion?

Edited by Malkuthian (05/20/16 04:56 PM)

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
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Coffee and a smoke :lol: shit brah. Better not fuck with you.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
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Malkuthian said:
Interesting how a British "man" finds it valid to degrade men for not being real men, based on nationality.
...Considering the British invented them fuckin' hipsters...

Not to mention tea and biscuits as some gay-ish substitute for coffee and a smoke. :laugh:

Shall we continue in this fashion?



:lol:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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the first people to publicly come out of the closet were Englishmen. :themoreyouknow:

so you know, maybe Bubbles has a point...you just gotta look really hard.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85] * 2
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Bubbles85 said:
Coffee and a smoke :lol: shit brah. Better not fuck with you.



Did you seriously not understand the point and thought we were having a battle on who's the coolest?
I was simply making fun of your "men of your nationality is more feminine than men of my nationality"-mentality...

Why are all self proclaimed men on the internetz acting like frat boys?

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