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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter]
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The planet is vastly over populated and pest management is required.




let's say a particular Muslim migrant, who is part of a mass migration of those whom the majority are not eligible to become citizens (a "pestilence"), wants to find opportunity in a secular nation to avoid being under threat in an Islamic nation, and said migrant was not only eligible but has considerable credentials; would said migrant be a pest, given his opportunity to become a citizen, if there wasn't a mass migration occurring, but a small contingent of migrants, that would pose no threat to the economy?

simple hypothetical.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: MightyWhite]
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Whats your stance on bolshevism ?

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: MightyWhite] * 1
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Also, amnesty.org is a NGO funded by Soros. Those fancy charts are pure propaganda http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1237

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: MightyWhite]
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they aren't biased in anyway at all.



interesting site though. :yesnod: for a J00.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: MightyWhite]
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MightyWhite said:
It's Jewish propaganda, anyway you slice it. I posted the link who the founder to amnesty.org was, learn some facts. Jews are the biggest advocates of immigration, but yet Israel hasn't taken one single refugee. -Your own words " Jews hate amnesty"- but amnesty.org is founded by a Jew lol
What would the agenda be? Oh, I don't know, maybe if you think about it long enough, you might have an answer lol



those weren't my own words actually.

I know Israel hasn't taken a single refugee.

Who cares if the founder was Jewish? What does that prove?

Why don't you humour me and tell me what you think the agenda is?

MightyWhite said:
You get a nice check from Soros, tipote?



you've rumbled me. how did you guess?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
Who cares if the founder was Jewish? What does that prove?

Why don't you humour me and tell me what you think the agenda is?



For someone who thinks they're so smart, you display an incredible amount of ignorance :sploosh:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: MightyWhite] * 1
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:laugh2: just the arrogance in that statement.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: MightyWhite] * 1
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MightyWhite said:
Tipote said:
Who cares if the founder was Jewish? What does that prove?

Why don't you humour me and tell me what you think the agenda is?



For someone who thinks they're so smart, you display an incredible amount of ignorance :sploosh:



and for someone who tries to imply they are smart, you haven't shown it yet.:crazy2:

I'm asking for you to elaborate on claims that YOU are making :shrug: and you seem to struggle to do that.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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and if the survey was - "will you accept illegal immigrants pouring into your country?", the answer will be a vast majority saying NO. OBVIOUSLY.
If they are not genuine refugees, they can be deported!!



That’s your spin at the end of this huge thread because you’ve had your ass handed to you no end over the idiocy of shilling mass immigration. So if we roll back to your view on page 1 of this thread we see:

"people are not sick of muslim immigrants in Europe"

But the people are because they make up most of the illegal immigrants. Checkmate for a 180 about turn.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter]
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Tip, instead of polling people on theoretical issues, let's ask people after the fact and see what they say on third world immigration.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/630456/EU-migrant-crisis-shock-poll-two-thirds-Germans-expect-ISIS-terrorist-attack

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/06/poll-four-fifths-germans-want-return-border-controls/

http://www.euractiv.com/section/justice-home-affairs/news/poll-majority-of-germans-reject-immigration-from-outside-the-eu/

"only 29% of Germans have a positive opinion of immigration from third world countries...from Italy (75%) opposition"

Edited by qman (05/19/16 01:31 PM)

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
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akira_akuma said:
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The planet is vastly over populated and pest management is required.




let's say a particular Muslim migrant, who is part of a mass migration of those whom the majority are not eligible to become citizens (a "pestilence"), wants to find opportunity in a secular nation to avoid being under threat in an Islamic nation, and said migrant was not only eligible but has considerable credentials; would said migrant be a pest, given his opportunity to become a citizen, if there wasn't a mass migration occurring, but a small contingent of migrants, that would pose no threat to the economy?




Sure, if you bring in a few hundred or maybe a 1,000 genuine refugees, that wouldn't really pose any economic threat, but when you flood over a million it's a social and economic shitfest.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/18/middleeast/egyptair-flight-disappears/

I'm sure this is going to make EU citizens even more comfortable with Muslims living in their homelands. :huxleyfacepalm:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Tip, instead of polling people on theoretical issues, let's ask people after the fact and see what they say on third world immigration.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/630456/EU-migrant-crisis-shock-poll-two-thirds-Germans-expect-ISIS-terrorist-attack

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/06/poll-four-fifths-germans-want-return-border-controls/

http://www.euractiv.com/section/justice-home-affairs/news/poll-majority-of-germans-reject-immigration-from-outside-the-eu/

"only 29% of Germans have a positive opinion of immigration from third world countries...from Italy (75%)"



Now that is a SHOCKING statistic, if you'd ask folks around here, all we gotta do is flood our countries with third world immigrants and watch all the many wonderful things happen!


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter]
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Starter said:
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and if the survey was - "will you accept illegal immigrants pouring into your country?", the answer will be a vast majority saying NO. OBVIOUSLY.
If they are not genuine refugees, they can be deported!!



That’s your spin at the end of this huge thread because you’ve had your ass handed to you no end over the idiocy of shilling mass immigration. So if we roll back to your view on page 1 of this thread we see:
"people are not sick of muslim immigrants in Europe"
But the people are because they make up most of the illegal immigrants. Checkmate for a 180 about turn.



sigh.. is that the best you can do? taking a part of a sentence from a post without context. I also was talking about the FN in that post who clearly don't like immigrants and muslim immigrants so clearly I wasn't meaning that no one had problems with muslims, or immigrants. It was a generalisation because obviously "people" don't all think one thing! if you read more than one snippet from a post,  you might have understood that I wasn't saying that no one had a problem with immigrants or muslims.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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They are so welcoming they are about to elect a right-wing president in Austria.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-3598590/Presidency-reach-Austrias-far-right-Freedom-Party.html

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his most important political project is to secure borders.





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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Tip, instead of polling people on theoretical issues, let's ask people after the fact and see what they say on third world immigration.



The statistics I provided were about REFUGEES not third world immigration in general. Also I mentioned in the post too that I have seen different numbers on this from what I posted as well.

I am not surprised if generally people are against immigration (especially from outside the EU) considering the current climate and the previous immigration policies.

qman said:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/630456/EU-migrant-crisis-shock-poll-two-thirds-Germans-expect-ISIS-terrorist-attack




Well the Daesh terror attacks have not had anything to do with refugees but I know that won't stop people making the link in their heads regardless.

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qman said:http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/06/poll-four-fifths-germans-want-return-border-controls/



generally i take brietbart with a fistful of salt considering its past incorrect statistics. I would feel better about the validity if it had a valid link to the actual numbers.

reinstating border controls does not mean deny all refugees, it means control of the process. that seems reasonable.

"A significant 90 per cent of Germans believe there should be a limit on the number of ‘refugees’ the nation should take a year,"
this also seems reasonable to have quotas of numbers per year that can be dealt with. 

Breitbart also made this point which i'm sure you would disagree with..
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Despite the negativity expressed towards refugees and immigration, The Local reports 58 per cent of those surveyed believe migrants are needed in a German labour market struggling with skilled labour shortages. This outweighs the 39 per cent believing that the number of refugees arriving is so large as to threaten Germany’s prosperity. here



so we can see that polling, just as democracy, has a lot of dependence on an informed population.

you link also said this-
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Despite the split emerging between the two parties supporting Merkel’s government, the ideologically similar Christian Democratic and Christian Socialist Unions, they remain the most popular in the nation, trailing the Social Democrats by 15-points.



though I'm sure its got worse since October.

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qman said:http://www.euractiv.com/section/justice-home-affairs/news/poll-majority-of-germans-reject-immigration-from-outside-the-eu/

"only 29% of Germans have a positive opinion of immigration from third world countries...from Italy (75%)"



conflating refugee influxes, economic migration from third world countries and illegal immigration isn't giving a clear statistic.

But i'm sure we can safely say that, as we already knew, it is a controversial issue. There is huge support and huge hostility for accepting refugees.

from your link
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“The issue of migration has become more controversial and has reached the mainstream of society,” said Richard Kühnel, representative of the European Commission in Germany. Better integration of immigrants from third countries is a shared task, he explained. Protection of refugees, who come to the EU via the Mediterranean, must also be improved, Kühnel indicated.




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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said:
qman said:
Tip, instead of polling people on theoretical issues, let's ask people after the fact and see what they say on third world immigration.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/630456/EU-migrant-crisis-shock-poll-two-thirds-Germans-expect-ISIS-terrorist-attack

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/06/poll-four-fifths-germans-want-return-border-controls/

http://www.euractiv.com/section/justice-home-affairs/news/poll-majority-of-germans-reject-immigration-from-outside-the-eu/

"only 29% of Germans have a positive opinion of immigration from third world countries...from Italy (75%)"



Now that is a SHOCKING statistic, if you'd ask folks around here, all we gotta do is flood our countries with third world immigrants and watch all the many wonderful things happen!



no one on this thread has said that, your royal strawiness


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
hostileuniverse said:
qman said:
Tip, instead of polling people on theoretical issues, let's ask people after the fact and see what they say on third world immigration.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/630456/EU-migrant-crisis-shock-poll-two-thirds-Germans-expect-ISIS-terrorist-attack

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/06/poll-four-fifths-germans-want-return-border-controls/

http://www.euractiv.com/section/justice-home-affairs/news/poll-majority-of-germans-reject-immigration-from-outside-the-eu/

"only 29% of Germans have a positive opinion of immigration from third world countries...from Italy (75%)"



Now that is a SHOCKING statistic, if you'd ask folks around here, all we gotta do is flood our countries with third world immigrants and watch all the many wonderful things happen!



no one on this thread has said that, your royal strawiness




oh look, a LIAR!


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: hostileuniverse]
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"terror attacks has nothing to do with refugees"

They are both Muslims and if you hadn't noticed the top government intelligence agencies said that ISIS members have used this free for all to come into the EU to cause further terrorist acts.

"There is huge support...for accepting refugees"

Sure, people support this theoretical good cause until the reality of this policy comes into fruition. German citizens supported it before the realization that their homelands were turning into chaos and there is no future for these third world leeches.

You have to understand there's a huge difference between checking a box on a written survey and then trying to live with third world people. Those polls are beyond childish in nature.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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here are some of the other stats i've found..

before and after paris attacks






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Germany has taken the vast majority of refugees so far, with numbers potentially reaching one million by the end of the year. YouGov polling in Germany has found that 63% of Germans say Britain should be following it's example, however 28% of Germans would rather their country had our approach.

Earlier this week, following reports of matchmaking schemes for citizens willing to share their homes with refugees, we found that 11% of British people said they would take a Syrian refugee into their home for six months. Now the results from Germany are in, revealing that 21% of Germans say they would house a Syrian refugee.





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Thousands of ordinary Germans have volunteered to help the refugees now arriving daily. Some have filled up their cars with shopping, and distributed clothes, nappies, food and cuddly bears. Others have offered German lessons, translation and babysitting. Martin Patzelt, an MP from Merkel’s CDU party, has housed two refugees from Eritrea. They are now living with him temporarily at his home in Brandenburg.

In particular, women have offered to help – 70% of those offering services to refugees are female, according to a recent survey. The response has sometimes been overwhelming. A Berlin-based group, Refugees Welcome, which matches refugees with people willing to give them a room, has been flooded with offers. More than 780 Germans have signed up. On Tuesday police at Munich station tweeted the public to stop bringing donations, saying that they had been inundated.

In Britain, the refugee crisis has been less acute. There are signs here too, however, of ordinary citizens wanting to contribute. A pro-refugee rally in central London is planned for 12 September, just before the Brussels summit. The organisers said it is vital that May “takes with her the conviction that the British people that she represents are open to helping refugees.” They added: “We can’t continue to allow thousands to die trying to reach the EU and their legal right to claim asylum.”  from here - http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/02/refugees-welcome-uk-germany-compare-migration



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If Germany has accepted disproportionately more asylum seekers than Britain, it has also seen a much higher number of violent incidents directed at asylum seekers. By the end of last week, the German interior ministry had recorded 336 assaults on refugee shelters since the start of the year – over a 100 more than in the whole of 2014. The majority of these attacks had a rightwing motive.

In Britain, the Home Office does not publish comparable statistics. The UK charity Refugee Action said it was anecdotally aware of isolated assaults on individuals, and no arson attacks. Unlike in Germany, where refugees have often been sheltered in schools, gyms or hotels, asylum seekers in Britain are usually housed in mixed accommodation, which is less easily identifiable.

A large number of attacks in Germany have taken place in the former east: in 2014, 47% of racist assaults were recorded in the five regions that once made up the GDR, even though only 16% of asylum seekers have been allocated to the so-called Neue Länder. Merkel has refused to point the finger at specific regions, saying: “I don’t want to turn this into an east-west conflict.”



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Germany has unilaterally lifted the Dublin protocol. It says the regulation clearly isn’t working, as tens of thousands of refugees head north through the western Balkans towards Austria and Germany. Britain also believes that the convention is now effectively inoperable. If everyone who entered the EU through Italy or Hungary was sent back to those countries, they would be unable to cope.



British public among least welcoming in Europe towards refugees, according to survey



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A majority of people in the 14 nations (57 per cent) believe the European Union should do more to tackle the refugee crisis. In Britain, some 40 per cent want the EU to do more, 33 per cent say its response is about right and 27 per cent want it to do less.

But many people across Europe seem reluctant to see their own governments take more action to resolve the crisis. Only 30 per cent want their own nation to do more, 40 per cent say its response is about right and 29 per cent want it to do less. In the UK, only 28 per cent want the country to do more, while 32 per cent say it should be doing less.

Across Europe, 59 per cent of those polled believe economic migrants are a burden because they take people’s jobs and increase pressure on public services, while 41 per cent think they strengthen their country through hard work. In Britain, the figures are 64 per cent and 36 per cent respectively.




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