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Mafia bosses have 'declared war' against migrants on the holiday paradise of Sicily as one thousand new arrivals pour on to the island every week.

The feared Cosa Nostra are desperate to maintain supremacy after African crime gangs arrived with the migrants - and they are engaged in a deadly turf war.

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Tipote said:

qman said:

"a global effort needs to be made to eliminate poverty"

Again, more classroom rhetoric. The effort starts locally, NOT globally. 

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why can't it be both?

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"Richer states have the luxury of not having as many kids"

Yeah, it's a luxury to responsibly only have the number of children that you can afford.

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You think the difference between the parents of richer and poorer countries is that people of poor countries lack responsibility??

Yup the deeply engrained prejudice is clear to see!

MAYBE there are a few other factors involved.. like the lack of education, healthcare services, catholicism, etc. Also even the lack of wealth itself means people feel like they need to have children in order to survive the longer term as a family unit. If they waited until they could afford kids, they would not have kids and their populations would vanish..perhaps you'd prefer that. Sometimes children are a means to increase the wealth of the family.  Higher infant mortality rates sometimes mean having many kids in order to end up with some that are alive. Tradition and culture come into play too.. but by tackling poverty there is huge capacity for change in all these areas.

In the West, women tend to have babies later because they are more concerned about education and career. Abortion and contraception make a big difference. Education to understand even the basics of the reproductive cycle, issues around STIs etc also help the richer states when it comes to population control. 

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Is there a shitty behavior from some people that you will NOT defend? 

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Is having children a shitty behaviour??

How can the uneducated who have children understand the global trends of population growth and its impact on the environment and society??

There are multiple reasons why people have kids. Reducing it to third world people don't take responsibility is idiotic!

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"Is having children a shitty behavior?"

If you can't afford to take of them, yet it is, take a look at inner cities inside of the US, it's a perfect example.

"How can the uneducated who have children understand...its impact"

Wow, you think they're even stupider than I do, talk about a condescending attitude towards the third world. All they have to do is look around them and see that having children they can't afford brings a lot of poverty and suffering, even the blind can see that reality.

"Reducing it to third world people don't take responsibility is idiotic"

So who's responsibility is it?  Let me guess, the whole globe.

Bubbles85 said:

Sicilian mafia declared 'war on migrants' after immigration levels soared

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Mafia bosses have 'declared war' against migrants on the holiday paradise of Sicily as one thousand new arrivals pour on to the island every week.

The feared Cosa Nostra are desperate to maintain supremacy after African crime gangs arrived with the migrants - and they are engaged in a deadly turf war.

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Italian Mafia declares war on Muslim migrants, Gambian migrant gets shot dead in the streets

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Fuck, the Nazi's and now the Italian Mafia are pissed off, if I was a migrant I would run back to my homeland.

Tipote said:

zappaisgod said:

You're fucking delusional.  The only way to get them to stop is to beat the living shit out of the enemy until he submits completely.  See Japan.  See Germany.

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Japan already gave up officially before being bombed the fuck out of.

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In my opinion it is immoral to allow any Muslim clerics to run a country if simply for the way women are enslaved.

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What the fuck are you talking about?

if youre referring to Saudi Arabia, they shouldnt be Western allies - i agree. The West supports those extremists and shouldnt.

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Bubbles85 said:

England Bans Its Own Flag to Avoid Offending Muslims

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Rizwan Ahmed, spokesman for the Bristol Muslim Cultural Society, said: ‘To say that  Muslims are offended I don’t think is correct.

‘We understand the flag is part of this country’s heritage, and in fact many Muslims  identify as being British.’
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Muslim Council of Britain spokesman Nasima Begum said her group encouraged the flying of the St George’s flag.

She said: ‘St George needs to take his rightful place as a national symbol of inclusivity rather than a symbol of hatred.

'St George actually lived before the birth of Islam and should not be associated with any hatred of Muslims.’

And Rizwan Ahmed added: ‘It is political correctness going a bit too far.

'Use by the far right is one thing, but to say that Muslims are offended I don’t think is correct.'

‘I think if anything this will harm understanding of Muslim people, and it feeds into the ideas that some people have of “Oh, here they go again, pandering to the needs of Muslim people”, when actually it is not offensive.

‘I can see why they have done this, but it really is too far.

'They are being overly sensitive, and making assumptions about what Muslims will be offended by.

‘In actual fact we are normal people.

'We have a sense of humour and have the same concerns as everyone else - we are not just some single group.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324999/Rural-council-stops-flying-flag-St-George-claiming-offensive-Muslims-links-Crusades.html

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"At our April meeting, the council was informed that it does not have a Union Jack and a vote was taken and agreed by all to purchase one.

"The council did not vote to ban the St George's flag nor any other flag.

"The decision taken was made in line with the resources and staffing that we have as a small Town Council.

"The mechanism on the flag pole is currently broken and we are seeking to have this repaired as soon as possible. The council is proud to fly the Union Jack as part of our heritage."

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Bubbles85 said:

Sicilian mafia declared 'war on migrants' after immigration levels soared

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Mafia bosses have 'declared war' against migrants on the holiday paradise of Sicily as one thousand new arrivals pour on to the island every week.

The feared Cosa Nostra are desperate to maintain supremacy after African crime gangs arrived with the migrants - and they are engaged in a deadly turf war.

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Italian Mafia declares war on Muslim migrants, Gambian migrant gets shot dead in the streets

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Fuck, the Nazi's and now the Italian Mafia are pissed off, if I was a migrant I would run back to my homeland.

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Shits gonna very messy from the looks of things, not just in Italy, but right across the continent.

Tipote said:

Bubbles85 said:

England Bans Its Own Flag to Avoid Offending Muslims

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man i hate this guy with a passion. If this story is everything these right wing papers are saying then it is absolutely ridiculous, of course, for this one councillor of one small town council in rural Somerset to make this stupid decision.  (btw the story is from 3 years ago) It looks like the decision was changed fucking fast and many Muslims were also calling it fucking stupid themselves.

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qman said:

"Is having children a shitty behavior?"

If you can't afford to take of them, yet it is, take a look at inner cities inside of the US, it's a perfect example.

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"How can the uneducated who have children understand...its impact"

Wow, you think they're even stupider than I do, talk about a condescending attitude towards the third world. All they have to do is look around them and see that having children they can't afford brings a lot of poverty and suffering, even the blind can see that reality.

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No, its still you with the condescending attitude talking like Africa is one country, talking like all third worlders or muslims are the same...leeches etc

There is a difference between stupidity and a lack of education. I didn't say anyone was stupid, that was you.

Also I notice that when you quote me, you always cut chunks out. I was actually making the point that some poorly educated might not understand the GLOBAL population issues, let alone their own countries' problems. I also made many other points about contraception, healthcare, education.

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All they have to do is look around them and see that having children they can't afford brings a lot of poverty and suffering, even the blind can see that reality.

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"Reducing it to third world people don't take responsibility is idiotic"

So who's responsibility is it?  Let me guess, the whole globe.

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Bubbles85 said:

Small town? they're referring to the city of Bristol dude. This is also from last month as far as i can tell, not 3 years ago.

Anger as council officials say UK city is ‘too multicultural’ to celebrate St George’s Day

The decision was not changed, it stuck and the city held no official St Georges day celebrations to avoid offending immigrants.

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Tipote said:

Bubbles85 said:

Small town? they're referring to the city of Bristol dude. This is also from last month as far as i can tell, not 3 years ago.

Anger as council officials say UK city is ‘too multicultural’ to celebrate St George’s Day

The decision was not changed, it stuck and the city held no official St Georges day celebrations to avoid offending immigrants.

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hmmm well i apologise then because i'm confused - there must be 2 different stories. The story you said was that the flag was banned. I googled that and only found that story for Radstock in Somerset, nothing to do with Bristol. Now the link you post about Bristol says nothing about banning a flag, it just says that the council didn't do their own celebration and there is no mention of banning flags.

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yeh i've just gone back to that retarded video and he said specifically "radstock in somerset"

also another point he made..he said (at 1:00 in) "while arrested BRITS who criticise muslim immigration on twitter"

LOL this is just SUCH misinformation. It obviously brings into question the legitimacy of his other points because unless you dig into every story he mentions, you just have to take his interpretation.

I know as a fact that the guy he mentioned that was arrested for "criticising muslim integration" was actually arrested for incitement..

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Defending his comments, Mr Doyle told the Huffington Post he confronted the woman because she was wearing an Islamic headscarf.

He said: "She was wearing a flag. If I was walking down the street wearing a jacket emblazoned with a Union Jack then I would be open to some abuse."

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Following criticism by other users of Twitter, Doyle tweeted:

    — Matthew P Doyle (@MatthewDoyle31)
    March 23, 2016

    Who cares if I insulted some towelhead ?? Really.

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Bubbles85 said:

Tipote said:

If it was truly done to avoid offending immigrants, then obviously that is stupid! It doesnt even make any sense.

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Agreed and it was! This is the country we now live in. Its pathetic!

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Bubbles85 said:

England Bans Its Own Flag to Avoid Offending Muslims

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Tipote said:

Bubbles85 said:

England Bans Its Own Flag to Avoid Offending Muslims

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man i hate this guy with a passion. If this story is everything these right wing papers are saying then it is absolutely ridiculous, of course, for this one councillor of one small town council in rural Somerset to make this stupid decision.  (btw the story is from 3 years ago) It looks like the decision was changed fucking fast and many Muslims were also calling it fucking stupid themselves.

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