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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: Bubbles85]
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: WAN]
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WAN said:
night_shift said:
night_shift said:
night_shift said:
I could make a company. No problem. In order to make profit though, eventually it would boil down to people working - either for my company or for companies paying my company.


I guess your profit comes from no people working at all then? You just collect money appearing out of nowhere, nobody has to work to provide? Please do share how this can be, as I am sure many would be interested to know.


Yeah, i though it was pretty obvious from my post. that we do every thing our selves. The point was, that a company does not need employees to turn a profit, like you stated, nor to exist in the first place.



I think the most important point is that *MOST* companies need workers, in order to turn a profit.  Yes there are partnerships out there where there are no workers, however I don't think most businesses fit this mold.

So yes, if somebody says, "businesses need workers in order to make a profit", they are actually more or less correct.  Although they really probably should have added "most" in front of "businesses".


Did you not read my post above? 76% of all companys in the UK employ no one but the owner. So no, most companys do not need employees to turn a profit. The owners do every thing them selves.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: night_shift]
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night_shift said:
Bubbles85 said:
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Oh, so there are still workers? I mean, at least the owners? Who, by your own post, do work?

You can't take people out of the equation, this is my point.


No, that wasn't your point. Owner and employee, are two separate commodities.

You were arguing that a company that does not employ workers can not last. When clearly they can.

night_shift said:
A company that doesn't employ workers cannot last unless it relies on companies that do employ workers

Start your own company. Prove me wrong.



:facepalm:

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A company that doesn't employ workers cannot last unless it relies on companies that do employ workers


Try to read at least the bits you quote, ok? Thanks.


Yeah nice job clutching at straws ....

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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I run a company that does welfare consultancy.

I try and get people on the benefit and if I can, I take a cut of their income.

So far there's only one client on the books and that's me. I take 100% of my income from this client.

I still have to pay taxes for the other scrounging beneficiaries though, so the system's pretty unfair.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor]
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People that are genuinely in need of help from the welfare system, who can not work due to illness, or disability for example, i have no problem with.

However, the system has created a generation of scroungers, who quite clearly can work, but choose not to, because its easier to sit around on the dole popping out kids to get all their living expenses paid for.

Its a disgrace, when people like my self (who again i will stress, make up 76% of all company's operating in the UK) bust their ass to provide for them selves and are penalized to pay for these people ...

When people think of a company, they immediately think of the big guns. But these are in a minority compared to people like my self, who make up the majority of businesses.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85] * 2
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People on the benefit have it harder than anyone. Getting upset about scroungers while multibillion-dollar companies pay no tax in your country is just silly.

The rich have got people like you hating the wrong people. You hate other poor people - why?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor]
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viktor said:
People on the benefit have it harder than anyone.


There's a ton of family's in the UK who are out earning people who actually work for a living, simply by sitting on their fat asses claiming benefit's and having kids.

Supersize benefits family claims £50,000 in handouts every year and spend cash on designer trainers and mopeds - but mother claims it isn't enough to live on

The systems a complete joke and is paid for at the expense of people like my self, who actually help them selves, instead of expecting the state to provide for them.

I've been broke, i know what it feels like. Instead of crying like a little bitch and blaming the welfare system for not giving me enough free money, i got off my ass did some thing about it.

viktor said:
Getting upset about scroungers while multibillion-dollar companies pay no tax in your country is just silly.

The rich have got people like you hating the wrong people. You hate other poor people - why?


Your mistaking major corporation's with small private company's.
I'm no fan of major corporate organizations who pay little in tax either. But what people fail to realize, is company's like mine end up filling that void.
My company will have to pay a ridiculous amount of tax at the end of the next financial year.
The money has to come from some where and its the middle classes and the working classes who get hit the hardest to pay for it all.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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my self-delusion is breaking down! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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I'm mr create an opinion that no one has and then try to disprove it to make my self look smart. You're the delusional one.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
it's impossible. precisely.


remember when i proved that you think that everyone should be a business owner, and how that's how an accurately defined 'productive civilization' is actualized, and how that is false, and impossible?

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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akira_akuma said:
akira_akuma said:
it's impossible. precisely.


remember when i proved that you think that everyone should be a business owner, and how that's how an accurately defined 'productive civilization' is actualized, and how that is false, and impossible?


:lolsy:

Jesus Christ dude, you really are delusional ...

Bubbles85 said:
I'm mr create an opinion that no one has and then try to disprove it to make my self look smart. You're the delusional one.


This quote has never been more fitting.

Like i said, Mr Create an opinion that no one has and then try to disprove it :lol:

Please show me how exactly you "PROVED" that i think every one should own a business? This should be fun, because i know 100% that you can't and you've fabricated an opinion on what you think i believe out of your A hole ....


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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Jesus Christ dude, you really are delusional ...


funny that you can't be consistent on a worldview that you're constantly railing about like a homeless escaped mental patient at a bus stop.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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Bubbles85 said:
Frankly if they did, we'd have a lot less people scrounging from the welfare system ...


which is a problem...right?
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Yet these people who are busting their ass, are still bound by law to pay shit like corporation tax (or income tax) and VAT
Money that goes in to the pockets of lazy fucking welfare scroungers.


oh i see. so how do you fix this problem?

i know i'm posing a question here i invented...shocking! but can you answer it?

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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Like i said, you can't prove it .... Clearly. Because it's not a position I've ever taken, nor some thing I've ever stated.

So now you fixate on some other shit to try and disprove what i may, or may not say on that :lol:

It's like talking to a broken fucking record.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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who cares if you said what you've proven you seem to believe, ad verbatim? i questioned you on what you've said, and asked you to clarify your position, and you won't, because you'd have to refute your original position as having any semblance of truth, because you'd have to explain you position, which you won't do. clearly.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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Now you have, but the questions that have sparked this conversation, were not questions asked on what I'd said.
They were some fabricated nonsense, that you decided to assign a position of opinion on, on my behalf, with out me actually saying any thing on the subject. Some thing that you seem to do on a frequent basis around here.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85] * 2
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im interested in a clarification as well.

half the posts in this thread are made by you, it shouldnt be so difficult to explain where you stand...


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic]
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---herp derp--- i have political opinions...see next page.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: night_shift]
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Honey, I got news for you: you have been brainwashed. For starters, you need to drop this concept about "the west". "Third world" as well, by the way. Yes, things are a lot more complex than what I'm saying. Yes, you can point at details and say "but whatever" and pretend this is all that matters and argue about it until you're blue in the face - if you can find somebody to partner with in this useless activity.

Sure the details matter and sure they need to be addressed, but it's fucking useless to argue about details without having established a common basis. Which is why this thread is spinning in circles, by the way: there is no common basis, and there can't be as long as details are all that's being discussed. You think I have to fall for this? Ha.

If you think that a state of life that leads to people regretfully deciding to not have a third kid because they can't afford it is worth defending, you need professional help. The world as a whole, including your beloved west, has much deeper problems than some foreigners coming.


"you need to drop this concept about 'the west'. 'Third world as well."

The Western world is a real concept. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world

So is the third world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World

"deciding not having a third kid because they can't afford it"

Yes, that's exactly what responsible people in the US and EU have done and it has served them well. Again, why is the third world still struggling with population issues?

"has deeper problems than some foreigners coming"

Actually not, the invasion of the EU is a major CRISIS for everyone involved, why are you denying the obvious?  Muslims and African's flooding into the EU has caused major problems for the native population, that's why this nonsense is coming to an end. No one wants their homelands destroyed by a bunch of third world people.

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