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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: airclay]
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I don't believe a word you say and you definitely didn't fight with anyone. You remind me of a cur dog that acts tough and mean when it's tied to a chain, but let that dog of the chain and it won't bite anything.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
viktor said:
Explain how Sweden, most heavily affected by the swarm of refugees, "massively contributed to" the crisis.


Sweden is one of the smallest contributors, absolutely. I think they only had 1000 troops in Afghanistan. They've done some good things in terms of helping the Kurds and focusing generally in the region on humanitarian rather than military aid.

Generally they are pretty good - the Scandinavian countries in general are pretty responsive and understanding of obligations to humanity. A point well made - not all European countries are the same!

But these wars are led by the US and Europe follows suit - some countries contribute more than others. The US pushed for the illegal Iraq war, it wasn't Greece but sometimes the people responsible and those that actually get the consequences are not the same.

There is clear evidence that the US saw the rise of Daesh and in declassified documents they say that it is was and is to their advantage.


You just dodged the question.

Why has Sweden suffered the hardest from the refugee invasion when they did nothing at all to cause it?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor] * 2
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an American recently shot someone in Canada...instead of sending him to jail, we're deporting all Americans, and sending him to prison.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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MightyWhite said:
I don't believe a word you say and you definitely didn't fight with anyone. You remind me of a cur dog that acts tough and mean when it's tied to a chain, but let that dog of the chain and it won't bite anything.



It matters not what your opinion of me is but, if you want to continue to pursue it you can pm me and I'll provide you with info on where to find me in dallas or you can come check out Power Trip at any show in your area and if I'm not touring with them then ask for Hood, john, nick or riley and they'll handle any of your complaints as well. ( https://powertriptx.bandcamp.com/ )

qman said:
Air believes in violence to solve disagreements in ideology, I'm not sure his moral compass is pointing in the correct direction.




well that's a strawman, I believe in using force to protect things I've helped build from those forcefully or violently disrupting it. there's a whole idea out there about a self policing scene that won't call the cops. either way you're still missing the point which was there are people on every side of everything that will stand their ground. your stereotyping view is far from being rooted in reality.


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Give no fucks, take no orders, smash the prisons and the borders. Circle that A motherfucker!

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
an American recently shot someone in Canada...instead of sending him to jail, we're deporting all Americans, and sending him to prison.



sounds like immigrants are responsible for your murder rate huh? deporting folks is the obvious next step to lowering homicides right?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: airclay]
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airclay said:
qman said:
Air believes in violence to solve disagreements in ideology, I'm not sure his moral compass is pointing in the correct direction.




well that's a strawman, I believe in using force to protect things I've helped build from those forcefully or violently disrupting it. there's a whole idea out there about a self policing scene that won't call the cops.


vigilantism

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: airclay] * 1
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airclay said:
akira_akuma said:
an American recently shot someone in Canada...instead of sending him to jail, we're deporting all Americans, and sending him to prison.



sounds like immigrants are responsible for your murder rate huh? deporting folks is the obvious next step to lowering homicides right?


obviously. then, for the subalterns, it's all dandy with the new status quo, and we'd obviously take care of ourselves much better -- just gotta not do so much news -- we should cut that too, come to think of it. oh and let's bring back female circumcision while we're at it.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: WAN]
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WAN said:
airclay said:
qman said:
Air believes in violence to solve disagreements in ideology, I'm not sure his moral compass is pointing in the correct direction.




well that's a strawman, I believe in using force to protect things I've helped build from those forcefully or violently disrupting it. there's a whole idea out there about a self policing scene that won't call the cops.


vigilantism


you were surely praising the Oregon Occupy movement, saddled so easily too...but you don't REALLY know what you're praising.

also there is nothing wrong with being a watchman for the community; if someone is going to be hurt and force is the only answer to prevent that, you'd have to be a weasel not to help someone struggling against a would-be attacker. you prevent that shit in a community. and if someone has a gun, and is waving it around threatening people...there's a case that can be made there that the guy should be neutralized.

but what the fuck do you know.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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Taking (criminal) matters into one's own hands is a very big no-no indeed.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: WAN]
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like Zimmerman did? oh i've been waiting for someone to have to fess this one up.... :wonka:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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airclay said:
MightyWhite said:
I don't believe a word you say and you definitely didn't fight with anyone. You remind me of a cur dog that acts tough and mean when it's tied to a chain, but let that dog of the chain and it won't bite anything.



It matters not what your opinion of me is but, if you want to continue to pursue it you can pm me and I'll provide you with info on where to find me in dallas or you can come check out Power Trip at any show in your area and if I'm not touring with them then ask for Hood, john, nick or riley and they'll handle any of your complaints as well. ( https://powertriptx.bandcamp.com/ )

qman said:
Air believes in violence to solve disagreements in ideology, I'm not sure his moral compass is pointing in the correct direction.




well that's a strawman, I believe in using force to protect things I've helped build from those forcefully or violently disrupting it. there's a whole idea out there about a self policing scene that won't call the cops. either way you're still missing the point which was there are people on every side of everything that will stand their ground. your stereotyping view is far from being rooted in reality.


All you did was make a bunch of generalizations on how you "protect" your local scene, that's wonderful.

As far as standing your ground, that's a relative term. Germany has been flooded with a million third world people in the past year, this goes way beyond your little local disputes at punk shows in Dallas. :lol:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d6b05b8c-0634-11e6-a70d-4e39ac32c284.html#axzz46Z2VfqYu

"Poland's rightwing government has made it clear that newcomers (refugees) are not welcome... with the support of 70 percent of its public"

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/04/20/employers-network-finds-just-2000-internships-for-one-million-migrants/

"A network of over 36 German companies promised to help migrants into the labour market, but only managed to get 2000 places"

Yeah Tip, pipedream means economic reality in short order, what a disaster. :facepalm:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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qman said:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/04/20/employers-network-finds-just-2000-internships-for-one-million-migrants/

"A network of over 36 German companies promised to help migrants into the labour market, but only managed to get 2000 places"

Yeah Tip, pipedream means economic reality in short order, what a disaster. :facepalm:


Can you please tell us what the unemployment rate in Germany is with these million migrant workers?  I'm just curious if I should trust Breitbart or not.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/04/20/employers-network-finds-just-2000-internships-for-one-million-migrants/

"A network of over 36 German companies promised to help migrants into the labour market, but only managed to get 2000 places"

Yeah Tip, pipedream means economic reality in short order, what a disaster. :facepalm:


Can you please tell us what the unemployment rate in Germany is with these million migrant workers?  I'm just curious if I should trust Breitbart or not.


Like in the US with illegals, I'm sure the recent flood of "refugees" are NOT accounted for in the unemployment rate.  How can anyone account for something that isn't measurable in the first place?

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
I'm sure the recent flood of "refugees" are NOT accounted for in the unemployment rate.  How can anyone account for something that isn't measurable in the first place?


You posted an article with the message "Yeah Tip, pipedream means economic reality in short order, what a disaster. :facepalm:"

What "disaster" were you referring to?  How is being saved from war a "disaster" for either the refugees or the Germans?


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
I'm sure the recent flood of "refugees" are NOT accounted for in the unemployment rate.  How can anyone account for something that isn't measurable in the first place?


You posted an article with the message "Yeah Tip, pipedream means economic reality in short order, what a disaster. :facepalm:"

What "disaster" were you referring to?  How is being saved from war a "disaster" for either the refugees or the Germans?


Number one, over half of these "refugees" aren't being saved from war conditions since they're coming from all different third world nations, in fact even being from Syria no longer qualifies a person as a war refugee.

Number two, Tip has always maintained that the migrants would transaction into the workforce and begin contributing in short order, that's nothing more than a pipedream. The reality on the ground is now proving otherwise,  they're going to be social and financial burdens for decades if not longer.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
What "disaster" were you referring to?  How is being saved from war a "disaster" for either the refugees or the Germans?


Number one, over half of these "refugees" aren't being saved from war conditions since they're coming from all different third world nations, in fact even being from Syria no longer qualifies a person as a war refugee.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think anyone here has argued that non-refugees should automatically get admitted.

qman said:
Number two, Tip has always maintained that the migrants would transaction into the workforce and begin contributing in short order, that's nothing more than a pipedream. The reality on the ground is now proving otherwise,  they're going to be social and financial burdens for decades if not longer.


I don't know what makes you think they won't enter the workforce given the low unemployment rate in Germany.  :shrug:


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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https://europeansting.com/2014/01/21/eurostat-real-unemployment-double-than-the-official-rate/

Germany's unemployment really near 12%.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/10242667/Germanys-low-unemployment-rate-hides-real-hardship.html

20% on German workers are employed on a tax-exempt mini job earning 450 Euros or less a month.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/05/05/rich-germany-has-a-poverty-problem-inequality-europe/

There's over 12 million Germans living in poverty, like in the US wages for Germans, and full time employment have declined.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/04/20/employers-network-finds-just-2000-internships-for-one-million-migrants/

"many of the migrants were basically illiterate and may end up jobless creating a generation of men and women who are a burden on the state rather than a benefit"

Yeah, when you have third world people with no skills, education, or ability to speak the native language it turns into a shitfest.

The German labor market is much more competitive than liberals think, Germans are having a rough time, never mind third world "refugees". :facepalm:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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Once again, you point out U6 unemployment, which I've told you before I don't mind using if you understand what the historical highs and lows for that are in tight and loose economies.

Germany, like the US, has a low unemployment rate right not, whichever measure you choose to look at.


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