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Suffolk (Co. and NY State) Proposes Banning Kratom
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https://www.longislandpress.com/2016/04/08/suffolk-pol-proposes-banning-kratom/
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Suffolk Proposes Banning Kratom, an Herb That Gives a ‘Legal High’
By Timothy Bolger -
April 8, 2016

Suffolk County and New York State lawmakers are considering proposals banning the sale of kratom, an herb imported from Southeast Asia that’s currently legal and can give users a feeling of euphoria.

Four state versions of the bill are currently pending in Albany
and the Suffolk County Legislature has scheduled a public hearing on its proposal at its next meeting in Hauppauge on Tuesday. Speakers are expected to include backers of the bill concerned that kratom will compound the opioid epidemic as well as those who say the herb, which is categorized as a dietary supplement, is safe and has medicinal uses.

“It is the drug of the day, unfortunately,” Suffolk Legis. Steve Stern (D-Dix Hills), who’s term limited and running for Congress, told Meet the Leaders shortly before he proposed the bill in March. “It can cause a euphoria, it is like an opioid and unfortunately it can cause a lot of the same kinds of problems. It’s considered a gateway drug to the much harder drugs like heroin.”:facepalm:

The Food and Drug Administration, which reports seeing an increase in kratom shipments, banned the importation of kratom two years ago. While the Drug Enforcement Administration lists it as a drug of concern with no medicinal value, it is not listed as a controlled substance, meaning sale and possession of kratom are legal on a federal level. But five states nationwide have banned kratom, including Indiana, Tennessee, Vermont, Arkansas and Wisconsin—and six states besides New York are considering bans, according to the American Kratom Association (AKA).

The AKA, a nonprofit group founded two years ago to advocate against the kratom crackdown, maintains that the herb can be used safely as a painkiller, to combat fatigue and as an anti-depressant. The group’s founding director, Susan Ash, uses kratom to treat the symptoms of Lyme Disease. It is typically ingested in pills or tea and is described as a stimulant in small doses while acting as an opiate in larger doses.

“Unfortunately, the spread of misinformation, both scientific and anecdotal, about kratom has created a challenging regulatory environment,” the association says on its website.

In January, The New York Times ran a story headlined “Kratom, an Addict’s Alternative, Is Found to Be Addictive Itself,” recounting the stories of several habitual kratom users who became chemically dependent on the herb. Days after the story ran, state lawmakers proposed bills banning kratom. The state Senate appears poised to vote on its version of the bill, but the Assembly proposals have yet to be voted out of various committees.

If the Suffolk version passes, violators would face punishments ranging from fines up to $1,000 or one year in jail. The proposal follows Suffolk bans on synthetic cannabinoids—designed to give a marijuana-like high—and salvia, another herb that gives a “legal high” despite the failed attempts to ban it statewide. The state banned bath salts, a synthetic drug that made headlines for its users violent behavior, in 2012.

Kratom last made news on Long Island in 2012, when state Attorney General Eric Schneiderman sued several head shops in Nassau and Suffolk for selling mislabeled or unlabeled products, including synthetic drugs and kratom.

“The proliferation of synthetic drugs has become a crisis in Suffolk County, New York State and across the country,” Schneiderman said at the time.




No need to study this plant, just ban it...:crankey:

:heart::kratomtee: . . . :peace:


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Re: Suffolk (Co. and NY State) Proposes Banning Kratom [Re: vinsue]
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dirty dirty heroin mmm

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Re: Suffolk (Co. and NY State) Proposes Banning Kratom [Re: vinsue] * 3
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It's not funny what they say has no medical value.  I'm surprised they haven't turned kratom into pharmaceuticals yet.

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Re: Suffolk (Co. and NY State) Proposes Banning Kratom [Re: Morel Guy]
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yeah right
the only shit they get right is anti biotics and most of that is just under the amount to kill living tissue

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Re: Suffolk (Co. and NY State) Proposes Banning Kratom [Re: Konyap] * 1
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My brain read
kill living tissue...:eek:
:burke: . . . :peace:


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Re: Suffolk (Co. and NY State) Proposes Banning Kratom [Re: vinsue] * 2
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Well, I would like you guys to take this seriously.

Please take the time to contact the people which will be deciding the fate of this wonderful plant in NY.

http://www.americankratom.org/_new_york_action_alert_your_help_needed


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Re: Suffolk (Co. and NY State) Proposes Banning Kratom [Re: vinsue]
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :zomgwtf: :feelsbadman:

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Re: Suffolk (Co. and NY State) Proposes Banning Kratom [Re: Connoisseur] * 1
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:badmanthisfeels:

It is very sad how wrong this article is on almost every aspect of kratom.

Can't believe we still haven't learned anything from the war on drugs...


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Re: Suffolk (Co. and NY State) Proposes Banning Kratom [Re: musiclover420]
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Is anyone else gonna be totally FUCKED by this other than me?!

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Re: Suffolk (Co. and NY State) Proposes Banning Kratom [Re: Connoisseur] * 1
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Hopefully they don't try and make it illegal in my state anytime soon, I just recently got on the Kratom train and I fucking luvvv it man


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Re: Suffolk (Co. and NY State) Proposes Banning Kratom [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
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Is it just suffolk? Saying suffolk "AND" new york state tells me it's differentiating the two. Is long island not new york state? I'm in nassau so idk if that affects me or not lol


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Re: Suffolk (Co. and NY State) Proposes Banning Kratom [Re: blackhawk]
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LI is part of NY but Suffolk is the most shitty county as far as drug laws goes that's why they specify it

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Re: Suffolk (Co. and NY State) Proposes Banning Kratom [Re: Connoisseur]
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True that. I remember they banned salvia, too, just in suffolk lol


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Re: Suffolk (Co. and NY State) Proposes Banning Kratom [Re: blackhawk]
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YEP :huxleyfacepalm:

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Re: Suffolk (Co. and NY State) Proposes Banning Kratom [Re: Connoisseur]
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"The state banned bath salts"

Really? All of them? Also, wait, what exactly did they ban?

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Re: Suffolk (Co. and NY State) Proposes Banning Kratom [Re: Kryptos]
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bath salts?


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Re: Suffolk (Co. and NY State) Proposes Banning Kratom [Re: blackhawk]
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This upsets me so much considering that it will be effecting me if passed. I bet the politicians proposing this law have been getting funded from the pharmaceutical companies. Whats wrong with feeling euphoric?


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Re: Suffolk (Co. and NY State) Proposes Banning Kratom [Re: LiquidVisions] * 1
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With the state bill you also have to note that it makes not only buying/selling but possession and shipping illegal, And most of the shipment's come thru NYISC (NY customs's at JFK)

Dose anyone have a link to the Suffolk county bill ?

NYS bill's

-    https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2015/s6345
-  https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2015/a9068
-  https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2015/a9121
-  https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2015/a8670

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Re: Suffolk (Co. and NY State) Proposes Banning Kratom [Re: LIBERTYNY]
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Kratom exchange network should form. Growing a plant isn't as easy as buying prepared stuff but its a workaround. Still dumb they'd even ban such a useful plant. But they're dumb and that's what counts. Write to your senator. It makes a difference.


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Re: Suffolk (Co. and NY State) Proposes Banning Kratom [Re: morbiddoctor]
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Growing in NY is a bi*ch

The plants dont start to get potent untill they get mature. Not that the leaf is useless but you will be lucky if a 3' plant is about half as potent as standard leaf. By the time its dry you will have not much at all espicaly if S&V is not your thing. 

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