Tipote said:

qman said:

Not a good comparison at all, we are talking about native EU citizens potentially over reacting to Muslims living inside of the EU, this is because they are being affected DIRECTLY from the present threat.

You're talking about Muslims in the EU overreacting to wars taking place 2000 miles away from where they currently reside, the current terrorism inside the EU can't be blamed or rationalized on those events.

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Comparison doesnt have to involve two identical things you know, thats why its a "comparison"...

Its a global world, distance means less and less. Actions against muslims are not only in the Middle East. It is a global war with global ramifications.

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airclay said:

any thing that fucks with their sense of cultural supremacy, tipote. colonization, genocide, whatever.

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Tipote said:

I'll await Bubbles to come in to call immigration a form of genocide

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airclay said:

not all euro's see it as victimization, only those looking to play the victim card when they see less and less of their own cultural hegemony and fall prey to xenophobic nonsense. it's much like you and your ideas about white cultural hegemony here in the us. so I can understand why you'd view it in that manner.

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Tipote said:

German neo-Nazi politician rescued from car crash by Syrian refugees

fuckin' rescu-gees!

and some interesting points here..
I’m a peace activist in Brussels. Here’s 5 things you need to know about the attacks.

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3. Prison does not cure people — quite the opposite

4. To stop terrorism, you have to stop participating in it

The men who carried out these attacks were politically educated out of the destruction of Iraq, the invasion of Afghanistan, the drone bombings in Pakistan and Yemen, the torture of Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib, and the colonization and occupation of Palestine. To make it shorter, they, mostly identify as Muslims, and they were horrified by the ideological war of the West against what it wrongfully calls “the Muslim world.” This is the main motivator behind the men of ISIS becoming killers. “Your wars, our deaths” became a slogan after the Paris attacks. It might not be totally accurate, and we definitely cannot simplify things, but there is a lot of truth in it.

5. Governments know how to defeat ISIS, but prefer not to do anything about it

We know, for example, that the real people fighting ISIS at the moment are the Kurds in Kobane and other cities. We know that helping and supporting them, while cutting the route of ISIS’s oil to Turkey, would deal a huge blow to the so-called Islamic State. Are we doing it? Not at all.

Supporting Turkey, a crucial actor in this whole story with Machiavellian policies on the ground, is a major factor in the ongoing violence. We also know the role that Saudi Arabia, the most repressive state in the world, plays in the region, through its funding of Wahhabism — the most radical and dangerous interpretation of Islam possible. Rather than doing something against the spread of Wahhabism, the West is enabling it. France, for example, just gave Mohammed Ben Nayef — the future king of Saudi Arabia — its highest honor, the “legion d’honneur,” a few days ago.

These constant double standards and the lies of our governments need to be challenged. They create rancour and hate.

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"The men who carried out these attacks were politically educated..."

Oh were they, you keep digging your hole deeper by rationalizing and apologizing for terrorist acts against the West carried out by Muslims. Truly disgusting.  You will have blood on your hands one day along with the moron that wrote that dribble.

viktor said:

You might want to Google how Islam conquered all the territories it now controls. Ask yourself if it's really any different to what's happening in Europe right now.

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Perhaps you can point out the similarities for me. And maybe compare Christianity and Islam in this way.

All religion spread by soft and hard power. By brutal means and voluntarily.

Both you and Daesh reduce modern day Islam to 7th century barbarism. Many of you on here are Daesh's intellectual partners. You feed eachother

qman said:

"It is a global war"

What is a "global war"?

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qman said:

"The men who carried out these attacks were politically educated..."

Oh were they, you keep digging your hole deeper by rationalizing and apologizing for terrorist acts against the West carried out by Muslims. Truly disgusting.  You will have blood on your hands one day along with the moron that wrote that dribble.

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Starter said:

Tip...

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Since you guys struggle to understand my points almost every time, I will say again that I do not condone murder of any kind. I recognise that murder and hate only breed more murder and hate.

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But you do support murder, rape and social implosion as you want a mongrelised race of Europeans invaded by third world Islamists. You're a Leftist and that's your game. Now you demand all to tolerate this crap and just take it in the ass.

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sigh... so much in this thread..

No i dont support those things.

"mongrelised race"?

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It's really shameless of you to squirm with your turbo posted bullshit as critical victims of the terrorists are still dying and adding to the toll. You paint the Muslims as the victims when it's their Islam which motivates and enables the crimes.

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More Muslims are killed by Islam extremism than anyone else. As I posted above in the video, you will see that actually religiosity and extremism are not clear partners. The opposite has more relevance.

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It is your sort who have opened the borders to this evil while bleating all who oppose this are racists and Islamophobes. This whole fucking thread of 140+ pages has had you do this!

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My sort? You really highlight yourself as a simplistic binary thinker. Black or white, good or bad..
You generalise me just as you generalise all groups in really far reaching ways. I had nothing to do with the open borders and I've said repeatedly that its possible to have a secure border AND accept refugees. They are not mutually exclusive.

And actually NO, i dont say that anyone who opposes accepting refugees are racists. I've acknowledged consistently that there are huge legitimate concerns. I only call racists racist. Like you for example are a racist (see above with you saying "mongrelised race")

Generally I do not call people racist lightly. I accept that some people unfairly use that label to shut down debate, i disagree with that completely. But "racist" actually has a meaning, and you exemplify it.

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So go toss your SJW Islamic cock sucking and jizz swallowing bullshit. So go fuck off to your favorite mosque and fast on Ramadan, as some sort of Leftist and inclusive piety bollocks - since you've admitted in this thread that's what you do. Fucking pathetic.

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You, sir, are a gentlemen and a scholar............

qman said:

I have news for you, citizens in the US and EU don't give a flying fuck what motivates these Muslims extremists to blow up airports, riot and rape women, blow up buildings and kill innocent people.

When the shit hits the fan and the native EU population takes their own form of "homeland security", they will not be concerning themselves with understanding their enemy.

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"We can only live so securely"

You're underestimating the extreme behavior Europeans are capable of to ensure their safety.

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Bubbles85 said:

Tipote said:

I'll await Bubbles to come in to call immigration a form of genocide

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Just because your fine with the majority of native EU populations becoming a minority in their own country's to third world immigrants, does not mean every one else is.

The native British population WILL be a minority in the UK by 2066 if current immigration trends continue and the same is true for many other EU states.

Not that it bothers you in the slightest.

Native EU populations becoming a minority across the entire continent would fit your "Muslimistan" (your words) family heritage quiet well i guess and you would clearly just convert to Islam at that point anyway, since you all ready fast for Ramadan and pray at mosque.

You clearly have no connection to your European heritage and are quite happy to see it sacrificed for the Third World.

Oh and just for the record, trying to "understand" or give reasoning as to why these fucking cowards commit these crimes, is in its self trying to find a away to justify their actions. You can say it's not all you like, but it clearly is.

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Tipote said:

qman said:

I have news for you, citizens in the US and EU don't give a flying fuck what motivates these Muslims extremists to blow up airports, riot and rape women, blow up buildings and kill innocent people.

When the shit hits the fan and the native EU population takes their own form of "homeland security", they will not be concerning themselves with understanding their enemy.

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Believe it or not, that is not news to me. That is exactly why things are only getting worse. If you don't understand your enemy, you will lose.

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"We can only live so securely"

You're underestimating the extreme behavior Europeans are capable of to ensure their safety.

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No, its a fact that you can't have 100% security. You are underestimating everyone's capacity for extreme behaviour.

What are you saying, Europeans will get those gas chambers going again? and then what? What do you think the response would be?

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qman said:

Who knows, that's why I say it's better to admit that the "cultural diversity" experiment was a huge miscalculation and starting a mass scale deportation process would be the most prudent action going forward.

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WAN said:

I bet if we do get ethnically pure states, we will see a huge reduction in hate crimes and terrorist acts.

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I agree.

And I bet if we get bigot free states, we will see a huge reduction in hate crimes and terrorist acts.

So do we kick out the people of a different race, or do we kick out the bigots? 

Tipote said:

If you don't understand your enemy, you will lose.

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