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Re: Trump vs. Hitlery [Re: Shins] * 1
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Shins said:
koods said:
Shins said:
If I need to explain it to you by this point.  You're hopeless.


Sounds like you can't actually make an argument, because she has never held a position in government where she could even order the deaths of anyone.



Dude she was secretary of state, basically in charge of foreign policy. 

You're telling me that foreign policy cannot result in people getting killed?  Jesus christ dude wake up!


You don't give a shit about that. You're voting for someone who said he would kill innocent women and children as a campaign promise.


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Trump vs. Hitlery [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
koods said:
zappaisgod said:
She is largely responsible for the fiasco in Libya.  Obama wasn't going to go but she talked him into it.  This is from the NY Times who love her.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/hillary-clinton-libya.html


How does that make her a murderer?

Meanwhile, trump says he will kill the families of terrorist (women and children) and shins is fine with that.


He can't.  The troops won't carry out his orders. 
http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2016/02/military_would_defy_president.html

Quote:
"If he were to order that once in government, the American armed forces would refuse to act," Hayden said, referring to Trump's insistence that the U.S. use torture on terror suspects and go after suspects' families. "You are required not to follow an unlawful order that would be in violation of all the international laws of armed conflict."



Ok, so president trump will make orders so egregious that it will result in a constitutional crisis. Brilliant.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Trump vs. Hitlery [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Shins said:
koods said:
Shins said:
If I need to explain it to you by this point.  You're hopeless.


Sounds like you can't actually make an argument, because she has never held a position in government where she could even order the deaths of anyone.



Dude she was secretary of state, basically in charge of foreign policy. 

You're telling me that foreign policy cannot result in people getting killed?  Jesus christ dude wake up!


You don't give a shit about that. You're voting for someone who said he would kill innocent women and children as a campaign promise.




Thus is the first I've heard of that.  Do you have a source?

And you are shifting things, we're talking about Hitlery here, what trump thinks is irrelevant to the fact that hitlery is a sociopathic killer who allies with terrorists!


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Re: Trump vs. Hitlery [Re: Shins]
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Also don't forget that Hitlery and Obama ALREADY HAVE been killing entire families!


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Re: Trump vs. Hitlery [Re: Shins]
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Shins said:
Lynnch said:
Secretary Clinton is not as great as her supporters make her out to be, but she's no where near as terrible as conservative smear campaigners are trying to maker her seem. Mass murderer? Give me a fucking break dude. :facepalm:

Also, No one is talking about raising anyone's taxes to 90%. For fucks sake :facepalm:




She fucking murdered Libya and fucking ARMED ISIS!

For crying out loud!


She murdered Libya? Lol what does that even mean. There was a civil war. We took sides because people were being slaughtered by the government. ISIS is armed with weapons they have seized in Iraq and Syria.


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Re: Trump vs. Hitlery [Re: koods]
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It won't be a constitutional crisis.  A soldier is duty bound to ignore an unlawful order.


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Re: Trump vs. Hitlery [Re: koods]
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I dont think shins knows what he means half time, and zappa thats cute. The statsi and gestapo were never short on members. People are always willing to follow orders.

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Re: Trump vs. Hitlery [Re: Shins]
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"The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families. They care about their lives, don't kid yourself. When they say they don't care about their lives, you have to take out their families," Trump said.


Yeah that's fucked up.

He's making a point though about how if you kill one family member, the rest are likely to be radicalized.  It's very brash though for sure!  I only support trump to a degree, I said.

Note that The Obama administration has bombed entire wedding parties on several occasions.


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Re: Trump vs. Hitlery [Re: Shins]
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Shins said:
koods said:
Shins said:
koods said:
Sounds like you can't actually make an argument, because she has never held a position in government where she could even order the deaths of anyone.



Dude she was secretary of state, basically in charge of foreign policy. 

You're telling me that foreign policy cannot result in people getting killed?  Jesus christ dude wake up!


You don't give a shit about that. You're voting for someone who said he would kill innocent women and children as a campaign promise.




Thus is the first I've heard of that.  Do you have a source?


We got another another low information trump voter here.



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Re: Trump vs. Hitlery [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
Shins said:
Lynnch said:
Secretary Clinton is not as great as her supporters make her out to be, but she's no where near as terrible as conservative smear campaigners are trying to maker her seem. Mass murderer? Give me a fucking break dude. :facepalm:

Also, No one is talking about raising anyone's taxes to 90%. For fucks sake :facepalm:




She fucking murdered Libya and fucking ARMED ISIS!

For crying out loud!


She murdered Libya? Lol what does that even mean. There was a civil war. We took sides because people were being slaughtered by the government. ISIS is armed with weapons they have seized in Iraq and Syria.


There was a civil war that was about to end.  Gaddafi had them peened in Benghazi and was going to finish them.  Then the stupid cunt and the fRench cunts decided they needed to intervene to support the loser side.  Gaddafi had already been pacified by Reagan.  Now the country is in utter chaos, an ISIS stronghold and 4 Americans are dead.

We do not need idiots like her in charge of anything.  As with Syria where the current idiot in chief decided to open his fucking yap and then send bombers against the dictator in favor of the rebels.

Nutcases rush in when a void exists.


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Re: Trump vs. Hitlery [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Shins said:
Lynnch said:
Secretary Clinton is not as great as her supporters make her out to be, but she's no where near as terrible as conservative smear campaigners are trying to maker her seem. Mass murderer? Give me a fucking break dude. :facepalm:

Also, No one is talking about raising anyone's taxes to 90%. For fucks sake :facepalm:




She fucking murdered Libya and fucking ARMED ISIS!

For crying out loud!


She murdered Libya? Lol what does that even mean. There was a civil war. We took sides because people were being slaughtered by the government. ISIS is armed with weapons they have seized in Iraq and Syria.




Turn of your fucking TV already and research these topics like an adult.  Use your brain for once.  You are regurgitating the press secretary verbatim.  The press secretary is a professional liar and propagandist.  America has plans to take out Libya and Syria FOR DECADES BEFORE!  They in sighted and in flamed the civil war!  It's the same formula since Lawrence of arabia!


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Re: Trump vs. Hitlery [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
I dont think shins knows what he means half time, and zappa thats cute. The statsi and gestapo were never short on members. People are always willing to follow orders.


Are those Americans?  Do you think the President's orders will go to the privates?


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Re: Trump vs. Hitlery [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
I dont think shins knows what he means half time, and zappa thats cute. The statsi and gestapo were never short on members. People are always willing to follow orders.



I know exactly what I mean, the problem is that I'm tired of explaining it to you guys.  Koods is supposed to be an adult and I need to sit here and spoon feed him.  I'm tired of fucking know-nothing voters like him.

I'm going to go take a break, I'm getting upset.


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Re: Trump vs. Hitlery [Re: Shins]
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Shins said:
"The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families. They care about their lives, don't kid yourself. When they say they don't care about their lives, you have to take out their families," Trump said.


Yeah that's fucked up.

He's making a point though about how if you kill one family member, the rest are likely to be radicalized.  It's very brash though for sure!  I only support trump to a degree, I said.

Note that The Obama administration has bombed entire wedding parties on several occasions.


No, he's saying that if you kill their families then you might discourage them because their actions might get their loved ones killed.

And LOL telling me to get informed, and you didn't even know your candidate advocates committing war crimes.


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Re: Trump vs. Hitlery [Re: koods]
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And you don't even know your candidate already has!


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Re: Trump vs. Hitlery [Re: zappaisgod]
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No, theyre humans. Youre a little ignorant if you think the same basic psychological principals dont apply to american soldiers.

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Re: Trump vs. Hitlery [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Shins said:
"The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families. They care about their lives, don't kid yourself. When they say they don't care about their lives, you have to take out their families," Trump said.


Yeah that's fucked up.

He's making a point though about how if you kill one family member, the rest are likely to be radicalized.  It's very brash though for sure!  I only support trump to a degree, I said.

Note that The Obama administration has bombed entire wedding parties on several occasions.


No, he's saying that if you kill their families then you might discourage them because their actions might get their loved ones killed.



He is right about that.  It is a common tactic of the enemy.


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Re: Trump vs. Hitlery [Re: Shins]
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Note that in the democratic debates the topic of war and ISIS brings up difficult and nuanced choices, in the republican debates, brings talk of carpet bombing and turning the desert to glass.

It's pretty clear Shins gets all of his information from talk radio. He ends every sentence with an exclamation point! He's very upset!

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Re: Trump vs. Hitlery [Re: Shins]
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To be fair I'm going to vote for Bernie, but I will certainly vote for Hillary in November if it comes to that because the republicans are a fucking disaster, Every time a republican gets elected president, a democrat has to come in and clean up the mess left behind.


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Re: Trump vs. Hitlery [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
koods said:
Shins said:
"The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families. They care about their lives, don't kid yourself. When they say they don't care about their lives, you have to take out their families," Trump said.


Yeah that's fucked up.

He's making a point though about how if you kill one family member, the rest are likely to be radicalized.  It's very brash though for sure!  I only support trump to a degree, I said.

Note that The Obama administration has bombed entire wedding parties on several occasions.


No, he's saying that if you kill their families then you might discourage them because their actions might get their loved ones killed.



He is right about that.  It is a common tactic of the enemy.


It's also a war crime.


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