Tipote said:

hostileuniverse said:

^^^ here's the problem with progressives, they focus on a bunch of idiots posting stupid shit, rather than dealing with the actual problem. News flash, you're always gonna have a few racists and bigots saying stupid shit. Get over it. if you were half as concerned about the women and girls who've been raped as you are about the handful of racists, you could prolly solve the damn problem...

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you consistently claim that i dont care about rape but you never really show me what you base that on. theres nothing I can really say to get it through to you that youre wrong but oh well

yes there are always filthy comments, thats true. but these kind of comments are become more common. It is indicative of what the thread is about.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

If anyone is anti-immigrant, perhaps Bernie is your man:

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qman said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

If anyone is anti-immigrant, perhaps Bernie is your man:

http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-julian-castro-immigration-nevada-bernie-sanders-2016-2

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"anti-immigrant"

Asking for the enforcement of current illegal immigration laws isn't "anti-immigrant".

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qman said:

Malkuthian said:

But you seem perfectly okay with this when speaking about groups of your own choosing.
Why is that?

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I point out specific facts from those groups based on evidence in the real world, that's the difference.

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Quote:

The situation is becoming radicalized as universal values lose their authority and legitimacy. So long as they could assert themselves as mediating values, they succeeded, more or less well, in integrating singularities, as differences, into a universal culture of difference. But they can no longer do this now, as triumphant globalization has swept away all differences and values, bringing into being an entirely indifferent culture (or lack of it). Once the universal has disappeared, all that remains is the all-powerfull global technostructure, set over against singularities that are now returned to the wild and left to themselves.

The universal has had its historical chance, but today, confronted on the one hand with a global order to which there is no alternative and, on the other, with singularities drifting off on their own or rising up against the system, the concepts of freedom, democracy and human rights cut a very pale figure, being merely the ghosts of a vanished universal.
- Jean Baudrillard, "The Violence of the Global", 2002

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good quote!

night_shift said:

Bubbles85 said:

This is the conversation you had with hostile, exactly as it was written by you're self.

night_shift said:

hostileuniverse said:

So you think the US should just let anyone from South America enter as they wish?

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Yes.

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night_shift said:

hostileuniverse said:

Wait, you want excessive illegal immigration, even though you KNOW it will fuck your country?

Did I read that correctly?

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Yes.

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night_shift said:

hostileuniverse said:

Has it occurred to you how much suffering there will be if that happens?

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Yes. I am not happy about it either.

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You stated that you want illegal immigration to continue uncontrolled, until such a point that it fucks you're country up? Why? How do you expect any one to take that seriously?

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Logic seems to be failing here. You replaced "even though" with "until such a point that". Try again and we may end up on the same track if you get it.

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