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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
hostileuniverse said:
No, your statement is BS, this is not an invasion in the typical sense, our own political leaders are allowing our countries to be overrun by savages... Wtf???




The country is already overrun by savages.  A good portion of the population still believes in people being raised from the dead by mystical sky wizards.  It doesn't get a whole lot more primitive than that.


Comparing peaceful Christians to the savagery of Islam... do you even know how Muslim countries treat women, gays and minorities?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: hostileuniverse] * 4
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There are fewer peaceful Christians than there are peaceful Muslims.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: Bubbles85]
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: night_shift] * 1
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Great post sir, and you certainly should not be optimistic imo. History tells us so along with current human politics. Also don't be too optimistic about many considering your post seriously and open mindedly before responding. It's the same humanity at play.  From what I see it's almost all black and white here. :satansmoking:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: night_shift]
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This is the conversation you had with hostile, exactly as it was written by you're self.

night_shift said:
hostileuniverse said:
So you think the US should just let anyone from South America enter as they wish?


Yes.


night_shift said:
hostileuniverse said:
Wait, you want excessive illegal immigration, even though you KNOW it will fuck your country?

Did I read that correctly?


Yes.


night_shift said:
hostileuniverse said:
Has it occurred to you how much suffering there will be if that happens? :frown:


Yes. I am not happy about it either.


You stated that you want illegal immigration to continue uncontrolled, until such a point that it fucks you're country up? Why? How do you expect any one to take that seriously?

How is the world suddenly going to be a better place, by allowing that to happen? Please explain this to me.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: night_shift]
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night_shift said:
I didn't fucking mean civil war but you had to jump right to the conclusion that if I'm concerned about tears and blood I mean "here", didn't you. I advocate taking our heads out of our asses, looking at a map of the world without being concerned just about the tiny little corner we happen to be lucky (or not) to live in, and think about changing what's causing the rivers and blood already flowing. With the goal of eventually stopping this fucking madness.


What, by allowing the peaceful nations on Earth to fall to anarchy, by allowing uncontrolled migration to fuck them up? Yes, I'm sure that will definitely stop the madness that is happening in other parts of the World. :rolleyes:

night_shift said:
Unfortunately, this suggests the mindset of "this doesn't affect me so I don't have to think about it" needs to be dropped, and judging by what I see, I am not very optimistic. (Not to mention said mindset is wrong, but this is for another topic.)


Actually it suggests the complete opposite. This is affecting people world wide, hence the discussions that were having here. If it didn't affect us in Europe, or America, why would we even be talking about it?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85] * 1
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Night shift I take you seriously.

Give no fucks
Take no orders
Smash the prisons
And the borders


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: airclay]
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airclay said:
Night shift I take you seriously.

Give no fucks
Take no orders
Smash the prisons
And the borders


Sounds like Syria, a progressive utopia?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: hostileuniverse]
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it was always America that was suppose to be the progressive utopia.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
BTW, the second generation was completely fluent in English.


as is the case with all immigrant families.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote] * 1
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i know this debate doesnt come down to just numbers but i thought this worth posting in this thread for a bit of perspective..




also.. this is an example of the lessons of history being forgotten. I saw this and thought of Starter.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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^^^ here's the problem with progressives, they focus on a bunch of idiots posting stupid shit, rather than dealing with the actual problem. News flash, you're always gonna have a few racists and bigots saying stupid shit. Get over it. if you were half as concerned about the women and girls who've been raped as you are about the handful of racists, you could prolly solve the damn problem...


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
qman said:
BTW, the second generation was completely fluent in English.


as is the case with all immigrant families.


We wish, it's not the case.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Tipote said:
qman said:
BTW, the second generation was completely fluent in English.


as is the case with all immigrant families.


We wish, it's not the case.





Looks like 92% of Latino immigrants in the US are by the second generation. And 99% by third, I think I can see a trend. What immigrants are you specifically referring to, do you have data to support that statement? I can't imagine it being much different tho, when you're raised somewhere you tend to pick up the language.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: airclay]
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That doesn't exactly support your claim that all second generation immigrants are fluent in English.  In fact, it disproves your claim.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Enlil]
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Are we interpreting it differently?

If half of second gen's are bilingual and then another 42% mostly speaks english that would entail that 92% of 2nd gen's are speaking english. And to follow the 3rd gen with a 99% of english speakers. The breakdown in the 3rd gen shows mostly english only users are on the rise there too. Which would also be indicative of children learning the languages of where they're raised. Which could also be attributed to the higher english skill in the 2nd gen's but that leads back to the point is that most 2nd gen immigrants do "learn the language"


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: airclay]
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We must be.  Let's start with the word "all".  I assume that we agree that "all" means 100%, no?  Is there anything on that chart that supports the claim that 100% of 2nd generation immigrants become fluent in the language of the nation to which they immigrate?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Enlil]
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I see perhaps I should have quoted my original statement regarding this rather than just quote Tipote since Qman didn't respond to it earlier.

airclay said:
qman said:
BTW, the second generation was completely fluent in English.



as someone with extended family that is illegal, I've never known second gen to not be bilingual


I think it's kind of goofy to point out the misuse of "all" when it's only 92% but not to point out the misuse of the fact that 8% of 2nd gens not using english to create some sort of anti-immigrant negative bulletin point. But ya know :shrug:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: airclay]
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First, I just realized that it was you quoting tipote, so I apologize for attributing the claim to you.

Second, 8% is a significant amount.  If you knew you had an 8% chance of food poisoning at a restaurant, would you eat there?  If you knew there was an 8% chance that the guy you invited to your home for dinner would rob you, would you invite him? 

8% of 2nd generation can easily be millions of people in the U.S.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
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hostileuniverse said:
^^^ here's the problem with progressives, they focus on a bunch of idiots posting stupid shit, rather than dealing with the actual problem. News flash, you're always gonna have a few racists and bigots saying stupid shit. Get over it. if you were half as concerned about the women and girls who've been raped as you are about the handful of racists, you could prolly solve the damn problem...


you consistently claim that i dont care about rape but you never really show me what you base that on. theres nothing I can really say to get it through to you that youre wrong but oh well

yes there are always filthy comments, thats true. but these kind of comments are become more common. It is indicative of what the thread is about.


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