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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: night_shift]
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night_shift said:
Tipote said:
this thread is just getting worse and worse, being filled with increasingly more and more ignorance and prejudice.


Precisely what's happening in our beloved "civilized" world.


Oh BS, the world, particularly the US, is more tolerant now than it's ever been. The race baiters just cannot accept that some folks have moved past discrimination.

America went to war with itself to END slavery, the ONLY nation to have done so. Yet, we are constantly accused of racism because we don't like the policies of the first "half black" president, or we don't want to import hundreds of thousand of possible terrorists and rapists, or we actually expect immigrants to follow our laws...

It's exhausting, how does one PROVE they are not racist? The race baiters KNOW it is practically impossible to prove such a thing, which is why they use it repeatedly, to implement their agenda... It's disgusting


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As we're celebrating the fall of the Berlin Wall, who's building walls right now? Tolerance, how I adore thee.


So you think the US should just let anyone from South America enter as they wish? Are you really that ignorant to think that the US can just take everyone in for a better life? I got an idea, let's just bring the billions of poor people from all around the world to America... Sound like a good plan?

Fact is, America already let's over a million immigrants move here every year, legally. Many more do it illegally, those are the ones we don't want. And as you conveniently cut out of your quote, anyone who opposes that is a "racist". Which is BS, I don't want anyone here illegally, black, brown, white, whatever. It just happens to be that the vast majority of them are brown coming across ONE particular border...

So, I ask again, should the US just import the billions of poor people from everywhere in the world???


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: hostileuniverse]
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i was just thinking of how if by having ones freedoms taken away we can please both liberals AND conservatives, that we inure ourselves to custom, and we accept the detriment to the freedoms in one's nation, and allow it, because people are happy; which is what is happening, by the way...i was wondering...why is it that we can't come up with a policy that both liberals and conservatives can be happy with, that DOESN'T infringe on the freedoms of the republic?

???

isn't that bewildering?

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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i was just thinking of how if by having ones freedoms taken away we can please both liberals AND conservatives, that we inure ourselves to custom, and we accept the detriment to the freedoms in one's nation, and allow it, because people are happy; which is what is happening, by the way...i was wondering...why is it that we can't come up with a policy that both liberals and conservatives can be happy with, that DOESN'T infringe on the freedoms of the republic?

???

isn't that bewildering?


It's a great question

from what I can tell, most libs feel that without govt overseeing every little detail of our lives, that we'd hurt ourselves or get taken advantage of by *inset big whatever here*

Conservatives in the other hand, just wanna be left alone for the most part.

It's quite an oversimplification, but that's pretty much how I see it


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: hostileuniverse]
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yes, it's oversimplified.

conservatives have never been in the position to be taken advantage of by themselves...so...yeah.

if it was flipped around:

from what i can tell, conservatives feel like without the republic overseeing every little detail of our lives, that we'd hurt ourselves or get taken advantage of by *inset big whatever here*

liberals in the other hand just pretty much want to be left alone, for the most part.

when has THAT^ ever happened?

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
yes, it's oversimplified.

conservatives have never been in the position to be taken advantage of by themselves...so...yeah.

if it was flipped around:

from what i can tell, conservatives feel like without the republic overseeing every little detail of our lives, that we'd hurt ourselves or get taken advantage of by *inset big whatever here*

liberals in the other hand just pretty much want to be left alone, for the most part.

when has THAT^ ever happened?


Um what? I know you're Canadian so I'll cut you some slack...

Liberals campaign for bigger govt, just look at Bernie and Hillary, in case you are unaware, the more govt, the more control they have over your life.

Think of all the things liberals want and fight to control, healthcare, education, the environment, etc... The list goes on and on but you get the point ( I hope )

The current crop of GOP, a major platform of theirs is shrinking the size and scope of govt, well except for Christie and Jeb, who are NOT conservatives to begin with...

If you've ever heard of "states rights", that's what it's referring to. Getting the federal govt out of micromanaging every little part of our lives. It should be left to every state to manage its citizens and how they want to live. When the federal govt does it, you no longer have any choice of where to move, the rules are the same everywhere. "Equal misery for everyone"

That's originally how the states were set up, as little experiments, one state could do something and if it worked, other states could adopt the same policies. But if it failed, then the fallout wouldn't be so dramatic as it wouldn't be affecting the whole country, just one state.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: night_shift]
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night_shift said:
hostileuniverse said:
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As we're celebrating the fall of the Berlin Wall, who's building walls right now? Tolerance, how I adore thee.


So you think the US should just let anyone from South America enter as they wish?


Yes.

hostileuniverse said:
Are you really that ignorant to think that the US can just take everyone in for a better life?


The US, if I remember correctly, was founded by disappointed Europeans who went to "the new land", without any respect to the population they found there, and built their empire from scratch. What can I say - I believe in the American Dream - you guys can achieve anything! Seriously though, no, in the way the current economical system works, you're screwed as well.  Here's a wild idea, change a system that fucks everybody.

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And as you conveniently cut out of your quote, anyone who opposes that is a "racist".?


I don't believe racism is a problem, I think racism is a symptom. Shoot me.


Sorry to break the news, but flooding the US with the current illegals has already dropped the standard of living for 99% of US citizens, they are a financial and social burden.  Trump is going to deport illegals and their anchor babies.

Also, the fact that the founders of the US won the war for this land doesn't mean it turns into a free for all, this is a European culture and it will always remain that way.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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Um what? I know you're Canadian so I'll cut you some slack...


that's ironic. you don't understand what i said, and you're cutting me slack?

the republic IS the government.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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conservatives have never been in the position to be taken advantage of by themselves...so...yeah.


I was gonna ignore this statement, but your obviously a partisan, so I'll address it.

Take a look at the donations to Barack Obama, Hillary, Bill Clinton, any democrat elected basically and tell me who is bought and paid for by big business...

The idea of the republicans being owned by big business is a lie the democrats have very cleverly fed to their IGNORANT voters, voters too dumb to fact check, and voters too fucking partisan to care for talking points...

Educate yourself

And yes, I did understand what you wrote which is why I explained who the "control freaks" of big government really are...

They tell you can marry gays ( govt. shouldn't be involved in marriage anyway, what business is it of theirs who marries who ) and you think you're free, FUCKING SHEEPLE...

Ron Paul and Rand (constitutional CONSERVATIVES) have been advocating drug legalization long before the democrats seen it as a voting issue...

So yeah, liberals pander to people, which is fine if it gets votes, but that's it, that's all they want, is the POWER to control everyone and everything...


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: night_shift]
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Sorry to break the news, but perhaps your financial and social systems are benefitting just a few people so there isn't enough left for the majority. Just a suggestion.


precisely. big-corporate regulated politicians want redistribution of wealth via trickle-down economics. and they're the one's always saying "redistribution is communism!" LOL and that "communism is eeeevil!"

:lolsy: balls.

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I was gonna ignore this statement, but your obviously a partisan, so I'll address it.

:curbyourenthusiasm: still no.

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The idea of the republicans being owned by big business is a lie the democrats have very cleverly fed to their IGNORANT voters, voters too dumb to fact check, and voters too fucking partisan to care for talking points...


LOL, that's not even anything remotely what i believe. i don't think republicans are owned any more or less than any other politician that has to compete in the lobby for support.

i think they're all either implored or they have to exact the impetus to lobby the money they need to move forward with their campaign against the other nominees.

no one's owned. but it's rigged.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Sorry to break the news, but perhaps your financial and social systems are benefitting just a few people so there isn't enough left for the majority. Just a suggestion.



LMFAO! This statement would actually be funny if you didn't vote...

I don't see your country (that you're too chicken to list) inviting MILLIONS of poor people in every year... And I can say that because the US is the the ONLY country expected to do this...

And if they do, please, fucking prove it.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
night_shift said:
Sorry to break the news, but perhaps your financial and social systems are benefitting just a few people so there isn't enough left for the majority. Just a suggestion.


precisely. big-corporate regulated politicians want redistribution of wealth via trickle-down economics. and they're the one's always saying "redistribution is communism!" LOL and that "communism is eeeevil!"

:lolsy: balls.

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I was gonna ignore this statement, but your obviously a partisan, so I'll address it.

:curbyourenthusiasm: still no.


Yup, obvious partisan or one of the ignorant ones mentioned earlier... Sorry you're too ignorant to see liberals and democrats are playing you for a fool. Enjoy your kook aid...


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: hostileuniverse]
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And yes, I did understand what you wrote which is why I explained who the "control freaks" of big government really are...


not really.

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They tell you can marry gays ( govt. shouldn't be involved in marriage anyway, what business is it of theirs who marries who ) and you think you're free, FUCKING SHEEPLE...




what? no one thinks their free, do they? that'd be an awful evincing of their naivete.

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Ron Paul and Rand (constitutional CONSERVATIVES) have been advocating drug legalization long before the democrats seen it as a voting issue...


i love constitutional conservatives...hate liberal constitutionalists, like the far-right leaning crazies popping up everywhere under the guise of republicanism and libertarianism.

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So yeah, liberals pander to people, which is fine if it gets votes, but that's it, that's all they want, is the POWER to control everyone and everything...


that's pretty much every single politician in our current system, save a handful; and whom can be presumed to be able to lie just as well as any of their current or former constituents.

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Yup, obvious partisan or one of the ignorant ones mentioned earlier... Sorry you're too ignorant to see liberals and democrats are playing you for a fool. Enjoy your kook aid...


ok, no, not at all. anyone can just pull bullshit out of their ass, you know. :wink:

i know! you must be...A CONSTITUTIONALIST LIBERAL!

or maybe not. i wouldn't know.

but from what i've seen, you're certainly a cause to/and for duping.

ALSO, way to address what i said.

so isn't it funny that you'll say liberals are all commies, and they want redistribution of wealth, and that they're evil for it. while trickle-down economics is the same concept.

also Trump wants to redistribute the wealth, to make America "great again", let's not forget. he wants to give everyday Americans "a fighting chance". good for wishing that for Americans. :thumbup: Good on Trump.

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night_shift said:
hostileuniverse said:
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Sorry to break the news, but perhaps your financial and social systems are benefitting just a few people so there isn't enough left for the majority. Just a suggestion.



LMFAO! This statement would actually be funny if you didn't vote...

I don't see your country (that you're too chicken to list) inviting MILLIONS of poor people in every year... And I can say that because the US is the the ONLY country expected to do this...

And if they do, please, fucking prove it.


Who on earth told you I vote?!

My country is Bulgaria, if you insist, although I don't see how this changes things. My opinion is my opinion. (Even though it effectively fucks my country, which it does.)


Wait, you want excessive illegal immigration, even though you KNOW it will fuck your country?

Did I read that correctly?


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night_shift said:
hostileuniverse said:
Wait, you want excessive illegal immigration, even though you KNOW it will fuck your country?

Did I read that correctly?


Yes.


So, you wanna bring down the system?

If so, is that so we can rebuild and change some stuff?


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