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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter]
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yes, mass influx of refugee immigration = increase in criminality.

no duh.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:




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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter] * 1
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As for the BBC, they always have a leftie agenda to hide the truth.
http://biasedbbc.org/quotes-of-shame/

Well at least you have no bias.:haha:

Personally I'm not  sure but I tend to believe there is something to your beliefs on this issue. While not to be extreme like I feel you are I do not trust the Middle East religions to produce healthy minded people. This includes Christianity btw.  It wouldn't surprise me however if Muslim men commit these acts often due to the IMO woman hating/fearing nature of their cultural/religious beliefs.  There's more but I find that discussing this rationally in the political forum is almost a lost cause.


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Edited by Icelander (02/07/16 02:38 AM)

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Icelander]
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Just look at how shit and abusive Christianity is, and that's after hundreds of years of major reforms and massive pressure from the non-religious to not longer put up with their shit.

Islam is what Christianity would be like if it never reformed. Think of the mentality that led to the witch burnings and Inquisition and that is what you're getting with Muslim immigrants.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor] * 1
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Bubbles85 said:
Malkuthian said:
When did I blame the west?


Okay, maybe i could have worded that better. You didn't specifically state that you blame the West, but you did post a link showing the death of 4 million Muslim's by the West, in the last 36 years.

I simply posted the link i did, to show that it is a two way street. Just as many non Muslims have been killed by radical Muslims, in the same time period. If not more.




Context
What was the point I was making with that comment?
And what sort of relevance is there in your answer, in regard to this point?

Bubbles85 said:
I was not referring to any thing i have stated toward why there are refugees, i was referring to you coming out with a load of rubbish about these people being savages, barbaric and unable to live with each other? All of which i had no clue, as to what the hell you were talking about?




Yes, someone in this tread claimed they flee from their countries partially because of how they treat gays, women and each other, hence my comment about this view. Read the thread, and follow the conversation you respond to, then you will get a clue....

Why are there refugees?

viktor said:
Question for Malkuthian:

Sweden has 5% of its population born in the third world. It also has a neo-Nazi party polling at 25%.

New Zealand has 20% of its population born in the third world. We don't even have a neo-Nazi party, let alone one outpolling all the others.

Why the difference?


I haven't got a clue.
Please enlighten me!


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
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Well it's simply a matter of human capital.

As I have written several times, all it takes is reading a history book and you can get a pretty good idea about Muslim culture. If you do, it's clear that it is not compatible with modern Western culture.

We are not naive in New Zealand. We are a remnant of the British Empire, which stretched across the whole world. The British came in contact with everybody, and they knew that some people are valuable and some people are no good.

The 20% of New Zealand from the third world are mostly from India, China, Samoa, Tonga and Fiji. These are cultures that have an appreciation of human decency.

The 5% of Sweden from the third world are mostly Muslims. History tells us that Muslims simply do not get along with other people.

My grandfather was in Egypt during WWII. The soldiers had a saying of the Arabs: that they were either at your feet or at your throat.

We know what Muslims are like in New Zealand, so we don't let them in.

Because we let in people from good cultures instead, they integrate with the locals, treat us with respect, generally work hard and contribute. So the people are not upset with immigration, and feel no need to vote for a neo-Nazi party.

Because Sweden lets in people who do not integrate, who do not treat you with respect, who do not generally work hard and contribute, the people become upset with immigration and vote for a neo-Nazi party.

I can guess from your posts and your hatred of America that you are a smygkommunister. So probably you think all people have equal value. This is a mistake, and I hope that you realise this before it's too late for your country.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor]
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A global simultaneous protest against Islamisation. As the Islamic invasion continues the outrage will spill over and the correction will come.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3435093/A-world-divided-Violent-clashes-break-globe-thousands-streets-anti-Islam-protests-organised-far-right-group-PEGIDA.html


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor] * 1
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viktor said:
The 5% of Sweden from the third world are mostly Muslims. History tells us that Muslims simply do not get along with other people.
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Because Sweden lets in people who do not integrate, who do not treat you with respect, who do not generally work hard and contribute
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As I have written several times, all it takes is reading a history book and you can get a pretty good idea about Muslim culture. If you do, it's clear that it is not compatible with modern Western culture.
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My grandfather was in Egypt during WWII. The soldiers had a saying of the Arabs: that they were either at your feet or at your throat.
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We know what Muslims are like in New Zealand, so we don't let them in.
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So probably you think all people have equal value. This is a mistake



Are these arguments? For real?

The majority of Muslims assimilate.
Some don't, and that's a problem.
But saying Muslims are a problem simply because they are Muslims is ridiculous.
Is that a real argument? No, that's just racist bullshit. I would like to discuss the problems and how to handle them, but as I stated earlier: first we need to stop with racist lies...


viktor said:
I can guess from your posts and your hatred of America that you are a smygkommunister. So probably you think all people have equal value. This is a mistake, and I hope that you realise this before it's too late for your country.


Your guess is wrong, no surprise there.
But off course all people have equal value, because value is subjective.
Are you speaking about objective value?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
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Quote:
But saying Muslims are a problem simply because they are Muslims is ridiculous.
Is that a real argument? No, that's just racist bullshit.


Muslims are not a race.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
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Malkuthian said:
But saying Muslims are a problem simply because they are Muslims is ridiculous.
Is that a real argument? No, that's just racist bullshit.


What the actual fuck? :rofl: :thefuckisthis: :facepalm:

Muslims are a race now? When did this happen?

I've pointed out to you that a country can take in four times as many poor people as you have done with no Nazi parties coming to power, or anywhere near power. You simply refuse to listen to the explanation for that.

What's your explanation for 25% of Swedes now being neo-Nazis? I'd love to hear if you've got a better one.

If you think "Muslims are a race" though you might have some serious deficiencies in the brain department. Maybe you'll never understand.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter]
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Starter said:
A global simultaneous protest against Islamisation. As the Islamic invasion continues the outrage will spill over and the correction will come.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3435093/A-world-divided-Violent-clashes-break-globe-thousands-streets-anti-Islam-protests-organised-far-right-group-PEGIDA.html


Man, it's sad that things have gone this far. They'll get worse, though. I've got a Swede here telling me that "Muslims are a race". So clearly people haven't even begun to really figure out what's going on.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor]
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Starter said:
Muslims are not a race.


viktor said:
What the actual fuck? :rofl: :thefuckisthis: :facepalm:

Muslims are a race now? When did this happen?



Facepalm all you like.

Racism consists of ideologies and practices that seek to justify, or cause, the unequal distribution of privileges or rights among groups that are conceptualized as racially or ethnically different.
Racism - Wikipedia

Furthermore I suggest you guys read this:
Race (Human Categorization) - Wikipedia

By the way, are Jews a race?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
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"Muslim" does not describe a racial or ethnic difference. I've seen Muslims of all races and ethnicities. So that's a massive FAIL I'm afraid, by your own definition.

Are Jews a race? Ask a Jew. Are Christians a race?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor]
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You really want to make a semantic point on this?
Lets not. Lets stick to the point. I would call the view that an entire group of people has less value than others racist. I am used to the word describing prejudice hate towards a specific group. You would not use the word in that sense. Ok. So then it's okay to argue that all Muslims have less value than others?....No it's not. It's still just as bad.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
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OK, then explain to me why Sweden is 5% Muslim and 25% neo-Nazi, while New Zealand is 20% poor third worlders and 0% neo-Nazi.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
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So I guess these Hindu are racists because they're outing gate crashing Muslims who won't take a good spray down of cow piss?

http://www.firstpost.com/india/wont-allow-muslims-at-garba-to-prevent-love-jihad-right-wing-group-in-gujarat-2455198.html

Seriously, this 'Muslims are a race' is taking the piss.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor] * 1
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There could be one million reasons for this.
Your idea is not the truth just because you came up with it.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
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I want to hear what you think the most likely explanation is. If you disagree with my explanation you must have a better one. Otherwise you're just disagreeing with me because you're too scared to face reality. And that's a pretty sad place to be, on a drugs forum.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor]
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Your arguments keeps getting better and better...

I don't have a theory. I don't think I have enough information to be able to make a statement regarding a probable reason. That's how I do it; I need a lot of in-data to draw conclusions. I know that's not how you do though... That does not mean I agree with your theory...

And because of this I am scared? How does that make sense to you?

Yea, cause taking drugs make you hate certain groups of people, everybody knows that...


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
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Malkuthian said:
You really want to make a semantic point on this?
Lets not. Lets stick to the point. I would call the view that an entire group of people has less value than others racist. I am used to the word describing prejudice hate towards a specific group. You would not use the word in that sense. Ok. So then it's okay to argue that all Muslims have less value than others?....No it's not. It's still just as bad.


"I would call the view that an entire group of people has less value than others racist"

Some groups do have less value, whether is based on culture, religion, ideology, or gang affiliation.  Race might have nothing to do with the problem of the group.

"describing prejudice hate towards a specific group"

It's not hate pointing the flaws of a specific group of people, it's observation.

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