Starter said:

if you can pull yourself away from wanting censorship and bans because you're butthurt.

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Starter said:

I'll post the answers on my Wednesday evening (AEST). If you do have that shiny new degree you will know full well math melts the libby argument of letting 'em in.

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Starter said:

It also proves leftist ideology is incapable of sound immigration policy and governance.

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Tipote said:

Bubbles85 said:

Tipote said:

I am french with muslims, jews, buddhists and christians in my family.

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Out of interest Tipote, where do you fit within that family? Are you even religious?

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No, i'm not religious at all. I dont like religion as a whole.

Religion is lame. I'd rather just work things out myself with my own faculties.

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Well, at least thats one thing the majority "left or right" can at least agree upon in this thread

Tipote said:

I agree! I'm not in favour of an open door. I am in favour of taking refugees under well organised and well managed mechanisms- I think this should start from UN camps.

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I've been to mosque many times and they say that I am muslim "in essence" whatever that means. They said once that they would love me to convert but they never pushed it. I just said its not EVER going to happen. I am still close with many muslims.

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Starter said:

Tipote said:

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I've been to mosque many times and they say that I am muslim "in essence" whatever that means. They said once that they would love me to convert but they never pushed it. I just said its not EVER going to happen. I am still close with many muslims.

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There we have it - Tipote admits his support of Islam - the enemy of the West. His view of being a muslim in "essence" [sic] is what motivates him to defend rapefugees and the invasion of Europe by these regressed savages.

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Malkuthian said:

Starter said:

if you can pull yourself away from wanting censorship and bans because you're butthurt.

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I simply like when rules and regulations are enforced.
There is actually a purpose behind rules regarding how people interact on a forum. Go figure!

Flaming around throwing insults at other people and then calling them butthurt, claiming they do not believe in freedom of speech, because they don't appreciate your flaming, makes zero sense.

You are acting bad and there is no way what so ever you can make that into someone else's error. You attempt to degrade someone else for your own failure. Man that's grasping for straws. Are you out of straw, straw man?

Starter said:

I'll post the answers on my Wednesday evening (AEST). If you do have that shiny new degree you will know full well math melts the libby argument of letting 'em in.

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New degree?

Which argument is that again? The argument saying that all boarders should be completely open all the time without any regulation? I.e. the argument that no one has presented?  Looking forward to you arguing against fictional opponents again, straw man! See you at the great unveiling of the edumocated truth that will change everything.

Starter said:

It also proves leftist ideology is incapable of sound immigration policy and governance.

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If you had an education in maths I doubt you would use the term "proof" so easily. You are using it as used in politic discussion, like some art-degree libtard fuckface (did I say it right?) Your bullshit isn't proof of anything.

Also:
"leftist ideology"
"Muslim ideology".
Etc...

Clumping up big groups acting as if they are one homogeneous group is not a very honest way to debate. Make enough ridiculous exaggerations and the solution will be easy to find. That's obviously your method here. A person with a REAL degree would not use this method. Ever. You have a degree in politics or art or something?

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Starter said:

Tipote said:

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I've been to mosque many times and they say that I am muslim "in essence" whatever that means. They said once that they would love me to convert but they never pushed it. I just said its not EVER going to happen. I am still close with many muslims.

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There we have it - Tipote admits his support of Islam - the enemy of the West. His view of being a muslim in "essence" [sic] is what motivates him to defend rapefugees and the invasion of Europe by these regressed savages.

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Starter said:

Tipote said:

Quote:

I've been to mosque many times and they say that I am muslim "in essence" whatever that means. They said once that they would love me to convert but they never pushed it. I just said its not EVER going to happen. I am still close with many muslims.

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There we have it - Tipote admits his support of Islam - the enemy of the West. His view of being a muslim in "essence" [sic] is what motivates him to defend rapefugees and the invasion of Europe by these regressed savages.

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He's a 'Muslim supporter' because he gets along with Muslims, and not a bigoted hater like you are? 

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Starter said:

Tipote said:

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I've been to mosque many times and they say that I am muslim "in essence" whatever that means. They said once that they would love me to convert but they never pushed it. I just said its not EVER going to happen. I am still close with many muslims.

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There we have it - Tipote admits his support of Islam - the enemy of the West. His view of being a muslim in "essence" [sic] is what motivates him to defend rapefugees and the invasion of Europe by these regressed savages.

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He's a 'Muslim supporter' because he gets along with Muslims, and not a bigoted hater like you are? 

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I get along with some Muslims, but am definitely not a Muslim supporter

Bubbles85 said:

Wow, shes actually suggesting that all Iraqi and Syrian refugees return home when ISIS is defeated.
She must be getting desperate to start making these sorts of claims.

Most of her own party are against her policies regarding this situation.

There's no way these people will just return home of there own free will, when, or should i say IF, Syria and Iraq finally become stable place's to live.

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qman said:

The refugees crisis in Germany going to cost over 50 billion Euros by 2017, what a disaster.

http://www.dw.com/en/the-costs-of-the-refugee-crisis/a-19016394

Merkel now talking about sending them home after the crisis, maybe another name for deportation.

http://www.dw.com/en/merkel-expects-most-syrian-and-iraqi-refugees-to-return-home-once-conflict-is-over/a-19013957

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"Of course, every euro spent by the government is somebody else's income, from construction companies building refugee shelters to language schools and shops where refugees buy food," IW's Tobias Hentze, who co-authored the study, told DW.

"That's why we consider spending for refugees to be a small stimulus package for the economy."

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Some of the refugees will find jobs after the bureaucratic hurdles are cleared and work permits are issued. The researchers estimate that 99,000 people this year and 276,000 in 2017 won't have to rely on the government's support, except for language and integration classes. The money not spent on them is taken into account in the study.

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Hentze admitted. "If refugees have jobs, they pay taxes and social security contributions. This money would be washed into state coffers."

He added that IW had not yet tried to calculate exactly how much that would be, but said an analysis of fiscal costs and benefits was in the works.

All studies on the cost of refugee support suffer from a lack of data. It is simply not clear yet how many refugees will be able to find work.

"Our expectations should not be too high," warned Detlef Scheele, a director at the Federal Labor Office (BA), in an interview for the "Süddeutsche Zeitung" newspaper. "If all goes well, maybe 10 percent of refugees will find work during their first year here, half of them after five years, and 70 percent after 15 years."

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If regional and federal authorities don't display financial restraint in other areas, the IW study concludes, they risk heading towards fresh borrowing very soon.

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Bubbles85 said:

Tipote said:

Bubbles85 said:

Tipote said:

I am french with muslims, jews, buddhists and christians in my family.

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Out of interest Tipote, where do you fit within that family? Are you even religious?

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No, i'm not religious at all. I dont like religion as a whole.

Religion is lame. I'd rather just work things out myself with my own faculties.

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Well, at least thats one thing the majority "left or right" can at least agree upon in this thread

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qman said:

Bubbles85 said:

Wow, shes actually suggesting that all Iraqi and Syrian refugees return home when ISIS is defeated.
She must be getting desperate to start making these sorts of claims.

Most of her own party are against her policies regarding this situation.

There's no way these people will just return home of there own free will, when, or should i say IF, Syria and Iraq finally become stable place's to live.

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illegals have to leave.

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Damn straight brotha

Tipote said:

YESSSS agreement!!

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I think we actually agree on alot more than we realize. Obviously there's still alot that we don't agree on. But hey, small steps and all that

Bubbles85 said:

Tipote said:

I agree! I'm not in favour of an open door. I am in favour of taking refugees under well organised and well managed mechanisms- I think this should start from UN camps.

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This is exactly where the British PM has got it bang on. As I'm sure you are aware, he has advocated places in the UK, only to the most vulnerable people, that are specifically selected from refugee camps in Syria's immediate vicinity.

He has opted out of relocating, or accepting, any migrant in to the country, that has come into the EU of there own accord, which is exactly the right decision to make, considering that, at that stage, we do not know who they are, or where they are from, once there here illegally.

At least this way, we know the people who really need the help the most (like the elderly, women and children) are getting it, instead of free loading economic migrants.

Thats not to say that immigration policy is not still a complete and utter mess in the UK, it most certainly is. But with this particular crisis, i think there doing the right thing.

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Bubbles85 said:

Tipote said:

YESSSS agreement!!

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I think we actually agree on alot more than we realize. Obviously there's still alot that we don't agree on. But hey, small steps and all that

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yeh man youre absolutely right.