airclay said:

Bubbles85 said:

Again, figure 1 does not show where the oil produced in Iraq is being exported to. Yes it shows that the amount being produced increased due to export, but you can't make the assumption that Iraq's oil was suddenly being exported away from the West, based on that graph.

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It doesn't but Tipote is correct as well as it does support an assumption that the invasion benefited corporations based in coalition states. I was able to find a Table 1 for past years I could probably prove it, but it is def speculation rn. Which in my opinion all factors point most towards.

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You're argument, that the invasion was soley based on policies to further US & UK corporate interests seems flawed.

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I thought I had clearly listed other capitlistic systems that came into play. Let me be more clear, the military industrial complex had a fair share of war profiteering.

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As i have all ready shown, why would the UK & US allow the majority of oil fields and exports to go to country's like China, Russia, Korea and Malaysia? It's clearly not within there interest to do that, if the war were solely for our own corporate interest's.

Why would they not keep a strangle hold on it and remain in full control of production and keep all of the profits?

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They support keeping a free world market running smoothly just a little more under their thumb. This is where the military industrial complex comes into play. They make a little money (or a lot if they profit through oil) and keep oil in the dollars, They make lots of money (or stimulate the economy) thru the various weapons and equipment contracts and private security firms based abroad. (in my opinion creating more wars for more profit robbing tax payers blind)

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It makes no sense, that the US & UK would wage war in Iraq, in a direct attempt to further the cause of our own corporate interest through oil, to then hand that production and exportation over to country's who had no involvement in the invasion at all?

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Sure it does if your corporations have got a feasible enough foothold in it to allow enough control on your end but keep the world markets and profits flowing smoothly and you'd like to save some face w "intentions of instilling democracy" . I would say the current of the US actions are more imperialistic than fascist

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qman said:

The US and Euro oil majors bailed out on the projects, they found getting their pipelines blown up in the middle of the night caused the return on investment to be unappealing.

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Bubbles85 said:

qman said:

The US and Euro oil majors bailed out on the projects, they found getting their pipelines blown up in the middle of the night caused the return on investment to be unappealing.

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Whats you're position qman? Do you feel that Blair and Bush went to war in Iraq, for the benefit of corporation?

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airclay said:

please explain how blairs party was pushing any sort of left wing economics? Even though you're half right on where the oil is going today you're still not understanding the left/right economic paradym. Any other reason you can list for the invasion of Iraq is pure militaristic and capitalistic in nature meaning that it is of 100% right wing ethos.

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Even though Blair’s New Labour
came to power on the basis of a social-democrat agenda which included redistributive social policies and expansionary economic policies, it seems that instead of reversing the neoliberal consensus of the time, New Labour under the  premiership of M. Blair actually maintained such consensus and mostly followed in the footsteps of its predecessors

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airclay said:

Qman you really don't get it either. You should do good read of what capitalism is and how it works. Clearly you're confusing economic policies w social policies as far as what's left and what's right. The tpp is purely a capitalistic endeavor it entirely supports corporations which only exist within capitalism. Again if you'll read my claim it is that all economics from any major party around the world in the last 20 years is purely right wing driven.

communism, socialism and other worker owned endeavors are left wing economically.

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“Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.”

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zappaisgod said:

http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/22/9-things-you-need-to-know-about-hamas-straight-from-its-charter/

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“Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.”

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Much more at the link.

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Tipote said:

haha i was just about to post this for you.

I notice you post the edited version.

they are a very hateful bunch of thugs and idiots. What they did was clearly provocative. They went in looking for a confrontation.

They would get a hell of a lot of abuse in whiter areas too. I would throw shit at them personally.

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airclay said:

Qman you really don't get it either. You should do good read of what capitalism is and how it works. Clearly you're confusing economic policies w social policies as far as what's left and what's right. The tpp is purely a capitalistic endeavor it entirely supports corporations which only exist within capitalism. Again if you'll read my claim it is that all economics from any major party around the world in the last 20 years is purely right wing driven.

communism, socialism and other worker owned endeavors are left wing economically.

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qman said:

Another day of "cultural diversity" heaven.

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Shins said:

airclay said:

Qman you really don't get it either. You should do good read of what capitalism is and how it works. Clearly you're confusing economic policies w social policies as far as what's left and what's right. The tpp is purely a capitalistic endeavor it entirely supports corporations which only exist within capitalism. Again if you'll read my claim it is that all economics from any major party around the world in the last 20 years is purely right wing driven.

communism, socialism and other worker owned endeavors are left wing economically.

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Everyone is wrong but you.

You've had 3 or 4 debates not with different people calling you out about your bullshit about left/right.

Maybe you should take that as a sign.

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qman said:

Another day of "cultural diversity" heaven.

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