viktor said:

So let's do a poll on how long it will take Europeans to start building gas chambers again on their horrifically overpopulated continent.

I say 20 years.

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There won't be any gas chambers going up in Europe. Stop coming out with rediculous bullshit

Bubbles85 said:

Tipote said:

Refugees were going to come anyway. Right wing policies have destroyed the middle east causing a refugee crisis in the first place. Merkel (centre-right) did invite some and you could probably get away with calling that left wing.

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Right wing policy has destroyed the middle east? Give me a fucking break. It was the labour party "a left wing" government, who invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, creating the refugee crisis. Until that point, there were no refugees and thanks to them there are now fucking millions of them.

Don't respond with some bullshit like "thats nothing compared to whats happening today" like you normally do.

Just because there were less people coming in the early 00's, does not some how make it irrelevant to toady's events.
The point is, is that this government are the ones who are responsibly, for the creation of the flow of people in the first place. It's just gotten worse and worse as the years have gone on.

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airclay said:

Bubbles85 said:

Tipote said:

Refugees were going to come anyway. Right wing policies have destroyed the middle east causing a refugee crisis in the first place. Merkel (centre-right) did invite some and you could probably get away with calling that left wing.

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Right wing policy has destroyed the middle east? Give me a fucking break. It was the labour party "a left wing" government, who invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, creating the refugee crisis. Until that point, there were no refugees and thanks to them there are now fucking millions of them.

Don't respond with some bullshit like "thats nothing compared to whats happening today" like you normally do.

Just because there were less people coming in the early 00's, does not some how make it irrelevant to toady's events.
The point is, is that this government are the ones who are responsibly, for the creation of the flow of people in the first place. It's just gotten worse and worse as the years have gone on.

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both the american and british govt have been pretty far right for a good while regardless of bullshit meta labels based on how someone feels about social welfare in the country.

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Quote:

Living Utopia (Original, 1997: Vivir la utopía. El anarquismo en España) is a documentary film by Juan Gamero. It consists of 30 interviews with surviving activists of the 1936--1939 Spanish Revolution, which are combined with visual materials such as manifestos, photographs, excerpts from film footage, portraits and flamenco music by El Cabrero and Paco del Gastor. The testimony of the anarcho-syndicalists and anarchist militants from the CNT-FAI revealing the constructive work of Anarchism in Spain, as well as the amazing educational and cultural activities which lead up to 1936. This workers' self-management meant as Gaston Leval comments in 'The Anarchist Collectives', Sam Dolgoff (ed.)

In the city's 3000 workplaces collectivised and 150 000 join the anarchist militias to fight fascism and the movement of the Mujeres Libres followed the idea of a "double struggle" for social revolution and women's liberation.

Interviewed anarcho-syndicalists/anarchist militants: Miguel Alba, Ramon Álvarez, Frederico Arcos, Marcelino Bailo, Maria Batet, Severio Campos, Francisco Carrasquer, Miguel Celma, Valerio Chiné; José Espana, Jose Fortea, Juan Giménez, Antonio Lahuerta, Concha Liano, Fidel Miró, Aurora Molina, Heleno Molina, Conxa Pérez, Suceso Portales, Dolores Prat, Ximo Queirol, Maravilla Rodríguez, Juan Romero, Manuel Sanz, Liberto Sarrau, José Sauces, José Serra Estruch, Antonio Turón, José Urzáiz and Antonio Zapata.

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Tipote said:

I'd rather have the muslims in my country than you.

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That's a degrading statement.

airclay said:

not labor but, cheap oil and general control over private property, yes.

To add as well the idea that the states involved are corporate oligarchies. Which isn't a purely leftist claim. Only furthers the idea that all of the destabilization of the middle east is capitalist and right wing in nature.

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airclay said:

refer to a couple post up, I'm not saying both parties are owned by the same entities (not immediately thru funding at least) per se, I'm saying that the majority worldview of economics from any major political party is right wing. These parties have all had a hand in the destabilization of the middle east for various capitalistic reasons.

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airclay said:

Repertoire89 said:

Hysterical...

I would say the refugees were let in to create a common enemy, to distract Europe from larger issues. The political establishment in Berlin and Brussels doesn't care about refugees, and I don't care if they consider themselves L or R.

The Far Right does appear to be on the rise, whatever that's worth.

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This might be the most intelligent stance on it I've read yet, even as a libtard myself I like it repertoire

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airclay said:

I'm saying that the majority worldview of economics from any major political party is right wing.

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Repertoire89 said:

airclay said:

Repertoire89 said:

Hysterical...

I would say the refugees were let in to create a common enemy, to distract Europe from larger issues. The political establishment in Berlin and Brussels doesn't care about refugees, and I don't care if they consider themselves L or R.

The Far Right does appear to be on the rise, whatever that's worth.

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This might be the most intelligent stance on it I've read yet, even as a libtard myself I like it repertoire

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Thank you, I don't have anything against Left or Right in general.

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airclay said:

not labor but, cheap oil and general control over private property, yes.

To add as well the idea that the states involved are corporate oligarchies. Which isn't a purely leftist claim. Only furthers the idea that all of the destabilization of the middle east is capitalist and right wing in nature.

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Icelander said:

Repertoire89 said:

airclay said:

Repertoire89 said:

Hysterical...

I would say the refugees were let in to create a common enemy, to distract Europe from larger issues. The political establishment in Berlin and Brussels doesn't care about refugees, and I don't care if they consider themselves L or R.

The Far Right does appear to be on the rise, whatever that's worth.

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This might be the most intelligent stance on it I've read yet, even as a libtard myself I like it repertoire

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Thank you, I don't have anything against Left or Right in general.

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I also agree.  A common enemy is always needed when the economy is in ruins to protect the ruling class from attack within the borders.  In other words to prevent revolution. The sad  part is in almost every case it works and unimaginable tragedy and suffering is the result.

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Bigbadwooof said:

I wanna be a fucking Jedi. Lets do this shit.

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Bubbles85 said:

Right wing policy has destroyed the middle east? Give me a fucking break. It was the labour party "a left wing" government, who invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, creating the refugee crisis. Until that point, there were no refugees and thanks to them there are now fucking millions of them.

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Quote:

Don't respond with some bullshit like "thats nothing compared to whats happening today" like you normally do.

Just because there were less people coming in the early 00's, does not some how make it irrelevant to toady's events.
The point is, is that this government are the ones who are responsibly, for the creation of the flow of people in the first place. It's just gotten worse and worse as the years have gone on.

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