airclay said:

Shins said:

airclay said:

nope you're simply wrong as the above links have shown.

and as an anarchist, your definition is very very far off from anything anarchistic I've personally been involved in.

Please visit http://1919hemphill.org/ and see what an anarchistic center looks like, I've volunteered here since 2003 and can vouch that there is nothing remotely right wing going on.

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The citations in your definitions are just two guys' opinions they wrote in their books


The above links shows a couple guys'opinions like yours
they did not prove me wrong in any way, like you didn't.


Right wing is about smaller government and free market capitalism.  There is no smaller government  than anarchism, and no freezer markets than in anarchism
  Anarchism is the extreme right.


Left wing is about larger government and command/control economies

Fascism is a form of statism, or big government, fascism also fommand and controls the economy.  These are left wing characteristics
  Communism and fascism are just two competing factions of lefism, you mostly only differ in social policy.  Both are opposed to right wing economy and free market capitalism

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and the fact that no anarchist thought aligns with what your saying won't sway you either I guess, but I guess you know more about anarchism than the fools that write about it or believe in furthering it's thought.

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Enlil said:

You aren't actually arguing that socialism includes the state owning labor, are you?

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Shins said:

Enlil said:

You aren't actually arguing that socialism includes the state owning labor, are you?

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Of course I am, by definition.

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Enlil said:

There can be no free market without a state.

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Shins said:

"Without authority" implies that no other person has authority over you, the individual.

It follows then that every transaction must be voluntary, because when no one has authority over another, you cannot force them to trade.

Voluntary trade is the foundation of capitalism, free markets, and right wing economy.

The only logically possible form of economy in anarchism is free market capitalism, otherwise one party must apply authoritive force on the other to force trade, and that is no longer anarchism.

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Shins said:

Enlil said:

There can be no free market without a state.

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That's why I struggle with the moral absolutism of Anarchism and go back and forth between believing in libertarianism (minarchism) and anarchism.  The idealist in me is anarchist, but the pragmatist in me is libertarian.

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airclay said:

lol please again for the however many times I've asked please present one source of right wing anarchism ideology? because I provide endless source of left wing anarchistic thought.

How do you refute that every historical anarchist revolution was leftist based? 

Do you have any idea what autonomous democracy is?

your simple understandings are laughable, it's very obvious that you may have read a lot but that doesn't quite mean you understood it.

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Enlil said:

Shins said:

Enlil said:

You aren't actually arguing that socialism includes the state owning labor, are you?

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Of course I am, by definition.

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Lol, okay.  Now I know you're trolling.  Ownership of human beings is not in any way a part of socialism.

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airclay said:

Shins said:

"Without authority" implies that no other person has authority over you, the individual.

It follows then that every transaction must be voluntary, because when no one has authority over another, you cannot force them to trade.

Voluntary trade is the foundation of capitalism, free markets, and right wing economy.

The only logically possible form of economy in anarchism is free market capitalism, otherwise one party must apply authoritive force on the other to force trade, and that is no longer anarchism.

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please look into what is know as lateral or horizontal authority.

and no the foundation of capitalism is owning capital which you can then use to exploit systems to gain more capital, a complete opposition to main components of anarchism.

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airclay said:

Shins said:

Enlil said:

There can be no free market without a state.

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That's why I struggle with the moral absolutism of Anarchism and go back and forth between believing in libertarianism (minarchism) and anarchism.  The idealist in me is anarchist, but the pragmatist in me is libertarian.

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maybe this can help you out, it's a great start for understanding autonomous democracy and the possibilities in the modern world. A full read would show how the tenents of anarchism you're aligning with your ideas of "free-market" are incorrect. http://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/murray-bookchin-libertarian-municipalism-an-overview

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