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Re: Ray Rice Wins Appeal: Reinstated back into NFL [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Mr Piggy said:
abltsandwich said:
Mr Piggy said:
How the fuck does the US government have a say in how a private company terminates it's employee?


Ever heard of anti-discrimination laws?


This in no way plays into discrimination.  This was straight up domestic abuse and assault.  I would even push it to say kidnapping, after dragging her all the way back to the room unconscious.


I never said the Ray Rice case had anything to do with discrimination.  I was answering your question.  The US Government has a say in how a private company terminates its employees in the sense that if a company fires a person based on discrimination, the US Government says that is not OK and it's punishable by law.

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Re: Ray Rice Wins Appeal: Reinstated back into NFL [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Spoken like a true hero. I'm sure you have earned the admiration of many "females" on this board by attempting to white knight for them so desperately. However, this isn't a women's rights issue and it shouldn't be. The man didn't have the right to knock out this women, same as if it were vice versa.

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Yes, I believe we as a nation should complain when things like this happen.


I agree that complaining is a perfectly reasonable way to deal with something that we disagree with.

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This man is a part of the NFL, and sports are worshiped in this country like a religion.


Stating his profession and projecting your mindset of how sports are viewed in this country have nothing to do with the law.


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Many young men and boys hold these guys up as an example and mimic their behavior.  If one of these men decides that knocking out women because of an argument is an okay way to operate, they should face repercussions so people understand that it is wrong.


I do not agree that someone should have to line up with your own personal moral criteria to properly perform their job of exploiting their athleticism. These "young men and boys" should very clearly understand that it is wrong because he was indicted of aggravated assault. Here's one thing the children should grow up to know, "you have to live up to the expectations of people you have never met before or else they will demand that your entire life be ruined rather than the lawful process of how these things are dealt with."

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When you make your living off of the public by performing for them and they decide that your behavior is not befitting someone in that position, it's time to go.


So now the Baltimore ravens are collectively owned by the public and the public can decide on staffing issues? :wonka: tell me more about this narcissistic fantasy land you live in

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don't get me wrong, I'm all for people minding their own business.


It's obvious this is false

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I preach it often about many issues, but not this.


You should practice what you preach, anything else is called being hypocritical.

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If people were to just "mind their own business" about domestic abuse against women, women would be in a lot worse of a spot than they are now, which still isn't that great.


Nah, if people minded there own business, domestic abusers would still be prosecuted according to the law like they always have been but not have the nations public opinion actually be a factor in a decision that determines their livelihood.

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They're not property or a junk yard dog.  Women are human beings and shouldn't have to live in fear of shit like this, or of people defending actions like this.


That was a rather abstract thing to say. No one had said they were property or a junk yard dog, so why bring it up? Women shouldn't live in fear of this(paranoia). They should live freely and not worry about it because if it happens, whoever does it will be prosecuted according to the law. No one is defending domestic abuse.


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Re: Ray Rice Wins Appeal: Reinstated back into NFL [Re: Webster10]
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The Green Bay Packers are the only public-owned NFL team anymore

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Re: Ray Rice Wins Appeal: Reinstated back into NFL [Re: D.M.T]
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/11/28/after-ray-rices-reinstatement-janay-rice-speaks-out-about-elevator-incident/

On the day of the incident Janay Rice now admits to being pissed off for not getting the Valentines Day she expected, getting drunk, trying to steal Ray Rices phone and then slapping him.

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Re: Ray Rice Wins Appeal: Reinstated back into NFL [Re: qman]
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:trololol:

It was only a matter of time before evidence like this surfaced.


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Re: Ray Rice Wins Appeal: Reinstated back into NFL [Re: cali4088]
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cali4088 said:
Mr Piggy said:
How the fuck does the US government have a say in how a private company terminates it's employee?  His behavior warranted his expulsion, the NFL decided so, shouldn't that be the end of it?


The NFL is NON-Profit, if they don't pay taxes they definitely listen to the Gov. and its laws and regulations on non-profit organizations

You cant pass judgment and penalty on someone, then turn around and make another harsher penalty even worse for the same offense, Its a form of double jeopardy and the gov has regulations against that.


This.:whathesaid: This was purely the only issue that the judge based her decision on. You simply can't punish the guy twice for the same infraction. Her decision was correct based on the criteria. All this means is that Rice can now pursue and try to resurrect his football career. The Colts have already shown some interest as Paganno remains a friend of Rice and they need a running back. The Ravens will not pursue him as Harbaugh wanted him fired when this first surfaced.
Basically, it is up to the integrity of the Owners as to when and if he will play and we all know that money outweighs integrity in the NFL. I look for him to be playing next season if he stays out of trouble. I, for one believe in second chances....Ray Rice did alot of good things for the Baltimore community and we all seem to overlook those good qualities based on one drunken stupid outburst. He does need to prove himself though by continuing to do good unselfish deeds which is why I wouldn't hire him at least until next season.


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Re: Ray Rice Wins Appeal: Reinstated back into NFL [Re: Thayendanegea]
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The question now is "Is anybody going to want him"?


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Re: Ray Rice Wins Appeal: Reinstated back into NFL [Re: plektheplek] * 1
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michael vick found a team

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Re: Ray Rice Wins Appeal: Reinstated back into NFL [Re: plektheplek]
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plektheplek said:
The question now is "Is anybody going to want him"?


For sure. I've been hearing the Colts are interested in him for their playoff run.

It was also said the Saints were showing interest, but it turned out to be just a rumor.

Shit. I would love to have him down here with the Dolphins, but there's no way they'd sign him after all the racist locker room controversy went down last year.


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mad to be saved,
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Re: Ray Rice Wins Appeal: Reinstated back into NFL [Re: kr0nik0]
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9 TDs and over 1,100 yards his rookie season. Someone will hire Ray Rice.

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Re: Ray Rice Wins Appeal: Reinstated back into NFL [Re: qman]
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qman said:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/11/28/after-ray-rices-reinstatement-janay-rice-speaks-out-about-elevator-incident/

On the day of the incident Janay Rice now admits to being pissed off for not getting the Valentines Day she expected, getting drunk, trying to steal Ray Rices phone and then slapping him.


She's just in it for the money and the D


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Re: Ray Rice Wins Appeal: Reinstated back into NFL [Re: D.M.T]
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D.M.T said:
9 TDs and over 1,100 yards his rookie season. Someone will hire Ray Rice.


Yeah, six years ago. He hasn't been very impressive lately.


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Re: Ray Rice Wins Appeal: Reinstated back into NFL [Re: D.M.T]
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D.M.T said:
9 TDs and over 1,100 yards his rookie season. Someone will hire Ray Rice.


Nope.
Rookie year was 2008. He had 0 TD's and 454 yards

He did have consecutive 1000+/ yard seasons from 09 to 2012.

Kind of fell off last year with 660 yards & 4 TD's.

He's getting old, but he's still a premiere RB with great hands. Like I said, I wouldn't mind having him on the Dolphins.


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“[...]the only people for me are the mad ones,
the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk,
mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”

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Re: Ray Rice Wins Appeal: Reinstated back into NFL [Re: kr0nik0]
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I meant 2012 not his rookie season. D'oh

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