twighead said:

Well. One could argue the parents are literally poisoning they're own children's health - something they have no say over - something they have no knowledge about themselves. All of that lies within the parents reign. Same reason you don't give kids drugs and alcohol - its harmful and they aren't developed enough to have a say for themselves on it. We don't allow murder in this country... obesity brought upon kids by parents is just a slow kill.

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twighead said:

Well. One could argue the parents are literally poisoning they're own children's health - something they have no say over - something they have no knowledge about themselves. All of that lies within the parents reign. Same reason you don't give kids drugs and alcohol - its harmful and they aren't developed enough to have a say for themselves on it. We don't allow murder in this country... obesity brought upon kids by parents is just a slow kill.

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Azure Essence said:

twighead said:

Well. One could argue the parents are literally poisoning they're own children's health - something they have no say over - something they have no knowledge about themselves. All of that lies within the parents reign. Same reason you don't give kids drugs and alcohol - its harmful and they aren't developed enough to have a say for themselves on it. We don't allow murder in this country... obesity brought upon kids by parents is just a slow kill.

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You're likely trying to talk sense into someone with an obese kid, or someone who was lead into obesity themselves by the very same bad parenting you speak of. Save your breath

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@ the fact trolling is your whole argument.

Webster10 said:

Azure Essence said:

twighead said:

Well. One could argue the parents are literally poisoning they're own children's health - something they have no say over - something they have no knowledge about themselves. All of that lies within the parents reign. Same reason you don't give kids drugs and alcohol - its harmful and they aren't developed enough to have a say for themselves on it. We don't allow murder in this country... obesity brought upon kids by parents is just a slow kill.

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You're likely trying to talk sense into someone with an obese kid, or someone who was lead into obesity themselves by the very same bad parenting you speak of. Save your breath

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@ the fact trolling is your whole argument.

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GODDAMNIT DONT TELL EVERYONE ELSE NOW THE JIG IS UP

Azure Essence said:

Obese person spotted.

Not flaming BTW, pointing out a physical characteristic isnt a flame, it's a fact.

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twighead said:

Really? Water vs obesity? That's stupid as fuck. Obesity is unhealthy as fuck in all cases. FACT. Kids may know things are unhealthy for them but kids under our legal system are not considered fit of judgement to make their own heavily life altering decisions - that's up to the parents.

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Yup, water vs obesity is the real argument here

Many things lead people to a slow death. As a parent, one should do their best to protect their kids from all of these factors. However, is a sweeping law that incriminates anyone with a child who has an over-average BMI the real answer to obesity? If you think yes, you have problems. So now kids shouldn't be able to decide their own diet? It sounds like you hate freedom. You won't do so well in life if you live in America.

jahrastafareye said:

Azure Essence said:

Obese person spotted.

Not flaming BTW, pointing out a physical characteristic isnt a flame, it's a fact.

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So if I said that I had no problem with gay marriage, your response would be " Gay person spotted."

haha you're welcome to your opinions , but jumping to conclusions about people from a single post is seriously not cool.

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twighead said:

Well. One could argue the parents are literally poisoning their own children's health - something the kids have no say over - something they have no knowledge about themselves. All of that lies within the parents reign. Same reason you don't give kids drugs and alcohol - its harmful and they aren't developed enough to have a say for themselves on it. We don't allow murder in this country... obesity brought upon kids by parents is just a slow kill.

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Euphie said:

twighead said:

Well. One could argue the parents are literally poisoning their own children's health - something the kids have no say over - something they have no knowledge about themselves. All of that lies within the parents reign. Same reason you don't give kids drugs and alcohol - its harmful and they aren't developed enough to have a say for themselves on it. We don't allow murder in this country... obesity brought upon kids by parents is just a slow kill.

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QFT. Should've ended here. If you can't educate and your child properly, parenting isn't your gig. You would think they would just naturally care enough...

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If you can't educate and... what a child properly?

So you are assuming all obese children are uneducated? That's a pretty hefty assumption. One so hefty that I'm going to need some studies to back it up before I believe it.

Parents that let their child get obese aren't caring parents?

Wouldn't you say that a caring parents want their children to be happy? I would.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/493981-eating-induced-endorphins/

Please give me a detailed outline of this law that should be passed. The one where anyone with an obese child is guilty of child abuse

maggotz said:

man, you are annoying as fuck. goddamn.

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Lol I can't tell if he's trolling. I get the freedom side, but his actual arguments don't make sense.

Azure Essence said:

gay person spotted

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I like guns so = republican spotted ?
I support increasing minimum wage so = poor person spotted?

I wish the world were as simple as you seem to think it is/

Euphie said:

Treat the child properly.
If the parent cannot teach the child about nutrition and how to take care of themselves on the inside, that's the same as neglecting to teach them to bathe. Not learning to treat themselves properly on the outside. A lot of kids hate baths, should the parent choose the child's happiness over taking care of the child? No that's called neglect and it should be the same for keeping the internal organs clean and maintained as well. Not to say they NEVER get soda of sweets of junk food, just properly moderated and given the proper education about it so they can make their own choices based on fact when they become an adult. Children don't know yet.

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I don't know about you, but I got taught about nutrition in physical education class as young as 5 years old in kindergarten. If someone chooses to overeat, that is their prerogative.

I ask why should someone be able to impose their morals on someone else when the issue in question is a victim less phenomenon?
    -The answer being they take up more space on an air plane.

I ask what exactly the law should be that incriminates parents with obese children?
    -The answer has yet to be given.

And my argument doesn't make sense? oh man

Seriously I'd just love some elaboration on this law. I'd also like to point out that imposing your own moral compass on someones else. Why do you believed you are entitled to do this?

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man, you are annoying as fuck. goddamn.

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"Let me just flame you while presenting no explanation on my own views"

maggotz said:

i'm sure he thinks he's great at arguing.

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