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Anonymous #1

Ordering glassware from ebay
    #18932099 - 10/04/13 04:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So I want to order a boiling flask for a halloween mad scientist party. I already have several small plastic beakers for drinking glasses and I have an old condenser and a big pyrex beaker . I was going to to put some dy ice and food coloring in it throughout the night to create a spooky effect. My problem is I want to buy a boiling flask and possibly erlenmeyer flask to decorate another room. I tried ordering from amazon but because I live in Texas they can't ship to ke without a license or something. Anyway they refunded my money but now I'm a week behind schedule and I really want this party to be perfect. I was thinking of ordering from ebay but I want to know if I am in danger of another company refusing to ship it. Also does it matter whether it is shipped fom the US or Overseas? Thanks for the help I juwt think its stupid they limit something so harmless


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Anonymous #2

Re: Ordering glassware from ebay [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18932112 - 10/04/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ordering from ebay should be fine, but I'm not familiar with texas law. I thought glassware was watched but perfectly legal.


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Anonymous #3

Re: Ordering glassware from ebay [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #18932142 - 10/04/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Texas it the only state that regulates glassware. They require you to register it. I assume this is because of the big meth problem down there.

Chinese glass sellers on ebay will ship to you regardless, they don't care. Their glass is usually mediocre quality and may or may not get to you in time.

Legitimate lab glass companies probably won't ship to you since they have to deal with legal stuff all the time.

Individual sellers/resellers shouldn't be an issue for new glass.

People selling used glass probably don't know/care so that will probably be your best option.

If you want to find out if they will ship to you before you pay and without directly asking them, order multiple items from the same seller and send them a message asking what the combined shipping fee will be to your TX address. If they won't ship to you they will let you know so you can avoid sending them the payment in the first place and this avoids you asking "will you ship to TX" directly.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Ordering glassware from ebay [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #18932182 - 10/04/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks a bunch that is exactly what I wanted to know. I'm not worried about quality as I really am just using it for decorations, TX doesn't care though so I want to be careful. Thanks for the advice ill do my research now.


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Anonymous #3

Re: Ordering glassware from ebay [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18932813 - 10/04/13 07:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Also something to be careful with international orders would be the fact I don't know what US customs office they would come into for you. A small amount of international packages get opened by customs. Glassware isn't an issue since its legal and they don't really care. However if the package comes into an office in TX where they know the law better it *could* cause issues maybe?

I would probably avoid ordering from overseas just to be safe. No sense in risking getting in trouble for something you aren't actually going ot use.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Ordering glassware from ebay [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #18933936 - 10/04/13 11:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Op, i am a texan and recently ordered a distillation kit from eBay.. am i missing something?


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Anonymous #4

Re: Ordering glassware from ebay [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #18933939 - 10/04/13 11:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

And i ordered from a US based supplier


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Anonymous #3

Re: Ordering glassware from ebay [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #18934841 - 10/05/13 05:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If they will ship to you then it shouldn't be an issue. Texas just regulates lab glass. Legitimate glassware manufacturers know the law and won't ship there. A lot of ebay sellers don't. Most ebay sellers are actually resellers of glass. The only manufacturer I know that sells directly on ebay is UGT and they are actually based in TX and won't sell to you.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Ordering glassware from ebay [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #18935634 - 10/05/13 10:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah that makes sense because I tried to buy fom amazon from a houston company because it was close to home and they refusee me. I'm glad to hear that about ebay though becaue the shipping on that chinese stuff takes 2 or 3 weeks at least. Thanks for the help everyone


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Anonymous #4

Re: Ordering glassware from ebay [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #18935715 - 10/05/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

China is a shitty manufacturer anyways.  Never buy from China just because


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Anonymous #5

Re: Ordering glassware from ebay [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #18937866 - 10/05/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

ordering small beakers and glassware is totally chill. They watch things that are bigger, directly involved in drug synthesis, and of course reagents. Ordering a beaker set is no more suspicious then buying a chemistry kit for your kid..


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Anonymous #4

Re: Ordering glassware from ebay [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #18938390 - 10/05/13 11:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

They have entire organic chemistry sets.  Pay 200-300$ and get beaker, funnel, distillation,  pretty much the whole shibang..  i wouldn't see why that would be suspicious seeing how there are legit uses and college students buying it all the time. I'm sure if it were that bad it wouldn't be available on eBay at all.  Id be more worried about precursor chemicals more than anything else


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Anonymous #6

Re: Ordering glassware from ebay [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #18941692 - 10/06/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

AFIK texas only regulates larger glassware apparatus greater than 20L and 3 neck reaction flasks.


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Anonymous #3

Re: Ordering glassware from ebay [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #18943083 - 10/07/13 01:07 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Flask over 20L are regulated by the feds, not just Texas. (I actually think it is over 12L but could be wrong on that)

Texas requires you register all glassware in the state, regardless of size.

hxxp://www.txdps.state.tx.us/regulatoryservices/narcotics/narcprecursor.htm

Quote:

"Chemical laboratory apparatus" means any item of equipment designed, made, or adapted to manufacture a controlled substance or a controlled substance analogue, including:

(A)  a condenser
(B)  a distilling apparatus
(C)  a vacuum drier
(D)  a three-neck or distilling flask
(E)  a tableting machine
(F)  an encapsulating machine
(G)  a filter, Buchner, or separatory funnel
(H)  an Erlenmeyer, two-neck, or single-neck flask
(I)  a round-bottom, Florence, thermometer, or filtering flask
(J)  a Soxhlet extractor
(K)  a transformer
(L)  a flask heater
(M)  a heating mantel  or
(N)  an adaptor tube




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Generally, a person or business in this state must obtain a permit to take or place an order or to deliver or receive a precursor chemical or laboratory apparatus. The Department issues two types of permits for regulated precursor chemicals or laboratory apparatus (glassware), one to legitimate businesses (NAR-121), and the other for one-time transactions (NAR-120) where the items will be used solely for legitimate purposes.




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Anonymous #4

Re: Ordering glassware from ebay [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #18945002 - 10/07/13 02:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

IDK then, cause i had no trouble ordering glass in Texas off eBay and didnt have to fill out any kinda registration (besides my ebay account). I bought a decent quality distillation kit and have bought seperatory funnels in the past, no problem.  planning on getting flask sets in the future and chromotography column/s. Amazon has some interesting finds too :wink:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18604866#18604866


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Anonymous #3

Re: Ordering glassware from ebay [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #18945515 - 10/07/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Did you actually read my previous posts in this thread?

Individual sellers arne't familiar with specific laws and/or don't care. The only people that would ever care are larger glassware companies that actually deal with those laws daily.

Also if you read the OP he did order off amazon and they were the ones that told him he couldn't order from TX. That specific seller was actually in TX so I'm sure that is why they were familiar with it.


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