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What are narc dogs trained to detect to find cocaine?
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"Raw cocaine on its own has virtually no smell to a human nose, while it's the solvents with which it's made that cause it to smell as much as it does, with the longer its been sitting in solvent meaning the stronger the smell. Different coke also smells different depending on solvents used. Cuts also play a role, but solvent is the bigger factor."

Anyone know what dogs are actually detecting regarding coke? It could be that they are trained to alert on the detection of various chemicals. But maybe, since they're likely trained using confiscated coke, and not clean and virtually-odorless coke, that it's everything in the mixture, and maybe raw coke is much more detectable to them. I'm just curious.

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Re: What are narc dogs trained to detect to find cocaine? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Well yeah, it emphasizes that raw coke is hard to detect to a human nose.

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Re: What are narc dogs trained to detect to find cocaine? [Re: Anonymous #2]
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The quotes are really just decoration.

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Re: What are narc dogs trained to detect to find cocaine? [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Narc dogs are trained to detect the directions of their handler, it's amazing how well their senses alert to the slightest suspicions of law enforcement personell.

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Re: What are narc dogs trained to detect to find cocaine? [Re: Anonymous #3]
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they are smelling the cocaine.  they stuff dog toys with drugs so they think they are finding their toy. they associate the smell with the toy and when they smell it, try to get to it

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Re: What are narc dogs trained to detect to find cocaine? [Re: Anonymous #4]
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Cocaine does have a smell. It's not the solvent. That's fucking retarded. If the solvent were giving it a smell, it would be wet.

Drug dogs are trained to smell cocaine, because cocaine has a smell. That article you quoted is complete horse shit.

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Re: What are narc dogs trained to detect to find cocaine? [Re: Anonymous #5]
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Raw cocaine on its own has virtually no smell to a human nose



Dogs aren't humans.

Come on now, lets at least try to not be retarded.

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Re: What are narc dogs trained to detect to find cocaine? [Re: Anonymous #6]
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I already did in asking the question, now you follow. Think. If the prominent smell in a package is something other than the cocaine, how is it determined that a dog will not be more sensitive to identifying the other sources of odor than the cocaine?

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Re: What are narc dogs trained to detect to find cocaine? [Re: Anonymous #5]
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Anonymous #5 said:
Cocaine does have a smell. It's not the solvent. That's fucking retarded. If the solvent were giving it a smell, it would be wet.




That is the dumbest thing in this thread. "If it's solvent, it would be wet"? Ok. You know as any crystalline material forms, stuff can be trapped in the crystals, right?

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Re: What are narc dogs trained to detect to find cocaine? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous #1 said:
Anonymous #5 said:
Cocaine does have a smell. It's not the solvent. That's fucking retarded. If the solvent were giving it a smell, it would be wet.




That is the dumbest thing in this thread. "If it's solvent, it would be wet"? Ok. You know as any crystalline material forms, stuff can be trapped in the crystals, right?



Yep. And I still know that you're not gonna have enough in those crystals to smell it. It's trapped, remember? Have you ever smelled ether, toluene or kerosene (the main solvents used in cocaine production)? None of those smell anything like the way good cocaine smells.

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Re: What are narc dogs trained to detect to find cocaine? [Re: Anonymous #5]
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But can they sniff DMT? now thats my question, yeh it has a strong smell but have dogs actually been trained to sniff it out? i mean it is not recreational enough.

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Re: What are narc dogs trained to detect to find cocaine? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous #1 said:
I already did in asking the question, now you follow. Think. If the prominent smell in a package is something other than the cocaine, how is it determined that a dog will not be more sensitive to identifying the other sources of odor than the cocaine?



Have you ever heard that dogs have a good sense of smell?

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Smell

While the human brain is dominated by a large visual cortex, the dog brain is dominated by an olfactory cortex.[113] The olfactory bulb in dogs is roughly forty times bigger than the olfactory bulb in humans, relative to total brain size, with 125 to 220 million smell-sensitive receptors.[113] The bloodhound exceeds this standard with nearly 300 million receptors.[113]
Consequently, it has been estimated that dogs, in general, have an olfactory sense ranging from one hundred thousand to one million times more sensitive than a human's. In some dog breeds, such as bloodhounds, the olfactory sense may be up to 100 million times greater than a human's.[127] The wet nose, or rhinarium, is essential for determining the direction of the air current containing the smell. Cold receptors in the skin are sensitive to the cooling of the skin by evaporation of the moisture by air currents



How did you even not know about this? :huxleyfacepalm:

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Re: What are narc dogs trained to detect to find cocaine? [Re: Anonymous #8]
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In case you missed it, cocaine has a smell that can be detected by dogs and that's what they train dogs to track down.

Even if solvents or additives were mixed in with the confiscated coke, it could be recrystallized with deionized water to eliminate the solvents. I really doubt police just grab rocks from crackheads and stuff them into toys. I would guess the drugs they use in training are highly purified by people who know what they're doing.

If you're asking this question out of practical considerations I recommend you forget about whatever it is you were doing and go back to school instead.

Edited by Anonymous (08/20/13 08:22 PM)

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Re: What are narc dogs trained to detect to find cocaine? [Re: Anonymous #8]
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Cops don't get special drugs to train dogs with. They use what they confiscate from people. The idea of them having an entire lab set up to train some dogs is ridiculous.

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Re: What are narc dogs trained to detect to find cocaine? [Re: Anonymous #5]
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Anonymous #5 said:
Cops don't get special drugs to train dogs with. They use what they confiscate from people. The idea of them having an entire lab set up to train some dogs is ridiculous.



This was exactly what I was gonna say but you said it first

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Re: What are narc dogs trained to detect to find cocaine? [Re: Anonymous #5]
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Anonymous #5 said:
Cops don't get special drugs to train dogs with. They use what they confiscate from people. The idea of them having an entire lab set up to train some dogs is ridiculous.



Actually, I just looked it up, it turns out the dogs are trained by independent agencies licensed by the DEA to get their drugs from special pharmacies.

Training police dogs with shit picked up from drifters... this thread is so retarded. I'm ashamed to be involved with it. :huxleyfacepalm:

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Re: What are narc dogs trained to detect to find cocaine? [Re: Anonymous #8]
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The dogs are just addicted to the drugs so they are essentially fiends who need a fix when they find the drugs on the people the cops give them a registerd fix at the station. thats why dogs are so good at finding them.

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Re: What are narc dogs trained to detect to find cocaine? [Re: Anonymous #8]
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Anonymous #8 said:
Anonymous #1 said:
I already did in asking the question, now you follow. Think. If the prominent smell in a package is something other than the cocaine, how is it determined that a dog will not be more sensitive to identifying the other sources of odor than the cocaine?



Have you ever heard that dogs have a good sense of smell?

Quote:
Smell

While the human brain is dominated by a large visual cortex, the dog brain is dominated by an olfactory cortex.[113] The olfactory bulb in dogs is roughly forty times bigger than the olfactory bulb in humans, relative to total brain size, with 125 to 220 million smell-sensitive receptors.[113] The bloodhound exceeds this standard with nearly 300 million receptors.[113]
Consequently, it has been estimated that dogs, in general, have an olfactory sense ranging from one hundred thousand to one million times more sensitive than a human's. In some dog breeds, such as bloodhounds, the olfactory sense may be up to 100 million times greater than a human's.[127] The wet nose, or rhinarium, is essential for determining the direction of the air current containing the smell. Cold receptors in the skin are sensitive to the cooling of the skin by evaporation of the moisture by air currents



How did you even not know about this? :huxleyfacepalm:



I did, don't know why you thought you could assume otherwise. This doesn't address the question. Silly answer. A dog enters a room. There is the strong smell of solvent coming from one side, and some not-so-smelling cocaine on the other. Where will that dog go?

Anonymous #5 said:
Yep. And I still know that you're not gonna have enough in those crystals to smell it. It's trapped, remember? Have you ever smelled ether, toluene or kerosene (the main solvents used in cocaine production)? None of those smell anything like the way good cocaine smells.



You're not knowing what you're talking about here. The smell of cocaine is mostly solvent. Yes, cocaine does sometimes smell like toluene. No, cocaine never smells like kerosene, because it isn't crystallized in kerosene. It can have a smell of acetone, other solvent, or a mixture, and the other thing that contributes to its smell is whatever it might be cut with. Good cocaine that smells, to humans, mostly only does so because of the other stuff it's been introduced to. Take some of your good cocaine, put it in a container along with acetone, toluene, or whatever, and let it sit for many hours, then dry it. I think you'll feel at least a bit noxious when putting it into your nose. Since you're sure that cocaine doesn't smell like solvent, it's no risk for you.

Anonymous #10 said:
The dogs are just addicted to the drugs so they are essentially fiends who need a fix when they find the drugs on the people the cops give them a registerd fix at the station. thats why dogs are so good at finding them.



Is this true? That actually makes sense. They'd be familiar with the odor of coke being desirable to them, so they'd single it out from sources of smell that don't contain that element.

Edited by Anonymous (08/21/13 04:40 AM)

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