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Why do mimosa hostilis vendors risk it?
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It seems so easy for law enforcement to charge them with huge distribution crimes that could result with lifetime sentences.  They operate openly on the internet and their emails, their payments, and their mail tracking seem perfectly set up for a slam dunk case that could net them life in prison.  Saying mimosa hostilis is legal or that DMT is in your head seem damn flimsy when prosecution would show that MHRB is used overwhelmingly for drug extraction.  That defense is laughable.  Do you think these vendors get legal advice before embarking on the business?  Or are they just short-sighted and risk-takers?

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Re: Why do mimosa hostilis vendors risk it? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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The onus is on the extractors.  The LEO already failed to take down BB if I'm not mistaken.  The law would have to be changed to actually make the plant illegal, akin to marijuana.

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Re: Why do mimosa hostilis vendors risk it? [Re: Anonymous #2]
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The FDA raided Bouncing Bear and they dropped the charges but confiscated all his product and his money.  If it were the DEA, I think it would have ended differently with the owner in jail for life.  The charges against him were serious and imagine it went to trial.  Do you imagine a jury believing the defense attorney when they say all his cactus, mimosa hostilis, psychotria viridis, and chaliponga was for dye purposes and should be considered perfectly legal?  Or would they be compelled to accept these dried plant materials were sold as drugs?  It seems cut and dry to me.

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Re: Why do mimosa hostilis vendors risk it? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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because some things in life are more important than personal freedoms

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Re: Why do mimosa hostilis vendors risk it? [Re: Anonymous #3]
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I remember talking to a vendor a while back and he told me that the universe and the spirits watch out for him.  Maybe these guys are actually nuts.

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Re: Why do mimosa hostilis vendors risk it? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous #1 said:
Do you imagine a jury believing the defense attorney when they say all his cactus, mimosa hostilis, psychotria viridis, and chaliponga was for dye purposes and should be considered perfectly legal? Or would they be compelled to accept these dried plant materials were sold as drugs?  It seems cut and dry to me.


If they can't prove you were extracting then it is not cut and dry.
Every person with a gun is a murderer? Using your logic, that would also be cut and dry.

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Re: Why do mimosa hostilis vendors risk it? [Re: Anonymous #4]
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Anonymous #4 said:
Anonymous #1 said:
Do you imagine a jury believing the defense attorney when they say all his cactus, mimosa hostilis, psychotria viridis, and chaliponga was for dye purposes and should be considered perfectly legal? Or would they be compelled to accept these dried plant materials were sold as drugs?  It seems cut and dry to me.


If they can't prove you were extracting then it is not cut and dry.
Every person with a gun is a murderer? Using your logic, that would also be cut and dry.


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Re: Why do mimosa hostilis vendors risk it? [Re: Anonymous #3]
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Anonymous #3 said:
because some things in life are more important than personal freedoms


:yesnod::thumbup:

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Re: Why do mimosa hostilis vendors risk it? [Re: Anonymous #5]
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Because you can make a lot of money selling bark for $80-$120+/kg

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Re: Why do mimosa hostilis vendors risk it? [Re: Anonymous #4]
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Anonymous #4 said:
Anonymous #1 said:
Do you imagine a jury believing the defense attorney when they say all his cactus, mimosa hostilis, psychotria viridis, and chaliponga was for dye purposes and should be considered perfectly legal? Or would they be compelled to accept these dried plant materials were sold as drugs?  It seems cut and dry to me.


If they can't prove you were extracting then it is not cut and dry.
Every person with a gun is a murderer? Using your logic, that would also be cut and dry.



From the horses mouth: 

United States Controlled Substance Act

(c) Unless specifically excepted or unless listed in another
schedule, any material, compound, mixture, or preparation, which
contains any quantity of the following hallucinogenic substances,
or which contains any of their salts, isomers, and salts of isomers
whenever the existence of such salts, isomers, and salts of isomers
is possible within the specific chemical designation:
(1) 3,4-methylenedioxy amphetamine.
(2) 5-methoxy-3,4-methylenedioxy amphetamine.
(3) 3,4,5-trimethoxy amphetamine.
(4) Bufotenine.
(5) Diethyltryptamine.
(6) Dimethyltryptamine.

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Re: Why do mimosa hostilis vendors risk it? [Re: Anonymous #3]
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Anonymous #3 said:
because some things in life are more important than personal freedoms


Money - I hope you aren't under some delusion that they are spreading the love.

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Re: Why do mimosa hostilis vendors risk it? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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BB is still awaiting a rulling in civil court in Kansas which is why they aren't selling bark :frown:  I emailed him a month ago and he said they have been taking 6 months to rule on it.  Its under the Stamp act he is being prosecuted so the burden of proof is on him not the state :frown:  we'll see how it plays out.

Alan SHoemaker was able to get out of trouble for importing Chacruna but I think he stopped after going through that nightmare.

Sell 30 kilos a week and you make something like 75k a year... LOL definately spreading love but there seems to be more going on than meets the eye hahaha.

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Re: Why do mimosa hostilis vendors risk it? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous #1 said:
It seems so easy for law enforcement to charge them with huge distribution crimes that could result with lifetime sentences.  They operate openly on the internet and their emails, their payments, and their mail tracking seem perfectly set up for a slam dunk case that could net them life in prison.  Saying mimosa hostilis is legal or that DMT is in your head seem damn flimsy when prosecution would show that MHRB is used overwhelmingly for drug extraction.  That defense is laughable.  Do you think these vendors get legal advice before embarking on the business?  Or are they just short-sighted and risk-takers?


$$$$$$$

Why do crack dealers risk it?

$$$$$$$$$$

Why do poor kids from the ghetto join the Army?

$$$$$$$

Why do I work in an office when I'd rather be climbing mountains?

$$$$$$


It's for the money kid. You'll realize it when you get in to the real world.

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Re: Why do mimosa hostilis vendors risk it? [Re: Anonymous #9]
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What a stupid fucking question.

I'm not even going to answer it. FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF YOU DUMB FUCK

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Re: Why do mimosa hostilis vendors risk it? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous #1 said:
I remember talking to a vendor a while back and he told me that the universe and the spirits watch out for him.  Maybe these guys are actually nuts.


that's possible.  they also might think, "i'm not doing anything illegal.  it's a legal plant."

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Re: Why do mimosa hostilis vendors risk it? [Re: Anonymous #11]
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I emailed some website, curious as I seen they had ayahuasca vines and shit, i asked if it was legal to ship this stuff...

They responded with 'everything on our site is organic and legal in the US'

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Re: Why do mimosa hostilis vendors risk it? [Re: Anonymous #12]
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anon 11 is a fagbag piece of shit who has never and will never get vagina, or yet alone the love of a woman.

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Re: Why do mimosa hostilis vendors risk it? [Re: Anonymous #13]
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Anonymous #13 said:
anon 11 is a fagbag piece of shit who has never and will never get vagina, or yet alone the love of a woman.


sounds like someone rejected you pretty hardcore once.

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