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Re: WILL THIS WORK????????????????????
    #13913 - 04/24/00 12:15 AM (24 years, 5 months ago)

don't cross post, this has been posted in advanced cultivation as well...

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Re: WILL THIS WORK???????????????????? [Re: vivid]
    #13915 - 04/24/00 04:58 PM (24 years, 5 months ago)

Can Someone Help me, I cross posted this because no one was answering in advanced mushroom cultivation so please help me!!!!

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Re: WILL THIS WORK???????????????????? [Re: vivid]
    #13916 - 04/24/00 05:59 PM (24 years, 5 months ago)

I wouldnt bet my life on it, considering im sort of a newbie, but this is my advice.

if you did try that you'd definately need to sterlize the mixture and i dont know how you would get the chunks of the pf cake in there without outside/contaminated air getting to the substrate. The problem is the brown rice flour. It contaminates very easily. If you had a syringe with a wide enough needle, you could grind up your cake in a sterile coffee grinder, add distilled sterlile water then suck into a steile syringe to make a mycelium syringe. Then you could innoculate your mixture through a small hole(s). Squirt the entire syringe in to get faster results. The hardest part about all this is sterlility.
Agian..i'd get a second opinion.
Anyone?


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Re: WILL THIS WORK???????????????????? [Re: vivid]
    #13917 - 04/25/00 10:51 AM (24 years, 5 months ago)

If I mix brown rice flour and verm (steril), put it in a tray, and have a hole cake in the middle coved with the mixter,(or grind up the cake and put it in a needle like you said) and put potting soil on top of the mixter would that work.????

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Re: WILL THIS WORK???????????????????? [Re: vivid]
    #13918 - 04/25/00 04:55 PM (24 years, 5 months ago)

What exactly are you trying to do? Innoculate more substrate or do a casing? If your doing a casing it is supposed to be completely non-nutrative, meaning NO brown rice flour, JUST vermiculite, and/or peat moss. You probably could case on potting soil, but i havent heard of doing that.

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Re: WILL THIS WORK???????????????????? [Re: vivid]
    #13919 - 04/25/00 11:51 PM (24 years, 5 months ago)

The answer to your question is no. From reading your post I gather that you are trying to case your cake. Do this step by step, and you should not have any trouble.
1) Clean out your tupperware container very good with antibacterial soap.
2) Sprinkle a thin layer of vermiculite on the bottom of the container.
3)Break up your cake and place on top of the verm layer.
4) Take a clean cup and fill it up with vermiculite.
5) Pour bottled water into cup with verm.
6) Mix in water until you can squeeze a portion in your hand and it stays together lightly.
7) Sprinkle this damp vermiculite in a thin even layer across broken up cake.
8) Wrap a piece of aluminum foil around cake container.
9) Take a very clean tupperware container a little larger than your container holding your broken up cake and place over your cake container to form a growing chamber.
10) Place near a light for atleast an hour a day but four is very good.
11) Take lid off twice a day and fan the casing lightly to air it out.
12) If sides of growing chamber are dry, spray the sides with a water bottle. It will condensate and help keep humidity high.
The reason why you dont want to use BRF in the casing is because it is too much of a food. Bad molds and germs love that. The only ways I have seen of mixing a fod type substrate in with the casing are straw and dung, but you still most of the time want to at least pasturize them.

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