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Hurricane season and the Gulf oil spill
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How will hurricane season effect the oil spill?  Will it pick up the oil and spread it all over Louisiana and Florida and make this disaster much worse? 











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Re: Hurricane season and the Gulf oil spill [Re: Learyfan]
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It's hard to say really, because nothing like this has ever really happened before. Things like frogs and small fish are known to have been picked up by hurricanes and dropped on land during the storm, so I don't think it's too outlandish to assume that oil will likely be carried up into the atmosphere with the warm waters of the gulf.

All I do know is I'm definitely staying indoors for the next hurricane. :lol:


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Re: Hurricane season and the Gulf oil spill [Re: blewmeanie]
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There's this thing called a storm surge.

If a hurricane can throw a 25 foot wall of water onto the shore, it WILL bring oil with it. As far as the wind goes, I don't know.

This is the map of the spill on June 12



Here is the storm surge of Katrina


It's funny how the green areas are kind of identical, the oil maybe a little bit more East.

God help BP and the government (Army corps of Engineers) if (or when) the levees break in Nola again.


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Re: Hurricane season and the Gulf oil spill [Re: Arcanum]
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This was just posted in another thread, and it is extrememly relevant to what I just said so:


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Re: Hurricane season and the Gulf oil spill [Re: Learyfan]
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Another scary thing to consider is not the oil itself, but what they've been using to try and clean up the oil.

Russian scientists predict toxic rain from BP Oil Dispersants

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A dire report prepared for President Medvedev by Russia’s Ministry of Natural Resources is warning today that the British Petroleum (BP) oil and gas leak in the Gulf of Mexico is about to become the worst environmental catastrophe in all of human history threatening the entire eastern half of the North American continent with “total destruction”.

Russian scientists are basing their apocalyptic destruction assessment due to BP’s use of millions of gallons of the chemical dispersal agent known as Corexit 9500 which is being pumped directly into the leak of this wellhead over a mile under the Gulf of Mexico waters and designed, this report says, to keep hidden from the American public the full, and tragic, extent of this leak that is now estimated to be over 2.9 million gallons a day.

The dispersal agent Corexit 9500 is a solvent originally developed by Exxon and now manufactured by the Nalco Holding Company of Naperville, Illinois that is four times more toxic than oil (oil is toxic at 11 ppm (parts per million), Corexit 9500 at only 2.61ppm). In a report written by Anita George-Ares and James R. Clark for Exxon Biomedical Sciences, Inc. titled “Acute Aquatic Toxicity of Three Corexit Products: An Overview” Corexit 9500 was found to be one of the most toxic dispersal agents ever developed. Even worse, according to this report, with higher water temperatures, like those now occurring in the Gulf of Mexico, its toxicity grows.

The United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) in discovering BP’s use of this dangerous dispersal agent ordered BP to stop using it, but BP refused stating that their only alternative to Corexit 9500 was an even more dangerous dispersal agent known as Sea Brat 4.

The main differences between Corexit 9500 and Sea Brat 4 lie in how long these dangerous chemicals take to degrade into their constituent organic compounds, which for Corexit 9500 is 28 days. Sea Brat 4, on the other hand, degrades into an organic chemical called Nonylphenol that is toxic to aquatic life and can persist in the environment for years.

A greater danger involving Corexit 9500, and as outlined by Russian scientists in this report, is that with its 2.61ppm toxicity level, and when combined with the heating Gulf of Mexico waters, its molecules will be able to “phase transition” from their present liquid to a gaseous state allowing them to be absorbed into clouds and allowing their release as “toxic rain” upon all of Eastern North America.

Even worse, should a Katrina like tropical hurricane form in the Gulf of Mexico while tens of millions of gallons of Corexit 9500 are sitting on, or near, its surface the resulting “toxic rain” falling upon the North American continent could“theoretically” destroy all microbial life to any depth it reaches resulting in an “unimaginable environmental catastrophe” destroying all life forms from the “bottom of the evolutionary chart to the top”.




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Re: Hurricane season and the Gulf oil spill [Re: Adamist]
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Wait wut?

2.9 MILLION barrels a day? And they are using a cleaning solvent that is even MORE toxic than said oil?

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Re: Hurricane season and the Gulf oil spill [Re: Adamist]
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Adamist said:
Another scary thing to consider is not the oil itself, but what they've been using to try and clean up the oil.




Exactly right. They have been experimenting with using oil degrading bacteria which involves introducing non-indigent life forms (bacteria) and fertilizers to speed that up.

What PISSES me off, is that for what little NOAA is saying about hurricanes and the oil, they are saying a hurricane will HELP ACCELERATE biodegredation. For one, biodegredation takes 3-5 years... in controlled, HIGHLY concentrated amounts of bacteria and FERTILIZER, both of which could wreak havoc on the ecosystem if it were to be spread out all over the coast. Second of all, in the context that they used the word, "biodegredation," it would be an incorrect usage of the prefix "bio" because what they were mentioning had NOTHING to do with any living organisms breaking down bacteria.

On a lighter note, this is the best I could do in 20-30 minutes:
From the comic I just posted,
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James Carville emerges from the conflagration riding a burning alligator.





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