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Destroying America
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Former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm presented a speech at an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, suggesting eight methods to destroy America. Lamm argued that America's success in multiculturalism and diversity is a curse for society, as it leads to tension, conflict, and tragedy. He proposed turning America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country, encouraging immigrants to maintain their culture, and making the U.S. an "Hispanic Quebec" without unity. Lamm also suggested making the fastest growing demographic group the least educated, promoting dual citizenship, censoring dissenting opinions, and censoring Victor Hanson Davis's book "Mexifornia." The speech concluded with a chilling warning that if these methods continue, America's future is in grave danger.

from George
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We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado .. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington , DC , filled to capacity by many of America 's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, 'Mexifornia,' explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal was destroying the entire state of California . He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America .

The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States . He said, 'If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America . It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.''

'Here is how they do it,' Lamm said:

'First, to destroy America , turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country...  History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way:


'The histories of bilingual and bicultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.' Canada , Belgium , Malaysia , and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy , if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, Corsicans and Muslims.'


Lamm went on:

'Second, to destroy America , invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. Make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal; that there are no cultural differences. Make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

'Third, we could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec ' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: 'The apparent success of our own multi-ethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricy and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.' Lamm said, 'I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities.'

'Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school.'

'My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology...' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority plation.'

'My sixth plan for America 's downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precept. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games.. A common enemy, Persia , threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. 'E. Pluribus Unum' -- From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'Unum,' we will 'Balkanize'  America as surely as Kosovo.'

'Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits. Make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-cultum, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America , it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them.'

In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said, 'Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book 'Mexifornia.' His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America .. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book.'

There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America Take note of California and other states. To date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book '1984..' In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: 'War is peace,' 'Freedom is slavery,' and 'Ignorance is strength..'

Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.

...and it's already working so well, you have to post this is "anonymous"....heh-heh  but it's not funny...

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Re: Destroying America [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Well put.  It started before any of us even knew.

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Re: Destroying America [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
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What happens at wall street and at the bank is what's destroying America. Rendering it from the most prosperous nation to one completely hollowed out and near bankruptcy. If China diversifies out of the dollar our economy is finished without any Chinese soldier as much as a single bullet. This isnt some wicked Fu Manchu Chinese plot, it was commited by our own leaders. We were betrayed, sold out.

Don't let that politician divide you America, and distract you from the crime of the century - Robbing America blind, and robbing your children of their future.
Right here, right now.

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Re: Destroying America [Re: Anonymous #3]
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Yeah - I see a combination of devastaters, where it ends up at points along the way are a little fuzzy for me. Maybe that's because there aren't any? :lol:

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Re: Destroying America [Re: Anonymous #1]
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nigga you think anybody gon read dis shit

bunch a bullshit if i ever heard it.

fuck da mexicans tho

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Re: Destroying America [Re: Anonymous #4]
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Most of the first generation Mexicans I've met (in s. Cali) are totally Americanized and have little interest in living or even going to mexico, ever, even though it is 3 hours away. 


That is really a bunch of horseshit you posted.  I bet we could solve the over immigration issue by taking all the military aid we send to isreal and give it to mexico and el salvador to subsidize their poor, rural farmers. 


#3 knows whats up.

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Re: Destroying America [Re: Anonymous #5]
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Well, I don't see how anyone is going to beat Wall Street regardless of our opinions :lol:
Just thought it was an interesting read and made some points...

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Re: Destroying America [Re: Anonymous #1]
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This is some heinously ignorant stuff.

The exact same bullshit was being heaped on Italian Americans a hundred years ago.

This guy should be ashamed of himself.

As a matter of fact, let me drop trou and shit on this point by point:

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WE MUST FIRST MAKE AMERICA A BILINGUAL-BICULTURAL COUNTRY. HISTORY SHOWS, IN MY OPINION, THAT NO NATION CAN SURVIVE THE TENSION, CONFLICT



All of the countries he list still exist, and most are doing just fine.

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I WOULD MAKE IT AN ARTICLE OF BELIEF THAT ALL CULTURES ARE EQUAL: THAT THERE ARE NO CULTURAL DIFFERENCES THAT ARE IMPORTANT



Equal does not mean identical. Those are two separate things. Multiculturalism does not dictate that we IGNORE cultural differences, that's utterly retarded and was discarded decades ago. Multi-culturalism is ACKNOWLEDGING cultural differences.

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I WOULD DECLARE IT AN ARTICLE OF FAITH THAT THE BLACK AND HISPANIC DROPOUT RATE IS ONLY DUE TO PREJUDICE AND DISCRIMINATION BY THE MAJORITY



OR you could compare how blacks and hispanics do to people of other races in the same economic conditions and see the difference disappears.



aaaaand nevermind, I can't even read the rest of this.

I hope this guy gets ball cancer.


EDIT:  Okay, I'm going to try to keep going.

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I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL IMMIGRANTS TO KEEP THEIR OWN LANGUAGE AND CULTURE.



Except they don't. Try getting anything other than a brute labor job without speaking English. Their kids learn English because they don't want to trim hedges forever.

God, it just pisses me off so badly that this guy thinks that just because the fucking beaners are allowed to keep speaking Spanish in the home and painting shit for El Dia De La Muertos or whatever that they're somehow running the culture and not integrating.

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HAVING DONE ALL THIS, I WOULD MAKE OUR FASTEST GROWING DEMOGRAPHIC GROUP THE LEAST EDUCATED



Poor people have a lot of kids. Way to go, genius. Who the fuck told them to? Way to mangle causality. 

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I WOULD THEN GET THE BIG FOUNDATIONS AND BIG BUSINESS TO GIVE THESE ...



I say it's utter horseshit. He didn't explain, so I don't have to either.

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A DIVERSE," PEACEFUL, OR STABLE SOCIETY IS AGAINST MOST HISTORICAL PRECEDENT.



Except for every great empire ever.

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THE GREEKS BELIEVED THAT THEY BELONGED TO THE SAME RACE; blah blah blah



See above. The greek empire included MANY different cultures. That's what made them great. Even when it was just Greece, greece was just a loose coalition of city-states that warred against eachother from time to time. None of this is as simple as this asshole is pretending it is.

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  THEN I WOULD PLACE ALL THESE SUBJECTS OFF LIMITS - MAKE IT TABOO TO TALK ABOUT.



The only thing in this whole paper that isn't horseshit.







Edited by Anonymous (06/13/10 09:10 PM)

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Re: Destroying America [Re: Anonymous #6]
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these chain/spam email things an odd facet of right wing culture

http://myrightwingdad.blogspot.com/

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Re: Destroying America [Re: Anonymous #7] * 1
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You bumped a lame thread that almost got buried for all time.

Thanks asshole.

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Re: Destroying America [Re: Anonymous #7]
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Oh boy.... i would NEVER wish ball cancer on anyone for having an opinion... kinda showed your ass there number six.  More rhetoric.  I tell you what WILL destroy us is technology.  Happy Independence Day.

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Re: Destroying America [Re: Anonymous #5] * 1
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It's true, I don't know any second-generation Mexican-Americans who even have an accent in their English. Many of them don't even speak Spanish, at least not fluently.

There are signs in the UK that are bi-lingual English and Welsh, for Christ's sake, and I don't see any kind of epic civil war between those two cultures threatening that country's "national existence."

Politicians are just using the immigration issue as a way to get votes from racist bigots. Nationalism is nothing but a virulent form of ignorance.

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