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As someone not from the US
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Does the president always get driven around in one of those car-cavalcades like he/she does on 24?

Bit overkill?

:rasta:

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Re: As someone not from the US [Re: Anonymous #1]
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not jsut the president


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Re: As someone not from the US [Re: Anonymous #2]
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They tend to last longer that way.

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Re: As someone not from the US [Re: Anonymous #3]
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But his car is like a fortress anyway, do they need that many cars and bikes!


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Re: As someone not from the US [Re: Anonymous #1]
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awesome.    ive been in armored civilian cars before, they are DOPE!

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Re: As someone not from the US [Re: Anonymous #4]
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Yeah our dude used to drive around in a convertible, shit was so cash. Unfortunately it didn't turn out too well.

Also I don't know if you've been to America before but there's always a large segment of the population that absolutely hates the president. Occasionally someone becomes so inflamed they actually try to kill him. It really is a surprise nobody killed George Bush but I chalk it up to the security. It would just be a big hassle trying to kill a president.

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Re: As someone not from the US [Re: Anonymous #5]
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Eight miles to the gallon?

Nice to see we're going green from the top down. :rolleyes:

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Re: As someone not from the US [Re: Anonymous #6]
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It's to protect him, not be gas efficient.

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Re: As someone not from the US [Re: Anonymous #6]
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Anonymous #6 said:
Eight miles to the gallon?

Nice to see we're going green from the top down. :rolleyes:



this

there's plenty of wasteful stupid shit obama's done you can bash him for, this one isn't one of those things

rag on him for flying to NYC for a date with his wife maybe.  you're the fucking president, you don't need to take her out on a date.  tell her to get under that desk, it's an executive order  :kingcrankey:

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Re: As someone not from the US [Re: Anonymous #8]
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Anonymous #8 said:
Anonymous #6 said:
Eight miles to the gallon?

Nice to see we're going green from the top down. :rolleyes:



this

there's plenty of wasteful stupid shit obama's done you can bash him for, this one isn't one of those things

rag on him for flying to NYC for a date with his wife maybe.  you're the fucking president, you don't need to take her out on a date.  tell her to get under that desk, it's an executive order  :kingcrankey:



personally, I applaud him for taking his wife out on the town. have you ever had a workaholic dad who was never home? or when he was home was constantly working? I have, it sucks.  Family time is an important part of life whether you're the prez or a bum.

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Re: As someone not from the US [Re: Anonymous #9]
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plus he is banging his own wife instead of all the temps and shit in the white house.

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Re: As someone not from the US [Re: Anonymous #4]
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Clinton's dickhead is blacker/has more soul than obama's whole body.

Who was the REAL first black president?

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Re: As someone not from the US [Re: Anonymous #10]
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Anonymous #10 said:
Clinton's dickhead is blacker/has more soul than obama's whole body.

Who was the REAL first black president?



cause thats not a generalization. :wink:

that being said, I totally see where you're coming from. Clinton was a p.i.m.p. and still is as far as I'm concerned haha

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Re: As someone not from the US [Re: Anonymous #9]
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Anonymous #9 said:
Anonymous #8 said:
Anonymous #6 said:
Eight miles to the gallon?

Nice to see we're going green from the top down. :rolleyes:



this

there's plenty of wasteful stupid shit obama's done you can bash him for, this one isn't one of those things

rag on him for flying to NYC for a date with his wife maybe.  you're the fucking president, you don't need to take her out on a date.  tell her to get under that desk, it's an executive order  :kingcrankey:



personally, I applaud him for taking his wife out on the town. have you ever had a workaholic dad who was never home? or when he was home was constantly working? I have, it sucks.  Family time is an important part of life whether you're the prez or a bum.



that's fine and dandy, but taking air force one on a little jauntry trip from DC to NYC?  Gimme a break.  You can spend family time without spending thousands and thousands of taxpayer dollars.

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Re: As someone not from the US [Re: Anonymous #8]
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He could also video conference with her using one of his mint video conferencing suites (well, they always look fantastic on 24). Can you imagine the president cyber-sexing his wife! Haha! I be Obama would be one smooth operator.

:inlove:

Just as a side note, being outside the US, I don't think I've ever heard a bad word said about Obama. I know the opinion polls are a little different towards him inside the US but outside...no one has anything bad to say about him.

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Re: As someone not from the US [Re: Anonymous #1]
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they should send those to the troops

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Re: As someone not from the US [Re: Anonymous #8]
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Anonymous #8 said:
Anonymous #9 said:
Anonymous #8 said:
Anonymous #6 said:
Eight miles to the gallon?

Nice to see we're going green from the top down. :rolleyes:



this

there's plenty of wasteful stupid shit obama's done you can bash him for, this one isn't one of those things

rag on him for flying to NYC for a date with his wife maybe.  you're the fucking president, you don't need to take her out on a date.  tell her to get under that desk, it's an executive order  :kingcrankey:



personally, I applaud him for taking his wife out on the town. have you ever had a workaholic dad who was never home? or when he was home was constantly working? I have, it sucks.  Family time is an important part of life whether you're the prez or a bum.



that's fine and dandy, but taking air force one on a little jauntry trip from DC to NYC?  Gimme a break.  You can spend family time without spending thousands and thousands of taxpayer dollars.



he didn't take air force one. he took a private jet. 
Quote:
Spokesman Robert Gibbs, keeping the White House press corps in stiches, as he always does, said the Obamas would have preferred using a commercial airline shuttle to New York and back, but the Secret Service would not allow such unprotected travel (ba da bing).




as for the cost, it was never released.  the article I quoted above (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/01/curl-cost-nyc-weekend/) estimated $70,000. It also notes that other sources have estimated as low as $24,000.

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Re: As someone not from the US [Re: Anonymous #9]
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70k is probably much closer to the real cost.  the lowballs were probably just for the flight itself, not security costs.

yeah, it's really a bit improper.  sure, he can, sure, but that's a lot of money (and I don't think it's out of HIS pocket) to be spending selfishly.  The man's living in probably the single most recognizable and famous inhabited building on earth..  I think you can work up a romantic evening at home given all that.

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Re: As someone not from the US [Re: Anonymous #8]
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I've never had kids, but plenty of my friends have, and I know for a fact that sometimes its just nice to get away.  And he made a promise to her while running for office that after the election they would take in a broadway show. As for the cost, like was noted, the Obamas wanted to  take a commercial flight but secret service says not. As for the cost involved with secret service, thats why they are there: To protect the president. you don't hear anybody bitching about the costs involved when any president goes on vacation. Be it to the New England shore, to a ranch in Texas, or to go skiing in Colorado.  Why is it different on a date night :shrug2:? People need to stop looking for controversy over Obama.  I'm not saying he's the best president ever, only time will tell, but seriously, all this BS controversy, people scrutinizing every little miniscule movement and taking everything out of context, that's overrated, produced, media hype.

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Re: As someone not from the US [Re: Anonymous #9]
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I agree, we should forget all this nonsense and be focusing on him selling out the population to Wall Street, the health insurance industry, the coal industry, and now British Petroleum.

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