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Psychedelics
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I have wanted to try psychedelics for a long time.

Something that stops me is that a person I love very much and who does so much for me does not approve. I think I am doing more harm to my body by taking prescription drugs that the person approves of than by taking psychedelics.

I hope psychedelics will help me spiritually, with my art, help me allow myself to be a better person, give me some messages and meaning, as well as with my OCD and anxiety.

I don't know if I should tell the person and talk to them more about it than we already have, or just make the decision whether or not to take them on my own.
I know I can make my own decisions but...
I am basically asking for permission, because I love them and I couldn't survive without them, but also if they love me shouldn't they accept me for who I am and my choices even the "extreme" ones.

The person may have some prejudices because of people, more so one person, they know whom life got ruined because of alcohol and cocaine.

Also because of some people they knew who used psychedelics and marijuana for pure recreation.

I wouldn't call why I want to try as "recreation" but for spiritual and healing purposes.

Before I really can choose what I want I need to get over or get some sort of permission or acceptance from that person.

They wouldn't want me so hung up on what they believe and want me to be my own person but at the same time they don't feel comfortable with this.


In the past they have said- "it is your thing I don't approve or disprove" to "I want you to wait until you are a more mature person before you would do that kind of stuff".... the person does think I am very mature and part of the reason I believe and I think they said is legal reasons.

:heart:

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Re: Psychedelics [Re: Anonymous #1]
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:pm: me(if comfortable)

-trip forever

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Re: Psychedelics [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Anonymous #2 said:
:pm: me(if comfortable)

-trip forever



Okay. I will.
... Unless this is a trap! :paranoid:
Just kidding.

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Re: Psychedelics [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Nah, it's not.

Looking up some links to show her right meow.

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Re: Psychedelics [Re: Anonymous #2]
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anyways why is this anon?

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Re: Psychedelics [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Anonymous #2 said:
Nah, it's not.

Looking up some links to show her right meow.



Okay... no judgments!
:lol:

I gave the person a lot of information but they still are not too comfortable with it.

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Re: Psychedelics [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Anonymous #2 said:
anyways why is this anon?



I can't reveal the whole thing... but they are very close to me and have some personal prejudices. Maybe part of my ocd but I feel I need their permission or blessing or just acceptance really not permission.
Maybe it is just a natural thing to want that.
I can't truly know what I want until I can move forward.
But I know I would have a much more peaceful trip if I do have their acceptance.

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Re: Psychedelics [Re: Anonymous #2]
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http://stopdrugprohibition.com/Drug-Information/Hallucinogens/Psilocybin-Mushrooms.html

"In 1961, Timothy Leary and Richard Alpert ran the Harvard Psilocybin Project, carrying out a number of experiments concerning the use of psilocybin in the treatment of personality disorders and other uses in psychological counseling"

"The toxicity of psilocybin is low; in rats, the oral LD50 is 280 mg/kg, approximately one and a half times that of caffeine."

"The effects of psilocybin are highly variable and dependent on the current mood and overall sense of well-being by the individual. Initially the subject may begin to feel somewhat disoriented, lethargic, and euphoric or sometimes depressed. At low doses, hallucinatory effects may occur, including enhancement of colors and the animation of geometric shapes. Closed-eye hallucination may occur, where the affected individual may see multi-colored geometric shapes and vivid imaginative sequences. At higher doses, hallucinatory effects increase and experiences tend to be less social and more introspective or entheogenic. Open-eye visuals are more common, and may be very detailed although rarely confused with reality.[58] Based on a study of 27 hospital admissions of patients (ages ranging from 12 to 24 years) who consumed Psilocybe semilanceata, a 1980 clinical report summarized the distribution of clinical symptoms of psilocybin overdose as follows: perceptual disorder (23 patients), mydriasis (pupil dilation) (20), dysphoria (an unpleasant mood) (13), hyperreflexia (twitching) (12), tachycardia (increased heart rate) (10), drowsiness (7), and euphoria (elation) (5).[59] These clinical responses are similar to results obtained in several earlier studies where pure psilocybin was administered to human volunteers.[60][61][62][63][64]"

Tell her they have medicinial values and they did a test where EVERYONE said they're life benefited positively and 2/3rds said it was one of the best expierences of their life.

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Re: Psychedelics [Re: Anonymous #2]
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NVM don't pm me, in that case.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms.shtml

http://www.dancesafe.org/documents/druginfo/mushrooms.php

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/Press_releases/2008/07_01_08.html(READ THIS ONE)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6210694.stm

READ LAST ONE, AS WELL, IT CURES OCD. Tell her that it's your choice and would benefit your life greatly, and may cure your OCD.

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Re: Psychedelics [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Thank you very much.
I hope I will be able to work something out with the person.
I don't believe you can OD on mushrooms unless you are inject pure SILLY-SIGH-BIN

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Re: Psychedelics [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Anonymous #2 said:
http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/Press_releases/2008/07_01_08.html(READ THIS ONE)





This one doesn't work.

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Re: Psychedelics [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Yes, most those articles point that out.

And remember to mention that shrooms can be bad, but you'll use them in the right way, just so he doesn't think you're being biased.

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Re: Psychedelics [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous #1 said:
Anonymous #2 said:
Nah, it's not.

Looking up some links to show her right meow.



Okay... no judgments!
:lol:

I gave the person a lot of information but they still are not too comfortable with it.



It really doesn't matter what THEY are comfortable with. If you have taken none of these drugs you are being undersold the importance of YOU being ok with taking them and YOU being ok with their opinion of it.

I mean it is more important for YOU to be able to accept their blessing or disapproval than their actual blessing or disapproval exists as. I'm assuming this other you speak of is equally ignorant to hallucinogenic effects. You should never have to justify curiosity to another, and if your ability to produce empirical evidence that your hallucinogen of choice is as physically safe as many commonplace foods or drugs is lost on them and they cannot respect your curiosity then I would imagine you could become defensive at that point.

Whatever you choose, do only what you feel comfortable with. Best of luck.

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Re: Psychedelics [Re: Anonymous #3]
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Anonymous #3 said:
Anonymous #1 said:
Anonymous #2 said:
Nah, it's not.

Looking up some links to show her right meow.



Okay... no judgments!
:lol:

I gave the person a lot of information but they still are not too comfortable with it.



It really doesn't matter what THEY are comfortable with. If you have taken none of these drugs you are being undersold the importance of YOU being ok with taking them and YOU being ok with their opinion of it.

I mean it is more important for YOU to be able to accept their blessing or disapproval than their actual blessing or disapproval exists as. I'm assuming this other you speak of is equally ignorant to hallucinogenic effects. You should never have to justify curiosity to another, and if your ability to produce empirical evidence that your hallucinogen of choice is as physically safe as many commonplace foods or drugs is lost on them and they cannot respect your curiosity then I would imagine you could become defensive at that point.

Whatever you choose, do only what you feel comfortable with. Best of luck.



:heart:

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Re: Psychedelics [Re: Anonymous #1]
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:billymaythumbup:

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