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Website idea
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Whats your favorite web site. I have to come up with an idea for a site that will bring in $2000 a month.

What should it be?

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Re: Website idea [Re: Anonymous #1]
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hand crafted lye soap?

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Re: Website idea [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Ebay.

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Re: Website idea [Re: Anonymous #3]
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how about a mix between ebay/craigslist and facebook/myspace? you can go to peoples blogs and they have items they are auctioning off and you can buy what ever item.

EDIT: oh and through in a search engine like google/youtube and a few discreate advertisements that will bring in big bucks without making people not wanna even go to the site.

Edited by Anonymous (08/28/09 12:31 AM)

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Re: Website idea [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Good idea.  Any more?

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Re: Website idea [Re: Anonymous #1]
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You might find it easier to make 20 sites which each bring in $100/month. Good luck to you, most of the obvious ideas have been implemented and re-implemented ten times by now.

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Re: Website idea [Re: Anonymous #4]
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Porn.




With grizzly bears.

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Re: Website idea [Re: Anonymous #5]
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Anonymous #5 said:
Porn.




With grizzly bears.



He said make $2000/mo not cost that much. :smirk:

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Re: Website idea [Re: Anonymous #4]
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#4 you have sites? I like the way you think. Outside the box. Would these sites be similar? or all completely different?

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Re: Website idea [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Porn. You can't go wrong with porn if you wanna make money.

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Re: Website idea [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous #1 said:
#4 you have sites? I like the way you think. Outside the box. Would these sites be similar? or all completely different?



I'm Ythan. :lol:

You'd probably want to keep the underlying sites similar to minimize your workload, just cater to different interests. Like with Shroomery and Growery. If you're after cash, make sure your content isn't too controversial so you can get accepted into AdSense and such. Then as long as you can bring in targeted traffic you'll probably do okay for yourself.

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Re: Website idea [Re: Anonymous #4]
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Is the real money in ads, or in getting people to pay for access to site.

Also, do you think flash is to flashy? Do most people want it or not?


:bow2:

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Re: Website idea [Re: Anonymous #1]
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The real money is definitely in ads. Nobody will pay for shit on the internet. The tide may slowly be turning, eg. how News Corp is starting to charge for access, but I doubt that people who are accustomed to getting things for free will suddenly start dipping into their wallets. You're much better off striking advertising deals when possible. Paid access is just a bonus. Eg. supporter accounts make up maybe 5% of our total revenue. Banners are what pay the bills.

Your question about Flash is a little hard to answer. It's like asking, "is a chainsaw overkill?" It depends on what you need to do. Most people have Flash installed these days so there's not much of a compatibility issue, but it breaks a lot of fundamental aspects of the net like direct links, printing, separation of content and presentation, etc. My general answer would be, no, stay away from Flash, if you need it, it will be apparent. Eg. if you want video support on your site, it's the best option at the moment. But avoid it as much as possible. Consider a Javascript library like jQuery which can provide much of the same functionality in a more compatible fashion.

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Re: Website idea [Re: Anonymous #4]
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YOu sir, are a wealth of knowledge. Do u have formal schooling in web design or did you teach yourself?

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Re: Website idea [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Why thank you. :smile: I'm a self-taught high-school dropout, but I've been doing web stuff for years, basically since it first went mainstream. I think my original site went online around 1995 when I was in eighth grade ("YthanB and SpecialtyQ's Page of Funk", if anyone can find a copy there's some serious nostalgia value there). Honestly, given how long I've been in the game, I should probably be better by now at what I do. But whatever, I get by okay with the knowledge I have. Just remember my advice isn't definitive or anything like that. It's all IMHO and if you're creative you can ignore everything I have to say and still come out on top.

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Re: Website idea [Re: Anonymous #4]
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Anyone who does something successfully has knowledge to offer. And the shroomery is a success by any definition of the word.

If you have a minut I have one more question.

I have been teaching myself html and dreamweaver. But am starting to realize that i need to know css, php, java, and possibly flash.

What are the main things I should concentrate on. So far I have the page layout of my site designed. I have most of the pages set up but without content. I've been using dreamweaver for that. I wish someone had told me about templates before I coded all that shit by hand.

I would also like to have a huge forum, chat, and blog section. And have no idea about how to begin that or develope a database. I think that involves sql?

If you could steer me in the direction of the most valuable things to learn in site design, i could know what else to concentrate on beside html and dreamweaver. I believe you told me before php and java, are those something you can do with only a small knowledge of html?

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Re: Website idea [Re: Anonymous #1]
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I'll do my best to give some good general advice based on my personal opinions, but this is a pretty broad subject. It might be a good idea to take a class or at least get some good books. All the information you need is available on the net for free, but it can be intimidating when you don't even know what you need to know.

First of all, don't waste too much time learning Dreamweaver. You should be able to write HTML by hand if you're serious about web design. This is not some elitist attitude like "true programmers only use Assembly", it's just the truth. You can't get the control you need over a website if there's a program writing the code for you. If you're not particularly interested in the craft and just want to churn out simple pages, they maybe Dreamweaver would be a better option, but even so - the UI is so complex that by the time you have it mastered you probably could have learned to code anyway. I recommend UltraEdit for a text editor. Other people like HTML-Kit, Nvu, jEdit, etc. Those are all perfectly good options. Just don't listen to people who say "true web developers only use Notepad". That's like saying "true carpenters only use lincoln logs". Use the best tool for the job, whatever you find that tool to be. But Notepad isn't the best tool for anything.

CSS is also important because it's a fundamental aspect of the design process. You'll need to have a good knowledge of CSS to build any non-trivial site. Fortunately it's not that complicated, and if you've done any real work with word processors you're probably familiar with the concept. Stylesheets help you to separate the syntactic meaning of a site from its appearance, making for cleaner, more adaptable and more reusable code.

If you want a dynamic site (ie. pretty much anything but those static "brochue" pages which never change), you will need to learn both a scripting language and SQL. I'm most comfortable with PHP and MySQL personally. Those aren't the only options, eg. Ruby on Rails and PostgreSQL can accomplish the same things and are the flavor of the day. But if you want something simple with lots of documentation and examples, PHP and MySQL can't be beat.

Two things you do not need to learn are Java or Flash. Those are for specialized applications. You will want to learn Javascript, but that has no relation to Java besides the name. Look into libraries like jQuery or MooTools so you don't have to deal with all the cross-browser compatibility issues. I wish those libraries had been around when I started working with Javascript.

Here's some additional reading to get you started:
http://www.kayodeok.btinternet.co.uk/favorites/webdesign.htm
http://www.alvit.de/handbook/index.php
http://www.grepdocs.com/

Good luck!

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Re: Website idea [Re: Anonymous #4]
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Spend 3 grand and get a high definition card printer that does microprinting, haulograms, and watermarks of various types such as uv ones. Then start a site selling "novelty id's" just gotta think of a way to recieve payments anonymously so you dont get fucked over in legal stuff.

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