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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Discussion about democracy and the great USA
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Ive been reading all theses threads about politics or political debates....though many were old threads I couldnt help but read them. Upon reading them I found that many of the members actually believe we have a nation that gives the people the right to choose. I personally feel that corruption took over congress a LONG time ago.What got me was all these ANTI- Ron Paul folks....Ron Paul never had a chance. The elite/illuminati are always in control.They make sure who wins the presidency...not the american people.Personally,I think the president is just a puppet...a side show for the people.

I could go on an on and post evidence as proof of my allegations,But I dont haver to...the truth is available to you if you just look.

Research,research....Look up Aaron russo , Alex Jones , Bohemien Grove,JFK ,New world order,and prescott bush....more searches will come as you research

It saddens me to watch my country fall from grace...If our for fathers could see us now :frown: :frown:

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Re: Discussion about democracy and the great USA [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Yes the corruption is throughout, Obama is a puppet at worst (I believe he is) and a useless politician at best. People believe too much in the mainstream media to provide useful information and are followers more than leaders.

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Re: Discussion about democracy and the great USA [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Anonymous #2 said:
Yes the corruption is throughout, Obama is a puppet at worst (I believe he is) and a useless politician at best. People believe too much in the mainstream media to provide useful information and are followers more than leaders.


Propaganda my friend.The government controls the media...its one of their most powerful weapons.Especially when they want to goto war

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Re: Discussion about democracy and the great USA [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Of course, I already knew that, funny how all the 'smart' people think they are high and mighty because they think only the dumb would ever be weary of a government.

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Re: Discussion about democracy and the great USA [Re: Anonymous #2]
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What really amazes me is how many people turn a blind eye! NO ONE CARES! It really freaks me out....Most people either dont care or dont want to accept the truth.

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Re: Discussion about democracy and the great USA [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Anonymous #2 said:
Of course, I already knew that, funny how all the 'smart' people think they are high and mighty because they think only the dumb would ever be weary of a government.


 
I absolutely agree

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Re: Discussion about democracy and the great USA [Re: Anonymous #1]
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I agree that corruption has overtaken the process and that democracy is in a pathetic state in our country. We are less a democracy and more a plutocracy by this point.

But citing Alex Jones does not help your cause. Sorry. If you want to change minds, then focus on the everyday, the visible, the rational, the changeable, rather than clinging to this NWO/Illuminati garbage which is completely useless on a grassroots level. Ideas people can actually use are what we need right now, not fairy tales and bogeymen.

Edited by Tchan909 (07/28/09 08:08 PM)

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Re: Discussion about democracy and the great USA [Re: Anonymous #3]
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As much as I believe in a NWO and such, I never mention it as such. It just happens this 'order' is a bunch of rich bastards that don't give a fuck about the common man who without they would die. I always reference them as corrupt leaders/international banks out seeking money. People can relate to that a little better. Once they get into it and start learning more, they will hear NWO and link the two. NWO (new world order) for those that have heard it before actually taking time to process think it is a goofy name that nuts came up with. It is like a drug, start small and as you get into it more, give a larger dose of the 'medicine'.

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Re: Discussion about democracy and the great USA [Re: Anonymous #2]
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I find "plutocracy" a better word for it than "order," which smacks of conspiracy theory.

Actual political action and advocacy are what you should be getting involved in if you want things to change right now, not wanking at your computer doing "research" and bitching in anonymous forums about the connections you see between powerful figures.

Edited by Tchan909 (07/28/09 08:23 PM)

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Re: Discussion about democracy and the great USA [Re: Anonymous #3]
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here's a real story about bohemian grove

http://www.vanityfair.com/style/features/2009/05/bohemian-grove200905

but of course the conspiracy people will just say this is fake

me, i think ron paul is the head of the Illuminati and alex jones runs the bilderburg group.

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Re: Discussion about democracy and the great USA [Re: Anonymous #4]
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what i find saddest is people, instead of getting involved in politics and local governance, waste their lives following nuts like alex jones and the ilk down the rabbit hole.

conspiracy theories are a means of keeping you powerless and impotent...chasing fairytales instead of organizing and getting involved.

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Re: Discussion about democracy and the great USA [Re: Anonymous #3]
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Anonymous #3 said:
I find "plutocracy" a better word for it than "order," which smacks of conspiracy theory.

Actual political action and advocacy are what you should be getting involved in if you want things to change right now, not wanking at your computer doing "research" and bitching in anonymous forums about the connections you see between powerful figures.


I AM that guy standing in the picket line yelling "Give us back our money!" Or "Where is the peoples money?" as bernanke is walking by.Im the one is out there trying to have my voice heard

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Re: Discussion about democracy and the great USA [Re: Anonymous #1]
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oooo are you a teaparty person?

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Re: Discussion about democracy and the great USA [Re: Anonymous #4]
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Anonymous #4 said:
oooo are you a teaparty person?


:rofl2:

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