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People with no Willpower
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I dont understand people. One of my friends told me that he just cant stop taking E even though he really wants to. I have heard the same fucking story so many fucking times it makes me sick. It doesn't matter what it is, any addiction or bad habit. They say 'i just cant quit even though i really want to'

People like that make me sick. If there is something i really want to do, i do it. I can control myself.

Do people just grow up and go their whole lives without having any willpower? Or do some people really not have control over what they do?

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Re: People with no Willpower [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Yep I feel the same way. I see people sucking down cigarettes they look like SHIT like are fucking 35 and look like they are nearing 55-60... they all yap with their crackling voices about how much they are going to quit but they "just need time" and shit like half their life isn't already over with. Smoking is fucking d-i-s-c-u-s-t-i-n-g the only thin worse is meth, THATS IT. Fucking smell like shit always thinking about a cig 24/7 I mean SHIT if your going to have that mindset go get hooked on crack and fucking make the high worth it.

:3stooges: :heresjohnny:

Edited by Anonymous (07/01/09 09:56 AM)

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Re: People with no Willpower [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Think of a lazy Einstein, sure he'd be a genius, but what's it worth if he doesn't work to his potential?

Some people just have lower will than others, it's as simple as that.

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Re: People with no Willpower [Re: Anonymous #3]
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Anonymous #3 said:
Think of a lazy Einstein, sure he'd be a genius, but what's it worth if he doesn't work to his potential?

Some people just have lower will than others, it's as simple as that.



I guess that has to be the truth. The way i was raised i have really strong willpower. Or maybe thats just the way i am. I have just never been able to understand because i am not like them. And anytime i try to actually talk to these people it usually goes like this

'well if you really want to quit, why do you keep doing it?'

they either say 'i will quit, just not yet'
or
they basically say how they like whatever it is

and i go 'well then you dont really want to quit dumbass'  :rolleyes:

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Re: People with no Willpower [Re: Anonymous #3]
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I've recently had this fact shoved in my face, that I procrastinate endlessly on things. Its true though, its just laziness and all my excuses are pure bullshit.

Willpower is just social conditining.

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Re: People with no Willpower [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Dude, you obviously have no idea what addiction actually is. Willpower plays it's part yes, but there's a hell of a lot more to it than that; something you can only understand if you experience it. Obviously you're lucky enough to not have, so be grateful for that.

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Re: People with no Willpower [Re: Anonymous #5]
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I broke a 20 year addiction to ciggatreetes and a 15 year addiction to Weed. Folk who "can't" break an addiction can if they actually want to.

Its the "want to" bit people fail on.

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Re: People with no Willpower [Re: Anonymous #4]
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yea number 4, why did it take you that long?

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Re: People with no Willpower [Re: Anonymous #5]
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Anonymous #5 said:
Dude, you obviously have no idea what addiction actually is. Willpower plays it's part yes, but there's a hell of a lot more to it than that; something you can only understand if you experience it. Obviously you're lucky enough to not have, so be grateful for that.



Having a physical/mental addiction to something makes it very difficult to break.

Maybe not for you if you dont have a fulltime job and a family to support, but if you are shooting dope and decide I want to quit.

You cant just quit because you wont function well at work and may not be able to work at all which could lead to you being let go.

Then what?

Same thing with students and thier studies.

If you have the time and the motivation you can quit but it's not always that easy you have to think about all those factors.

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Re: People with no Willpower [Re: Anonymous #7]
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What about fat people who say they want to go on a diet?

They never do. And of course not exercise.

Being addicted to food does happen, but it is extremely rare.

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Re: People with no Willpower [Re: Anonymous #1]
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You dont even have evidence free will exists!  Assuming it does, then you surely dont know the mechanism behind will.  But whatever that mechanism is, certainly there is no reason to assume we all have it in the same quantities/qualities.

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Re: People with no Willpower [Re: Anonymous #9]
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ALL addiction starts with willpower and nothing else. Only when it gets ridiculous does it become more such as a drug to help you function properly. You smoke one cigarette or drink a couple drinks, your not addicted then but you keep going back because of your lack willpower soon you become addicted and have all kinds of problems.
Once you go back to the addiction so many times your beyond just pure willpower being a factor. But it all stems from willpower or lack thereof, that is not hard to see. You ever meet an addict with a strong willpower? Not likely, although they do exist. Unless someone FORCED you to do drugs and become addicted.


Edited by Anonymous (07/01/09 03:41 PM)

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Re: People with no Willpower [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous #1 said:
I dont understand people. One of my friends told me that he just cant stop taking E even though he really wants to. I have heard the same fucking story so many fucking times it makes me sick. It doesn't matter what it is, any addiction or bad habit. They say 'i just cant quit even though i really want to'

People like that make me sick. If there is something i really want to do, i do it. I can control myself.

Do people just grow up and go their whole lives without having any willpower? Or do some people really not have control over what they do?



Oh, my...

You sound like an enormously smug, self important douchebag. Where does this arrogance come from? Did you break a decade-long heroin addiction recently?

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Re: People with no Willpower [Re: Anonymous #10]
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Anonymous #10 said:
Oh, my...

You sound like an enormously smug, self important douchebag. Where does this arrogance come from? Did you break a decade-long heroin addiction recently?



QFT.

I agree with the OP, only to the extent that breaking an addiction requires a lot of willpower (especially in the case of a long-term addiction.)  And I do think that many people these days seem to lack willpower, to one degree or another.

However, addiction is a pretty complex, and extraordinarily powerful thing. The psychological aspect of an addiction can be nearly impossible to break. This is why relapse rates for drug addicts are so high. Ask someone who's been clean from heroin for 5 years if they're ever still tempted to get high. Assuming they tell the truth, you'll see what I mean.

Anon #7 also has a very good point. When an addiction is physical, it can be VERY difficult to break. OP: Take xanax every day for a few months, then stop cold turkey.  You'll find out just how much willpower means, when you go psychotic, or have a seizure.

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Re: People with no Willpower [Re: Anonymous #11]
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i never do anything i plan on getting addicted to but we all make mistakes, sometimes people misjudge themselves usually its not you but theres time

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Re: People with no Willpower [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Dude, get your head out of your ass, you are having a serious, potentially life-threatening ego trip. I'm sure you have your own weaknesses that you wouldn't want people to hold against you, like for example that superiority complex you're nursing.

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Re: People with no Willpower [Re: Anonymous #13]
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I was going to say something... but I had to finish that last 8ball and now I forgot. Guess I'll quit tomorrow :shrug:

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Re: People with no Willpower [Re: Anonymous #14]
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most people dont give a flying fuck the dudes becoming an e-tard even if he's still smart he wont be as smart as he could have been

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Re: People with no Willpower [Re: Anonymous #12]
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people with no willpower piss me off,Drugs and addiction aside, I have a friend who hasn't finished high-school because he "just can't get up early". He should be entering second year university but instead sleeps in until 4-6pm every day.

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Re: People with no Willpower [Re: Anonymous #15]
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Sounds just like me, fuck getting up early. :thumbdown:

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