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Re: Chemtrails [Re: Jack Albertson]
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Jack Albertson said:
adrug said:
I watched it and I didn't see anything out of the ordinary. I saw planes flying over head leaving trails of condensation like planes tend to do (depending on the weather conditions). They do that, you know!



Contrails fade within seconds, chemtrails linger around for hours and then spread out and become artificial clouds, changing an otherwise clear and sunny day into overcast or stormy conditions.




Do you have sources  for the fade rates?

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Re: Chemtrails [Re: Lorek]
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Lorek said:
How would one explain gold dust falling from the sky?





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Re: Chemtrails [Re: Tangerines]
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Whoah, Flashback!


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: Chemtrails [Re: Lorek]
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Do you people actually find it surprising that there are types of bacteria in the air?

http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/sb-ESD-cataloging-bacteria.html

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Although deadly bacteria grab headlines because they can be used as a terrorist weapon, they're also our everyday neighbors. Botulism is caused by the bacterium Clostridium botulinum, which is commonly found in the soil and the intestinal tracts of animals. And anthrax, which is caused by Bacillus anthracis, is an infectious livestock disease. Inevitably, some of these bacteria become aerosolized, meaning they float away in the slightest breeze, and usually in concentrations so small they remain harmless. Their only threat is to confound the search for potentially dangerous concentrations of bacteria, which is why it's necessary to record everything that lurks in the air—the good, the bad, and the esoteric.



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Re: Chemtrails [Re: Tangerines]
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Re: Chemtrails [Re: Jack Albertson]
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Jack Albertson said:
are you implying that the sample was contaminated by all of the things at the altitude of aircraft? why would that shit just be lingering around in the air?



I was asking how the sample was collected because I'm guessing it was collected at ground level, which hardly proves anything, especially about them definitively having come from "chemtrails".  There are various types of spores, bacteria, and viruses in the air all the time.


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Re: Chemtrails [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
Jack Albertson said:
adrug said:
I watched it and I didn't see anything out of the ordinary. I saw planes flying over head leaving trails of condensation like planes tend to do (depending on the weather conditions). They do that, you know!



Contrails fade within seconds, chemtrails linger around for hours and then spread out and become artificial clouds, changing an otherwise clear and sunny day into overcast or stormy conditions.




Do you have sources  for the fade rates?





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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
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Re: Chemtrails [Re: makaveli8x8]
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chemtrails don't exist

kthxbai


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Re: Chemtrails [Re: adrug]
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:syringe::rocket:


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We play on earth to pass the time :foreheadslap:

Over-population the root of all Evil-brings the Elites Closer to the gates.

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Re: Chemtrails [Re: adrug]
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adrug said:
Do you people actually find it surprising that there are types of bacteria in the air?

http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/sb-ESD-cataloging-bacteria.html

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Although deadly bacteria grab headlines because they can be used as a terrorist weapon, they're also our everyday neighbors. Botulism is caused by the bacterium Clostridium botulinum, which is commonly found in the soil and the intestinal tracts of animals. And anthrax, which is caused by Bacillus anthracis, is an infectious livestock disease. Inevitably, some of these bacteria become aerosolized, meaning they float away in the slightest breeze, and usually in concentrations so small they remain harmless. Their only threat is to confound the search for potentially dangerous concentrations of bacteria, which is why it's necessary to record everything that lurks in the air�the good, the bad, and the esoteric.





granted things to occur naturally, i doubt they make it to those types of altitudes.


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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
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Re: Chemtrails [Re: Jack Albertson]
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Why the heck not?


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: Chemtrails [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Because it doesn't fit into his neat little theory!

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Re: Chemtrails [Re: Geomancer]
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No ,it naturally rains that stuff from the sky like magic.

Just like the magic that fills our rivers with chemicals from pill manufactures.

The magic elfes dun it. :prance:

It appeared like magic out of thin air  :wow:

The problem is anyone that does actuall testing is considered a conspiracy person ,so no research can be acknoledged as credible ,because he tested the air for con trails he must be nuts,therefore he can not be believed.


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Re: Chemtrails [Re: adrug]
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Looks like microorganisms find a way to survive even in the upper atmosphere.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090318094642.htm

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New Microorganisms Discovered In Earth's Stratosphere

ScienceDaily (Mar. 18, 2009) — Three new species of bacteria, which are not found on Earth and which are highly resistant to ultra-violet radiation, have been discovered in the upper stratosphere by Indian scientists.



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Re: Chemtrails [Re: unretarded]
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Lorek said:
http://www.carnicom.com/bio1.htm




WTF is that?  Give me a scientific journal not some bullshit low grade website with no sources that has not been updated since the year 2000.  That does not constitute proof.

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Re: Chemtrails [Re: Jack Albertson]
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That's not a source, it's a Youtube video.

Now let's see a real source documenting the fade rate of condensation from airliners.

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Re: Chemtrails [Re: adrug]
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http://www.springerlink.com/content/h22x14u71j61514h/

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Abstract  A joint effort between the U.S. Geological Survey's (USGS) Global Desert Dust and NASA's Stratospheric and Cosmic Dust Programs identified culturable microbes from an air sample collected at an altitude of 20,000 m. A total of 4 fungal (Penicillium sp.) and 71 bacteria colony-forming units (70 colonies of Bacillus luciferensis believed to have originated from a single cell collected at altitude and one colony ofBacillus sphaericus) were enumerated, isolated and identified using a morphological key and 16S rDNA sequencing respectively. All of the isolates identified were spore-forming pigmented fungi or bacteria of terrestrial origin and demonstrate that the presence of viable microorganisms in Earth's upper atmosphere may not be uncommon.



Edited by adrug (04/20/09 09:03 PM)

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Re: Chemtrails [Re: Madtowntripper]
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micro organisms have been found at high altitudes and some of the ones he listed have been labeled not so uncommon, but the majority of that stuff should not have been there. Im not aware how many of the tests have been done, but based on that one, i would say that something was going on.


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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
TRANSCEND


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Re: Chemtrails [Re: Redstorm]
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http://www.grida.no/publications/other/ipcc_sr/?src=/climate/ipcc/aviation/038.htm

Here, I'll do it for him.

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Persistent contrail formation requires air that is ice-supersaturated (Brewer, 1946). Ice-supersaturated air is often free of visible clouds (Sassen, 1997) because the supersaturation is too small for ice particle nucleation to occur (Heymsfield et al., 1998b). Supersaturated regions are expected to be quite common in the upper troposphere (Ludlam, 1980). The presence of persistent contrails demonstrates that the upper troposphere contains air that is ice-supersaturated but will not form clouds unless initiated by aircraft exhaust (Jensen et al., 1998a). Aircraft initiate contrail formation by increasing the humidity within their exhaust trails, whereas local atmospheric conditions govern the subsequent evolution of contrail cirrus clouds. Indeed, the ice mass in long-lasting contrails originates almost completely from ambient water vapor (Knollenberg, 1972).



Edited by adrug (04/20/09 09:04 PM)

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Re: Chemtrails [Re: Geomancer]
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No where does that say chemtrails
that article is talking about contrails


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