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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Conspiracy theories spread paranoia and disintegrate community feeling [Re: zzripz]
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zzripz said:
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Depends what is meant by 'raising consciousness'. If it means some bliss-fest apathetic posture then to me it is phony, and ultra selfishness masquerading as selflessness. ...



you admit you don't know what is meant but instead of asking go off on a rant, piling up nasty implications ...

I hope you aren't really as angry and scared (much of the time), as many as of your posts sound.

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Re: Conspiracy theories spread paranoia and disintegrate community feeling [Re: laughingdog]
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There is no such thing as good and evil, only perceptions. One mans savior is anothers terrorist. Evil for x might be good for y and vise versa.

One person thinks it's okay to kill millions of people for a bigger cause whilst the other disagrees.

I'm not sure if this is a theory that is already out there but I think something along the lines of living in a multiverse. Everyone lives in their own universal bubble that overlap with other universes/people. Media technology overlaps with multiple universes and thus is able to produce larger changes in the collective universe because if we all focus on what they want, it's the hundredth monkey experience. We are at the center of creation, kind of like being at the center of a fractal and being able to control it to a degree with our perception and reaction to stimulus.

The only power we have is to choose how we react to something that is happening to us. So with our perception we can choose to feel like we are being imprisoned, or feel like we are free. Obviously it's easier to say this with easier hurdles and harder with more difficult situations like, having a gun pointed at your head.

How do we not contribute to the chaos at large? I think that being opinionated and one-sided is the cause of all problems. It's odd that we are taught to be this way in school. Someone is right, someone is wrong. But the truth is, they can be both simultaneously right and wrong at the same time.

I think if we were to rise up out of this immature form of thinking (right and wrong) and start using some our higher faculties such as empathy and realise our enemy is our brother who has the same needs as you do. We will never escape this vicious cycle of attack and revenge if we cannot forgive each other of all wrong doings and learn to look past our differences and see the similarities.

Edited by enlightenedx (05/04/16 12:35 AM)

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Re: Conspiracy theories spread paranoia and disintegrate community feeling [Re: laughingdog]
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laughingdog said:
zzripz said:
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Depends what is meant by 'raising consciousness'. If it means some bliss-fest apathetic posture then to me it is phony, and ultra selfishness masquerading as selflessness. ...



you admit you don't know what is meant but instead of asking go off on a rant, piling up nasty implications ...

I hope you aren't really as angry and scared (much of the time), as many as of your posts sound.



seems to me that you project maybe something you wont recognize in yourself onto me? I cannot see how you would come up with all that personal sht attack from what I typed in the quote? Is that supposed to be not anger in your book?:strokebeard:

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Re: Conspiracy theories spread paranoia and disintegrate community feeling [Re: zzripz] * 1
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Oh I just saw that.

No it's certainly not definable as a bliss-fest.

In that state, you are more capable, more ready, for any challenge, physical or mental, than ever. It is no turning away from life, it is instead going right to the midst of everything.


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Re: Conspiracy theories spread paranoia and disintegrate community feeling [Re: circastes]
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what I meant was that I am aware that many people--often males--who suggest some attainable 'higher consciousness' also tend to blame the other if they feel anger, or any other emotions and desires. This attitude is encapsulated in the new age 'you create your own reality'. And accompanying this suggestion is usually political apathy, because implied is that IF you are upset, angry, traumatized by external violence, injustice, persecution, that your re-action is because you have not got a 'higher consciousness'. And the promise is that when you do 'get it' you will not feel anger and persecution, and your very 'heightened' state will change things rather than political action/activism

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Re: Conspiracy theories spread paranoia and disintegrate community feeling [Re: circastes]
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circastes said:
It's been long known that a handful of elites own most of the corporations, important land/resources and world power governments. That is easily demonstratable, conspiracy nuts need not apply. These people are not necessarily smart nor evil. They are just everyday fuckups, most likely. Their short-sighted interest lies in their quest for wealth and power because of their undeveloped emotional and spiritual lives. They don't care at what cost their power and wealth comes to the human race, they are quite happy to bankroll both sides of a war for example. They also profit off of conflict NOT being resolved, essentially cashing in on human misery. That is "they".

The climate is the only thing they influence with their power that really matters to the long-term integrity of our species. Everything else is imaginary. So take all the money, we still have God, and you are the one that is in spiritual poverty, "...and you are poverty." (The Gospel of Thomas)

But if we rape this paradise into dirt and dust, we will vanish with it, and then the paradise will return, and a new intelligent species will perhaps return. But this is our story, this our time, and we are immaculate, and we ought to stick around and dream God's dream...

...for the hell of it.

:sun:



We are not immaculate. You are the dreamer living your dream.  If you want to not try to change things due to a fatalistic view and a lack of trying, then that's on you.  Don't ever expect me to agree with your laziness.  That's how I see it.  We are far from immaculate.  Start caring about your future instead of dreaming you can't make a difference.


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Re: Conspiracy theories spread paranoia and disintegrate community feeling [Re: LunarEclipse]
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Re: Conspiracy theories spread paranoia and disintegrate community feeling [Re: laughingdog]
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laughingdog said:
http://www.globalissues.org/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts

http://www.arlingtoninstitute.org/wbp

http://quinarie.com/Major_Current_World_Issues

http://www.conserve-energy-future.com/15-current-environmental-problems.php

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_environmental_issues

http://worldnews.about.com/od/topissues/



OK that's nice.  It all looks official, should I be impressed?  Are you a doctor too?  Do you want to psycho anal ize me because you got some degree from some second rate university but that made it official?  Are you an officer?  I am kind of busy, could you sum up your UN agenda in a few paragraphs?


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Re: Conspiracy theories spread paranoia and disintegrate community feeling [Re: LunarEclipse]
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LunarEclipse said:
OK that's nice.  It all looks official, should I be impressed?  Are you a doctor too?  Do you want to psycho anal ize me because you got some degree from some second rate university but that made it official?  Are you an officer?  I am kind of busy, could you sum up your UN agenda in a few paragraphs?



No I'm not a Dr. just nasty and sarcastic out of habit, even when I see something ambiguous but what the fuck man I'm really heavy you dig!!

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Re: Conspiracy theories spread paranoia and disintegrate community feeling [Re: laughingdog]
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Okay. We are traumatised, and secretly immaculate, then.

:sun:


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