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Offlineatomikfunksoldier
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the purpose of communication
    #1657923 - 06/24/03 07:53 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

you know when you stay up really late, and then you realize that you "can't go back"? well ive reached that point.

its kinda like doing mushrooms. when the high starts to sink in. It's similar to when you enter a strange, maybe life-threatening situation which you cannot escape from.

human communication:

---------I beleive in order for humans to properly communicate, they need to understand how human communication works, the basics at least. One should study the method and behaviour that humans demonstrate while communicating, and focus on the most effective, productive aspects of this behaviour.

example: a human encounters another human (imagine some sort of environmental setting, social situation) human x approaches human y and communicates.

human x: 12345 (his thought)

what human x is doing here is presenting a thought that is currently within his mind, and through sound/language/written language etc, he intends for human y to understand his thought, consider, and react.

hyperthesis: the only purpose of human communication is for human x to influence human y's actions/mentality/behaviour...whathaveyou.

for example: my post you have just read, I am presenting a thought to you (the reader). I want to influence your thoughts and actions. this does not mean I desire a distinct response, but I do desire a response. If I did not desire a response, then I would keep this thought inside my mind and not attempt to communicate it.

possible responses:

linguistical:
"you are a genius, I adopt your idea and believe it as truth"
"your hyperthesis is false, I shall provide examples to debunk it"

mental(inner monolouge)
-interesting, hmmmmm...
-ive thought of that before, it is slightly amusing....

physical
-you smile
-you frown

-------------and so on, there are infentisimal responses.

thoughts?>


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Re: the purpose of communication [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1657935 - 06/24/03 08:09 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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OfflineStrumpling
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Re: the purpose of communication [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1658110 - 06/24/03 11:06 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I think one of the difficulties we have with communication is the "language barrier" between any given people now that we have language...


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OfflineSeussA
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Re: the purpose of communication [Re: Strumpling]
    #1658139 - 06/24/03 11:29 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Words can communicate a picture or an idea, but they cannot create that picture or idea. Have you ever wondered what makes a word vulgar? Is it the word, the person saying the word, or the person interpreting the word that makes a word dirty?


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Re: the purpose of communication [Re: Seuss]
    #1658741 - 06/24/03 04:43 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I am in an ice cream an antique shop right now. Damn, that blueberry cheesecake ice cream cone was delicious.


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Re: the purpose of communication [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1659023 - 06/24/03 06:34 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Communication is a really interesting field of study, especially non-verbal communication, in my opinion.

I agree to your hypothesis to a certain degree, but I think the word 'only' should be taken out of there. A lot of times when I am walking to or from class, or simply sitting outside smoking a cigarette, I will overhear two humans having a completely, utterly, totally (was that redundant enough?) useless conversation.

They are conversing simply because they are walking together, and it is not "normal" to be walking with another human without chit chatting with them. Of course, many times when humans do this, they are communicating for the sake of influencing each other in some way. In some cases, though, words are coming out of people's mouths for entirely no reason at all.

In most of these cases, neither human will remember any detail of the "conversation" a day later. So, I would say that another purpose of communication is to meet social norms, without necessarily having any influence upon a person whatsoever.

Does that make sense?

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InvisibleinfidelGOD
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Re: the purpose of communication [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1659468 - 06/24/03 09:08 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

the purpose of communication is to reaffirm your own beliefs.


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OfflineGixxer_boy
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Re: the purpose of communication [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1659593 - 06/24/03 10:09 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

"They are conversing simply because they are walking together, and it is not "normal" to be walking with another human without chit chatting with them."

Well, theres more to chit-chat then just conforming. I know my ex-girlfriend really hated it when I would just sit in silence, and I always wondered why. It took me a while to get it, but I think a big part of talking is just to feel a certain closeness with someone. Just take a scenario of me walking down the street.

-I walk down street.

-Hot girl is walking down the street, moving in the opposite direction in which I am moving.

-I check her out, attempt to make eye contact and smile.

-She (hopefully) smiles back.

-I feel relieved, smile is a little less stressed.

-We walk by each other, never see each other again.

Now, I suppose you can say that I was attempting to influence the aformentioned hot girl, but I think the actions which I made in the example are more to just express my feelings about another individual, and their reply will convey my feelings about them. When I think about it, there is meaning behind every attempt at communication. It's just not always understandable or realized.

I don't know about anyone else, but when I get really high, I can't stop thinking about human nature and society. Does this happen to any of you?


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Re: the purpose of communication [Re: Gixxer_boy]
    #1659638 - 06/24/03 10:23 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

you cannot tell me you know the purpose of communication. it differs for many people.

resulting in an infinite loop of theorys that are neither right nor wrong.

and people use communication however they want it. to decieve someone, etc.

communication is here so we can just communicate with others. that is all. either that or im just blabbibng because im high. and not thinking straight AT ALL>


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OfflineKenny Bus
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Re: the purpose of communication [Re: shr00m]
    #1660242 - 06/25/03 02:20 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i am the only one who communicates 500x better on shrooms?


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