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Re: Dear 'Muricans, if everything was in place for you to get universal health care, would you take it? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Canada is crap. doesn't mean socialized medicine is all the same the world over.

but i'll repeat, Canada is crap.

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Re: Dear 'Muricans, if everything was in place for you to get universal health care, would you take it? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Gilgamesh18 said:
I would oppose it market forces have an incentive to lower the cost of insurance the government does not.



You would think so but they actually don’t.

They (health care providers) are actually incentivized to collude, due to the nature of the industry (oligopoly).


The true beast in America is Social Security. Not even the craziest of the tea baggers dares to cross the might of the AARP and the hordes of pissed off old people it represents
:oldman:

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Re: Dear 'Muricans, if everything was in place for you to get universal health care, would you take it? [Re: elax420]
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I like being able to go to the doctor within a couple days if I want to, I don't want to wait weeks or even months. Socialism doesn't work.


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Re: Dear 'Muricans, if everything was in place for you to get universal health care, would you take it? [Re: SteelPanther]
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Never once has a pure socialistic country existed, and i would argue is highly improbable if not impossible. Pure capitalism means perfect competition, and if you believe that exists :burke:



Stop trying to make socialism into a bad ward.

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Re: Dear 'Muricans, if everything was in place for you to get universal health care, would you take it? [Re: SteelPanther]
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SteelPanther said:
I like being able to go to the doctor within a couple days if I want to, I don't want to wait weeks or even months. Socialism doesn't work.


You can see a doctor the same morning you went to see him. How crazy is that!!!


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Re: Dear 'Muricans, if everything was in place for you to get universal health care, would you take it? [Re: Patlal]
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:mindblown:

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Re: Dear 'Muricans, if everything was in place for you to get universal health care, would you take it? [Re: Patlal]
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Alot of people in canada and other socialized medicine countries say your often stuck waiting a long time.


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Re: Dear 'Muricans, if everything was in place for you to get universal health care, would you take it? [Re: SteelPanther]
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in America, holograms and robots take care of everyone's health problem's at once.

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Re: Dear 'Muricans, if everything was in place for you to get universal health care, would you take it? [Re: SteelPanther]
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Are you sure that's not just what American talking heads say that a lot of Canadians say?


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it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not."

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Re: Dear 'Muricans, if everything was in place for you to get universal health care, would you take it? [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
SteelPanther said:
I like being able to go to the doctor within a couple days if I want to, I don't want to wait weeks or even months. Socialism doesn't work.


You can see a doctor the same morning you went to see him. How crazy is that!!!



but then you wait 6-10 months to see an oncologist for your butt cancer
and you're then denied treatment so you appeal it and have to wait 90+
days to get a ruling which could be another denial, then another appeal,
then you're in a state where the cancer it inoperable and has spread
so now you simply die having believed that you had universal health care


death panels are great


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Re: Dear 'Muricans, if everything was in place for you to get universal health care, would you take it? [Re: nicechrisman]
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Thats what americans said to me after they got back from the places, they said the people there said that.


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Re: Dear 'Muricans, if everything was in place for you to get universal health care, would you take it? [Re: SteelPanther] * 1
    #20196209 -

Sounds like a game of broken telephone.

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Re: Dear 'Muricans, if everything was in place for you to get universal health care, would you take it? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
Patlal said:
SteelPanther said:
I like being able to go to the doctor within a couple days if I want to, I don't want to wait weeks or even months. Socialism doesn't work.


You can see a doctor the same morning you went to see him. How crazy is that!!!



but then you wait 6-10 months to see an oncologist for your butt cancer
and you're then denied treatment so you appeal it and have to wait 90+
days to get a ruling which could be another denial, then another appeal,
then you're in a state where the cancer it inoperable and has spread
so now you simply die having believed that you had universal health care


death panels are great


people who can't afford the help don't get helped and die vs people who have to wait behind other people ahead of the line who won't get help because they have to wait; and they die.


that's the essential argument.

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Re: Dear 'Muricans, if everything was in place for you to get universal health care, would you take it? [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
Pretty much the same as every other industrialized country. Government provided universal health care. No more insurance, no more monthly payment, no more Obamacare, just universal health care. Swipe your card, recieve treatment and leave without receiving any bills. Tax paid of course, so maybe a few percent more taxes to pay at the  end of the year

Would you support this or do you prefer you expensive public costs + private costs system you have now?

Mwell?


no. what do you mean no more payment? where would the money come from? you can either choose an insurance policy, or pay more taxes. there are no free lunches.

Private all the way.


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Re: Dear 'Muricans, if everything was in place for you to get universal health care, would you take it? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
Patlal said:
SteelPanther said:
I like being able to go to the doctor within a couple days if I want to, I don't want to wait weeks or even months. Socialism doesn't work.


You can see a doctor the same morning you went to see him. How crazy is that!!!



but then you wait 6-10 months to see an oncologist for your butt cancer
and you're then denied treatment so you appeal it and have to wait 90+
days to get a ruling which could be another denial, then another appeal,
then you're in a state where the cancer it inoperable and has spread
so now you simply die having believed that you had universal health care


death panels are great


ok, it happens, like 1 patient for every 10000


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Re: Dear 'Muricans, if everything was in place for you to get universal health care, would you take it? [Re: Patlal]
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like i said, in america they just fix everyone at once. it's the system that's obviously the best. though, if it's expensive and you can't pay, you get your own holographic death panel.


but it's totally different yo.

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Re: Dear 'Muricans, if everything was in place for you to get universal health care, would you take it? [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
Prisoner#1 said:
Patlal said:
SteelPanther said:
I like being able to go to the doctor within a couple days if I want to, I don't want to wait weeks or even months. Socialism doesn't work.


You can see a doctor the same morning you went to see him. How crazy is that!!!



but then you wait 6-10 months to see an oncologist for your butt cancer
and you're then denied treatment so you appeal it and have to wait 90+
days to get a ruling which could be another denial, then another appeal,
then you're in a state where the cancer it inoperable and has spread
so now you simply die having believed that you had universal health care


death panels are great


ok, it happens, like 1 patient for every 10000



so the death panels kill 3400 people each year, how many die from
negligence or neglect, in the US that's 200,000 per year. some
statistics say it's twice as high a rate, 43,000 per year in canada

is that what the US could expect from universal healthcare, doubling the
rate of mortality while under a doctors care due to his negligence


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Re: Dear 'Muricans, if everything was in place for you to get universal health care, would you take it? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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changing anything anywhere is going to effect a bunch of shit, in some ways for the worse, and in some ways for the better. when people get used to the change... the normalcy becomes what was once not, and the ways for the worse or the better even out.

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Re: Dear 'Muricans, if everything was in place for you to get universal health care, would you take it? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #20196419 -

I dunno aythihng about healthcare or governments just all I know is if I can be healthy then its good and if im unhealthy than its bad


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Re: Dear 'Muricans, if everything was in place for you to get universal health care, would you take it? [Re: Sheekle]
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Considering how the government is currently running the VA I'd rather not have universal healthcare.

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