The Marijuana Paradox - The Pub - Shroomery Message Board

We're showing a special theme for the holiday! [ Keep it | Disable it ]

The Shroomery

You are not signed in.
New Account

Forum Index Search Posts Trusted Vendors Highlights Galleries FAQ User List Chat Store Random Growery

This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.

Community > The Pub

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds, Bulk Cannabis Seeds, Feminized Cannabis Seeds, High THC Strains

Jump to first unread post

Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | Next > [ show all ]

Almond Flour
...get off my lawn!

Registered: 12/26/08
Posts: 11,343
Last seen: 1 year, 3 months

The Marijuana Paradox

#17358420 - 12/09/12 01:55 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

It causes psychosis....and yet, it contains an anti psychotic :bored:

:bored:

.....I mean, schizophrenics smoke it all the time.

but on the flip side of the coin one of the biggest arguments against it is exacerbating mental disorder's :shrug:

:shrug:

It makes no sense

--------------------
Hippies and Liberals love Pope Francis, so why dont I quote him for you guys. "There is NO SALVATION outside the Catholic Church" :morningtoke:

:morningtoke:

Extras:

Great Scott
Trigger Lover

Registered: 05/05/03
Posts: 19,804
Loc: Control Grid
Last seen: 5 months, 2 hours

Re: The Marijuana Paradox

[Re: Almond Flour]
#17358450 - 12/09/12 02:01 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Well, okay, but take food for example.
Makes you fat if you eat it too much.
Makes you starve if you eat it too little

:cookiemonster:

:cookiemonster:

--------------------
:thumbup:

:thumbup:

:thumbdown:

Extras:

Almond Flour
...get off my lawn!

Registered: 12/26/08
Posts: 11,343
Last seen: 1 year, 3 months

Re: The Marijuana Paradox

[Re: Great Scott]

2
#17358459 - 12/09/12 02:02 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

PeyoteZen said:

Well, okay, but take food for example.
Makes you fat if you eat it too much.
Makes you starve if you eat it too little

:pokerawe:

.......

:amusedapplause:

--------------------
Hippies and Liberals love Pope Francis, so why dont I quote him for you guys. "There is NO SALVATION outside the Catholic Church" :morningtoke:

:morningtoke:

Extras:

zZZz
jesus

Registered: 12/28/07
Posts: 33,483

Re: The Marijuana Paradox

[Re: Almond Flour]
#17358461 - 12/09/12 02:03 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

it makes perfect sense. if you don't have psychosis stay away from it.

--------------------
https://discord.gg/NHHd5y2Uyv

Extras:

the spiral
Neuroscientist

Registered: 05/13/02
Posts: 1,769
Last seen: 11 years, 3 months

Re: The Marijuana Paradox

[Re: Almond Flour]
#17358472 - 12/09/12 02:05 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

the human brain has endogenous cannabanoid receptors all over the place. Schizophrenia is a disease that has been demonstrated to cause atrophy of the brain in a number of areas, including neocortex and white matter.

Psychedelic drugs, including LSD, pisloc(yb)in, and marijuana, seem to encourage people who are predisposed to these disoders to "snap". It's impossible (at this point) to entirely rule the possibility that these drugs actually *cause* these diseases, but it is clear that they can exacerbate symptoms in people who are predisposed.

The moral of the story is basically this: if you're young, and/or you expect that you or a friend of yours is mentally unstable, you really ought to avoid mind-altering substances. when you're talking about psychedelics, you are literally talking about things that alter your mind. Any engineer will tell you that overloading a weak bridge will make it collapse; bridges can be repaired, but often minds cannot. Please be careful!

That said, have a great trip =)

--------------------

"A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism." - Carl Sagan

Extras:

Almond Flour
...get off my lawn!

Registered: 12/26/08
Posts: 11,343
Last seen: 1 year, 3 months

Re: The Marijuana Paradox

[Re: the spiral]
#17358489 - 12/09/12 02:09 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

the spiral said:

the human brain has endogenous cannabanoid receptors all over the place. Schizophrenia is a disease that has been demonstrated to cause atrophy of the brain in a number of areas, including neocortex and white matter.

Psychedelic drugs, including LSD, pisloc(yb)in, and marijuana, seem to encourage people who are predisposed to these disoders to "snap". It's impossible (at this point) to entirely rule the possibility that these drugs actually *cause* these diseases, but it is clear that they can exacerbate symptoms in people who are predisposed.

The moral of the story is basically this: if you're young, and/or you expect that you or a friend of yours is mentally unstable, you really ought to avoid mind-altering substances. when you're talking about psychedelics, you are literally talking about things that alter your mind. Any engineer will tell you that overloading a weak bridge will make it collapse; bridges can be repaired, but often minds cannot. Please be careful!

That said, have a great trip =)

The real question is.....do you think a guy, whom was easily predisposed to psychotic experiances, could walk life without a SINGLE ONE! had he not tried Marijuana?

In otherwords, had he ate his wheaties, walked on the sidewalk, tucked in his shirt, and ate an apple every day....do you think he could of made it to his death bed without his schitzophrenia kicking in......had he not tried Marijuana :strokebeard:

:strokebeard:

--------------------
Hippies and Liberals love Pope Francis, so why dont I quote him for you guys. "There is NO SALVATION outside the Catholic Church" :morningtoke:

:morningtoke:

Extras:

Almond Flour
...get off my lawn!

Registered: 12/26/08
Posts: 11,343
Last seen: 1 year, 3 months

Re: The Marijuana Paradox

[Re: the spiral]
#17358505 - 12/09/12 02:12 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

the spiral said:

the human brain has endogenous cannabanoid receptors all over the place. Schizophrenia is a disease that has been demonstrated to cause atrophy of the brain in a number of areas, including neocortex and white matter.

Psychedelic drugs, including LSD, pisloc(yb)in, and marijuana, seem to encourage people who are predisposed to these disoders to "snap". It's impossible (at this point) to entirely rule the possibility that these drugs actually *cause* these diseases, but it is clear that they can exacerbate symptoms in people who are predisposed.

The moral of the story is basically this: if you're young, and/or you expect that you or a friend of yours is mentally unstable, you really ought to avoid mind-altering substances. when you're talking about psychedelics, you are literally talking about things that alter your mind. Any engineer will tell you that overloading a weak bridge will make it collapse; bridges can be repaired, but often minds cannot. Please be careful!

That said, have a great trip =)

Not to mention this right here is the psychedelic paradox! I mean......people who are overloaded by life, and on the verge of a breakdown take psychedelics, and can have a life changing experiance that heals them and allows them to make peace with their demons!

And yet..... The same category of people are told to refrain from psychedelics for fear of not comming back?

It makes no sense whatsoever

--------------------
Hippies and Liberals love Pope Francis, so why dont I quote him for you guys. "There is NO SALVATION outside the Catholic Church" :morningtoke:

:morningtoke:

Edited by Almond Flour (12/09/12 02:13 AM)

Extras:

the spiral
Neuroscientist

Registered: 05/13/02
Posts: 1,769
Last seen: 11 years, 3 months

Re: The Marijuana Paradox

[Re: Almond Flour]
#17358655 - 12/09/12 02:52 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

From what I understand (and please keep in mind that I could easily be wrong), people who have a psychotic break after using marjuana (or other psychedelics), and who turn out to have schizophrenia, would have developed the full manifestation of their disease if they had not ever imbibed a psychedelic.

Psychedelics can accelerate the onset of symptoms, but in a healthy person who isn't going to develop the disease, they won't cause you to become schizophrenic.

This is my current understanding of the relationship between psychedelics and schizophrenia. Things become a lot harder to qualify when discussing issues like depression or bipolar disorder, but so far as I have ever heard, psychedelics do not CAUSE mental disorders, but they can exacerbate preexisting mental problems.

i hope that clears this up a little.

Extras:

28064212
Special Agent Dale Cooper

Registered: 01/15/11
Posts: 12,115
Loc: Twin Peaks
Last seen: 5 years, 5 months

Re: The Marijuana Paradox

[Re: the spiral]
#17358676 - 12/09/12 02:59 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Indica... Sativa

--------------------

Extras:

the spiral
Neuroscientist

Registered: 05/13/02
Posts: 1,769
Last seen: 11 years, 3 months

Re: The Marijuana Paradox

1
#17358705 - 12/09/12 03:07 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

28064212 said:

Indica... Sativa

Indica/Sativa 2016!

Extras:

Sham87
hella

Registered: 05/16/11
Posts: 10,444

Re: The Marijuana Paradox

[Re: 28064212]
#17358707 - 12/09/12 03:07 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Ruderalis.

--------------------
:mushroom2:

:mushroom2:

:sun:

:crazy2:

:leaf:

...once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest places if you look at it right...

:feelsgoatman:

Extras:

28064212
Special Agent Dale Cooper

Registered: 01/15/11
Posts: 12,115
Loc: Twin Peaks
Last seen: 5 years, 5 months

Re: The Marijuana Paradox

[Re: the spiral]
#17358733 - 12/09/12 03:12 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Indicas have higher levels of anti-psychotics and relaxing than psychedelic cannabinoids, and sativas the opposite.

--------------------

Extras:

Sophistic Radiance
Free sVs!

Registered: 07/11/06
Posts: 43,135
Loc: Center of the Universe

Re: The Marijuana Paradox

[Re: Almond Flour]

2
#17358738 - 12/09/12 03:14 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

They actually have a strain of weed at the club that only has significant content of the antipsychotic chemical in weed. It doesn't even have THC, so it doesn't get you high, it's just medicinal. :omgz:

:omgz:

Weed just has many chemicals whose effects counterbalance each other.

--------------------
Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.

Extras:

schwarg

Registered: 07/15/12
Posts: 2,817
Loc: San Diego

Re: The Marijuana Paradox

[Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#17358749 - 12/09/12 03:16 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I thought it was...

THC = psychosis inducing
CBD = Anti-psychotic

--------------------

Extras:

Sophistic Radiance
Free sVs!

Registered: 07/11/06
Posts: 43,135
Loc: Center of the Universe

Re: The Marijuana Paradox

[Re: schwarg]
#17358757 - 12/09/12 03:17 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

schwarg said:

I thought it was...

THC = psychosis inducing
CBD = Anti-psychotic

Yeah, it's CBD. I would have mentioned that but I actually forgot what it was called. :wow:

:wow:

--------------------
Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.

Extras:

Almond Flour
...get off my lawn!

Registered: 12/26/08
Posts: 11,343
Last seen: 1 year, 3 months

Re: The Marijuana Paradox

[Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#17358798 - 12/09/12 03:25 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

BlindSophist said:

schwarg said:

I thought it was...

THC = psychosis inducing
CBD = Anti-psychotic

Yeah, it's CBD. I would have mentioned that but I actually forgot what it was called.

They sell pure CBD weed?! Whats it like? Surley you must feel something :strokebeard:

:strokebeard:

--------------------
Hippies and Liberals love Pope Francis, so why dont I quote him for you guys. "There is NO SALVATION outside the Catholic Church" :morningtoke:

:morningtoke:

Extras:

Sophistic Radiance
Free sVs!

Registered: 07/11/06
Posts: 43,135
Loc: Center of the Universe

Re: The Marijuana Paradox

[Re: Almond Flour]
#17358874 - 12/09/12 03:40 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Almond Flour said:

BlindSophist said:

schwarg said:

I thought it was...

THC = psychosis inducing
CBD = Anti-psychotic

Yeah, it's CBD. I would have mentioned that but I actually forgot what it was called.

They sell pure CBD weed?! Whats it like? Surley you must feel something

No, I smoked a bunch of it and you seriously don't feel a thing. CBD is decidedly not psychoactive. AFAIK it actually reduces the THC high.

--------------------
Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.

Extras:

Celestial Traveler
Random Observer

Registered: 03/04/11
Posts: 7,640
Loc: Idaho

Re: The Marijuana Paradox

[Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#17358880 - 12/09/12 03:42 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

BlindSophist said:

Almond Flour said:

BlindSophist said:

schwarg said:

I thought it was...

THC = psychosis inducing
CBD = Anti-psychotic

Yeah, it's CBD. I would have mentioned that but I actually forgot what it was called.

They sell pure CBD weed?! Whats it like? Surley you must feel something

No, I smoked a bunch of it and you seriously don't feel a thing. CBD is decidedly not psychoactive. AFAIK it actually reduces the THC high.

But CBD is what gives you the body high, "stoned" feeling right? So is it to say that that feeling is not psychoactive?

--------------------
Funny Video Pokemon But With Animals Instead B

Extras:

schwarg

Registered: 07/15/12
Posts: 2,817
Loc: San Diego

Re: The Marijuana Paradox

[Re: Almond Flour]
#17358885 - 12/09/12 03:43 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Almond Flour said:

BlindSophist said:

schwarg said:

I thought it was...

THC = psychosis inducing
CBD = Anti-psychotic

Yeah, it's CBD. I would have mentioned that but I actually forgot what it was called.

They sell pure CBD weed?! Whats it like? Surley you must feel something

I got a gram of it free once as a daily special at my weed shop, didn't feel much of anything in terms of a 'high' since that's pretty much entirely the THC's job

--------------------

Extras:

the spiral
Neuroscientist

Registered: 05/13/02
Posts: 1,769
Last seen: 11 years, 3 months

Re: The Marijuana Paradox

[Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#17358890 - 12/09/12 03:45 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

BlindSophist said:

Almond Flour said:

BlindSophist said:

schwarg said:

I thought it was...

THC = psychosis inducing
CBD = Anti-psychotic

Yeah, it's CBD. I would have mentioned that but I actually forgot what it was called.

They sell pure CBD weed?! Whats it like? Surley you must feel something

No, I smoked a bunch of it and you seriously don't feel a thing. CBD is decidedly not psychoactive. AFAIK it actually reduces the THC high.

CBD does have documented psychoactive effects. Compared to smoking marijuana with THC & CBD & all the other combustion/plant derived chemicals, I'm not surprised to hear that ingesting ONLY CBD would feel like "[not] a thing" , but extrapolating that anecdotal experience (especially if you smoke 'regular' marijuana) seems unscientific ...

That said I have never had an opportunty to take pure CBD, but if anyone's offering ...

=)

--------------------

"A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism." - Carl Sagan

Extras:

Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | Next > [ show all ]

Shop: Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds, Bulk Cannabis Seeds, Feminized Cannabis Seeds, High THC Strains

Community > The Pub

		Similar Threads	Poster	Views	Replies	Last post
		Schizophrenia! ( 1 2 all )	RedRabbit	5,468	37	07/09/07 03:59 AM by lolwhut
		I think i might be schizophrenic ( 1 2 all )	DeadPhan	5,457	31	07/23/10 01:32 PM by conan
		How do you describe a marijuana intoxication	tamshack	3,356	18	05/24/07 03:53 PM by DragonHero
		Ireland's Marijuana laws	Terrapin77	3,104	11	08/04/06 02:38 AM by Terrapin77
		WARNING: MARIJUANA CAUSES PARANOIA! ( 1 2 all )	Scratcher	4,882	36	11/15/05 04:46 PM by Microcosmatrix
		Does anyone have schizophrenia? ( 1 2 all )	Captain Loafy McPoopdick	2,926	26	08/26/05 11:41 AM by fredyjenkins
		music, schizophrenia, and drugs	fearfect	844	3	06/15/05 12:04 AM by ToTheSummit
		mathematical paradox ( 1 2 3 4 all )	Krishna	5,068	72	07/21/11 07:05 PM by illusionsofman

Extra information

You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Entire Staff
1,878 topic views. 1 members, 53 guests and 213 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]

Happy Halloween from The Shroomery!

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.