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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: ballsalsa]
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Calm down, I didn't lie, mistakes happen. Like I said, I don't put much effort in because it doesn't change anything, but Canada having the refineries doesn't change what I've said. Canada can't build anymore.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Why-Canada-Would-Rather-Export-Oil-Than-Refine-It.html

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Despite boasting one of the highest proven oil reserves in the world -- second only to Saudi Arabia at 175 billion barrels-- a high percentage of Canadian crude is shipped across the border for refining in the United States. This has led to charges that Canada is selling out its vast oil resources to the U.S. and failing to uphold the national interest in ensuring that refineries are built in Canada, with the benefits accruing to Canadians.




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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: ballsalsa] * 2
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ballsalsa said:
Do you support the actions of the Russian military in Ukraine, yes or no?

I'm just getting everything out in the open.  Nothing quite like saying the quiet part out loud, eh?



I'll tell you who I don't support, the regime of the most corrupt country in Europe that had 100000 troops lined up ready to wipe out an ethnic minority, backed by U.S. money. Yeah I don't support them.
Does that mean I 100% support Russia?, not really but it's nice to see the U.S. government's plan failing, Yeah I like that bit.

I actually feel sorry for you guys, the peasants in the U.S., paying for all this. Your government sucks but most of you are alright. I think that aligns with most of the thinking in this entire forum, that your government is shit.

Are you 100% supportive of everything your government has done in the events leading up to this conflict? Are you 100% happy that Biden or any other politician or diplomat didn't screw with anything in the decades leading up to this?

I doubt that you or others would be, and if that's the case it's childish to boil everything down to this "but but Russia invaded" line = you guys are bad too. Ya know?

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Stable Genius]
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r3volution.gurl said:
I don't put much effort in



We know

Stable Genius said:
you guys are bad too. Ya know?



Yes. It's actually a refreshing change of pace for someone else to be the villain

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: chopstick]
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chopstick said:
Russia is the closest thing to "good" in this conflict, as many shades of grey as there may be, and so the only moral choice to make is either to support them, or be neutral and not support either side.

It's truly hilarious to watch you pretend like you have some kind of moral high ground as you stand on the side of a motley crew of rapists & murderers covered in Swastikas & Bandera tattoos. The only explanation for this is that you just don't care.. hating Russia is more important to you. Getting in your five minutes of hate against Russia is more important to you, even if it means siding with mass murdering NeoNazi scum like Azov, Right Sector, Tornado battalion, and all the rest. The same is true for koods, shivas, and many other posters in this thread. The truth doesn't matter to you people.

This forum proves to me everyday that liberals have no moral fiber. None whatsoever. They don't care how hypocritical, how arrogant, how bigoted they come off as being. They don't care about siding with terrorists - afterall, they already did it in both Libya and Syria while Obama was president, and now they're doing it with Ukraine after Biden came to power. This is nothing new for you folks. After-all, supporting terrorists does not affect your life directly. It's not your family or friends being raped, murdered, tortured and executed by Bandera-worshipping criminals. So, you have no reason to care - hating Russia is more important.

How many times has proof of what I'm saying been posted here? How many times have examples of Ukraine's warcrimes and degenerate, despicable nature been posted here? Too many times to count. You have ignored it every step of the way, just to avoid having to concede that you were actually wrong about something for once. The massive liberal ego is entirely incapable of admitting fault or admitting being wrong, ever.. even when it is blatantly obvious.

The war in Ukraine is just another instance of the United States taking the worst of the worst criminal scum and supporting them because they are convenient proxies. From supporting Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan in the 80's, to supporting them again in Chechnya in the 90's and early 2000's, to supporting death squads and brutal dictators in Latin America, to supporting Al-Qaeda again in Libya 2011 to remove Gaddhafi, to once again supporting Al-Qaeda *and* ISIS in Syria to try to remove Assad, and now this... the US support for actual legit NeoNazi's in Ukraine is just another thing on a very, very long list of crimes the US has committed to maintain global control. But none of this matters to you - hating Russia is more important than having to admit that we should not have supported terrorists in Libya, Syria, and we should not be supporting Nazi's in Ukraine. The crimes these terrorist groups commit simply don't matter to you - hating Russia is more important.

You can stick your head in the sand but that doesn't mean you are superior to everybody else for doing so. Quite the opposite. You are one of the types that will have your head buried in the sand all the way until the bitter end..



:nowaydude: :knockmeonmyass:  :super:

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
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ballsalsa said:
Yes. It's actually a refreshing change of pace for someone else to be the villain



:nojustno:

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: koods]
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koods said:
I cannot fathom the level of western arrogance when someone like stable genius essentially denies the agency of people in foreign lands to decide for themselves when they are tired of their own government. It’s really gross to just label every coup American orchestrated. I’m not exactly sure how the CIA convinces millions of people to protest their own government.

What I do know is the invasion and overthrow of the locally elected governments in eastern Ukraine has been solely orchestrated by the Russian government.



You just can't fathom how it's done?  oh rily?

https://steemit.com/ukraine/@zak.totkoff/cia-revolutions-d8efbf3777106

Brian Boyenger, U.S. mercenary fighting with the Georgian Legion in eastern Ukraine asking the U.S. Senate for more $$ in 2017

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Stable Genius] * 1
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Mercenaries have no loyalty besides money. That's the whole point of being a mercenary.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Kryptos] * 1
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Cool so you're proving my point, why someone like that get's to address the U.S. Senate asking for money :thumbup:

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Stable Genius]
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I can address the US senate asking for money if I wanted. You can do the same.

That's the job description for mercenary. You are a professional fighter. So, you travel the world looking for fights to join. Then you ask for money.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Stable Genius]
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Literally anyone can make a vid addressing any house of Congress they want.  Hell, you could do the same right now if you felt like it.

Did he get his money?

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: ballsalsa]
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The US pushed the scales in favor of what was already a favorable opportunity. Against a Russian Puppet. And that's about that.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
Literally anyone can make a vid addressing any house of Congress they want.  Hell, you could do the same right now if you felt like it.

Did he get his money?



:awkwardconfusion:

I assumed it was played to the Senate/Congress?

Did he get any money? I guess yes.
What was John McCain and Lindsey Graham doing there in 2016 with the 'your fight is our fight' speech? Seems it's all connected to me :shrug:

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Stable Genius]
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First thing he says is "good afternoon Senators I wish I could be with you there today". Why would he begin with an opening line like that? This isn't a random Joe like myself addressing the government :shrug:

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Stable Genius]
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Exactly, you assumed it was played for the Senate.  I can't find anything to indicate that it was, can you?

You guess? 

Your big evidence is that a guy gave a speech on youtube that you assume was played for Congress and you guess he probably received money?  Am I reading that right?

Edit: I'll start your research for you.  If that speech was played for the Senate it will be in one of these 20 videos of Senate sessions between 9/1/17 and 10/1/17

I've also narrowed the search a bit to this session which took place the day that your speech video is actually dated.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: ballsalsa] * 2
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That's right I ASSUMED, that's why I said that, and yes I did some GUESSING. My apologies for being honest.

Ah you're too clever for me, I GUESS there's nothing to see here about an ex marine U.S. mercenary in Ukraine who's been named as part of the conspiracy to shoot protesters at the 2014 Maidan asking the government for money. I'm so STUPID for raising this.

Ok onto the important stuff; How to survive a nuclear holocaust in New York City.

Disclaimer. Whatever you do, don't ASSUME or GUESS this has anything to do with current events/the war/special military operation in Ukraine, it's just helpful advice. God bless America.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/get-inside-new-york-city-ad-surviving-nuclear-attack-raises-eyebrows-2022-07-13/

The lady in the video neglected to add, Step 4. Stick your head between your legs and kiss your arse goodbye.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Stable Genius]
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The guy seems like he might be some kind of scumbag, for whatever it's worth. I just don't see any evidence that he's a politically important scumbag. :shrug:

As for the ad, seems like standard cold war style scare tactics to make the public feel threatened by foreign nuclear powers (read as: DRPK, China, Russia).  Do I think that's a great idea? No.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: ballsalsa]
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Stable Genius]
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That add is the stupidest thing I've seen for a while, and there's plenty of stupid things to choose
from.
If this is what the idiots running the show do with tax money New York is in trouble. Wtf

:wtf3:

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Stable Genius] * 1
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Stable Genius said:
That's right I ASSUMED, that's why I said that, and yes I did some GUESSING. My apologies for being honest.




Hey, all things aside, we'd probably have better discussions in here if we could admit when we're speculating and guessing.

Like, at least a part of the basis of my opinion on the topic is based on personal speculation that the 2014 pro-russia separatists in the east amounted to very few ukrainians and a whole lot of russians. I can't really prove that beyond pointing out that russia admitted to training rebels and having troops in the area, and some reports of indirect fire coming from russia... Nothing to hang my hat on, but enough to make me suspicious...

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Stable Genius]
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I read that blog and even the sputnik articles that it cites.  Was there supposed to be something there to implicate the U.S.?

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