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Picaro
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 Ready in time for Thanksgiving? 
#3261282 - 10/21/04 05:00 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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After my failure of all 10 jars to bacterial contamination a few days ago, I decided to buy a PC today. And I ordered new spores from Spores101 (GT and Cambodian) and some course verm. I still have about 3lbs of BRF from Mycosupply. If I start now and use the Cambodian strain, what is the likelihood that I will have SOME mature mushrooms by Thanksgiving? (When I come home and see all my friends still in the area heh).
If I were to use the Karo Tek with the Cambodian strain would that speed things up? Or is it the same because I'd have to wait a week for that to be ready anyway? I think it might be a better idea to do that anyway because of my past failures, but I'm not sure. Any ideas?
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Re: Ready in time for Thanksgiving? [Re: MoneyAddyct]
#3261300 - 10/21/04 05:04 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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i doubt you are going to be in time for thanksgiving. you should pc some wbs for a quicker jar colonization time if you even want to meet that thanksgiving deadline. brf will take too long
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MoneyAddyct
Picaro
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Re: Ready in time for Thanksgiving? [Re: TODAY]
#3261368 - 10/21/04 05:16 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hmm..Is there a link to a WBS tek? Where can wbs be found? I'd hate to use a substrate I've never tried seeing as though even the BRF didn't work, but I'd love to have some shrooms by Thanksgiving.
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Sam1912
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Re: Ready in time for Thanksgiving? [Re: TODAY]
#3261389 - 10/21/04 05:20 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think you can do it. 36 days until thanksgivings day. I don't like the idea of trying to find first success with strict time line, but I think the average for PF Tek is about 30 days. That means, though, you'll really have to stick to ideals. And if you don't get your spores before Saturday... well... you know you'll really be short on time.
Is it possible? yeah.
Is it plausible? given you are still looking for first success, no.
Should you even try it? It's worth a shot IMO.
Advice? Keep it clean and stick to ideal conditions.
Good luck, MoneyAddict.
Sam
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MoneyAddyct
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Re: Ready in time for Thanksgiving? [Re: Sam1912]
#3261424 - 10/21/04 05:28 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks Sam. And I already have my spores. Should I do the Karo tek or inoculate directly? With the PC, 45 mins at 15 psi - correct?
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Sam1912
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Re: Ready in time for Thanksgiving? [Re: MoneyAddyct]
#3261472 - 10/21/04 05:40 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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45min to an hour. Don't rush yourself too much... You only get a 1 shot at this grow if you want it by thanksgivings weekend. Gotta make sure you do everything well.
I'd normally recommend karo tek, but that could be additional risk. It's not much risk, but still is more risk... You can always start the liquid culture and start the jars all at the same time... maybe get some more jars for the liquid culture. It takes time to make liquid culture. I think it'll about break even timewise since liq cult will cost you extra time to inoculation time. I think you'll have to make that decision.
You might want to do 5 jars today and another 5 tomorrow.. just so you have 2 completely separate batches... In case of contam, you know... make sure you lable them, too. Good luck!
Sam
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MoneyAddyct
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Re: Ready in time for Thanksgiving? [Re: Sam1912]
#3261479 - 10/21/04 05:43 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Unfortunately I can't start today. I could do the Karo tek today (if I can incubate at room temp. for a few days) but I can't prepare the substrate/verm and inoculate today. My dad's coming to visit me tomorrow so I'd have to wait until Sun. when he leaves. That's why I thought if I could do the Karo tek, then I could do that today (assuming I could incubate at room temp. til Sun) since that won't take long at all (just 15 mins in PC according to scatman).
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Sam1912
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Re: Ready in time for Thanksgiving? [Re: MoneyAddyct]
#3261534 - 10/21/04 05:56 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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I can't recommend 1 way or another. I don't have any experience with karo. I'm get my results from using a lot of spore solutions. I bought prints and they gave me lots of spore solution to work with, you know. I suggest you wait for an experienced person's advice. I don't think waiting few hours would really hurt. But I do wish you good luck and let us know what happens, okay?
Good luck.
Sam
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MoneyAddyct
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Re: Ready in time for Thanksgiving? [Re: Sam1912]
#3261549 - 10/21/04 05:58 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Definitely. Hopefully scatman will see this post. He seems to be the resident Karo guru, at least IMO.
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george castanza
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 Re: Ready in time for Thanksgiving? [Re: MoneyAddyct]
#3261560 - 10/21/04 06:01 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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inoculate those Cambodians and you should have fruit( if you incubate and fruit optimally) in 35 days way easy with brf...
here is a plan...
i assume your using the PF TEK
you'll need a good incubator to keep them at 85F
and we know your going to fruit them in a pmp! 
3 weeks to colonize
2 weeks to fruit
i'd say that should be no prob with a good incubator and a good pod...
don't forget to dunk and roll 
read this a couple times while incubating
and BH's ultimate link! 
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MoneyAddyct
Picaro
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Awesome. Thanks a lot. I already have a tub-in-a-tub and the makings of a PMP--I just need the Geolite. And I'll inoculate the Cambod's directly--thanks for the info.
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george castanza
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Re: Ready in time for Thanksgiving? [Re: MoneyAddyct]
#3261609 - 10/21/04 06:14 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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perlite works great in the pmp and it is real easy to find
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MoneyAddyct
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Re: Ready in time for Thanksgiving? [Re: MoneyAddyct]
#3261621 - 10/21/04 06:16 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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What will I need from BH's untimate link? It just provides feed stores that sell hay and such and I'm using the PF-Tek.
Also, in Magash's PF-Tek grow-log...he tapes the holes shut with electric tape and doesnt use tin foil. Is that recommended? I was always under the impression that tape was to be avoided.
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Magash
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Re: Ready in time for Thanksgiving? [Re: MoneyAddyct]
#3261835 - 10/21/04 06:58 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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I like to use the tape till the myc gets to about 10 to 20% of the jars surface. I fig why loose moisture when the myc hasn't started yet. (but no the tape isn't needed )
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MoneyAddyct
Picaro
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Re: Ready in time for Thanksgiving? [Re: Magash]
#3261908 - 10/21/04 07:17 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Would using tape help to better prevent contams (such as bacterial contamination) than the tin foil? Is regular scotch tape suitable? I'm willing to try anything so as not to be contamed again.
Edited by MoneyAddyct (10/21/04 07:18 PM)
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