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Re: My friend had a stroke and is paralyzed. [Re: nicechrisman]
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See update in OP. She was on molly when it happened.


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Re: My friend had a stroke and is paralyzed. [Re: searching]
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Can she move her left side?


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Re: My friend had a stroke and is paralyzed. [Re: whatsgrimace]
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I don't think so. I didn't stay long when I visited her because she wanted to sleep. But one side of her face didn't move and was extremely swollen from the surgery. It was hard to see her like that.

She is gaining back her abilities though because before she couldn't even talk. Now she can talk just fine, but was pretty out of it from pain medication. Some things she was saying didn't make sense.


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Re: My friend had a stroke and is paralyzed. UPDATE 11/18/14 [Re: searching] * 1
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Well if the hospital knew she took molly then they would for sure drug test her. She came from a music festival. Once visibly intoxicated and endangering your life you have no say over forced catheters/drug toxicology/drug IV. Obviously she was fucked up. 500mg of MDMA for a girl.. wtf.. It is also something that would need to be documented I have read articles of MDMA induced strokes and they are thoroughly investigated.

- It is very likely that a spike in blood pressure caused her mini stroke and then she fell and broke her leg. She was most likely very disorientated. It is possible for trauma to cause a stoke aka subarachnoid hemorrhage but using MRI you can see if that is what induced the stroke or not. I feel the drug would much more readily be the culprit. Cerebral infarction is what most likely happened.

Here is an article documenting a non-fatal MDMA stroke via Cerebral infarction. He lived too. Probably some problems I could only imagine.

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A 20 years old male was admitted to the Emergency Room, with confusion and profound sweating. His initial laboratory tests were normal. Soon thereafter a right hemiparesis, dysarthria, and subsequent deterioration of consciousness level were established. Babinski sign was positive in both legs. During the episode flumazenil, naloxone and corticosteroids were administered. Ophtalmoplegia, dysarthria, temperature of 39°C, cardiac arrhythmias, and rhabdomyolysis were also present. Urine analysis was proved positive for methylenedioxymethamphetamine cannabinoids and benzodiazepines. Until that time the patient denied any use of illegal narcotics. A head computed tomography scan (CT) upon his admission showed no abnormalities, but subsequent Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI) revealed an ischemic infarct in the brainstem. The patient has been transferred to the ICU. Two days later, a new CT scan confirmed the presence of the infarct. During his stay in the ICU the patient has been monitored for arrhythmias, was hydrated and rhabdomyolysis was appropriately managed. Five days latter following a partial recovery the patient was discharged. No other obvious causes that may have led to cerebral infarction, including potential cardiovascular pathology, abnormalities of blood coagulation or collagen vascular disease or others were found in extensive laboratory work up.

Because of its worldwide illicit use, MDMA merits a better understanding. The postmortem findings in deaths associated with ecstasy, include liver abnormalities, varying from foci of individual cell necrosis to hepatic necrosis, myocardial injuries consistent with catecholamine induced damage, whilst perivascular haemorrhagic and hypoxic changes have been identified in the brain4. MDMA has been associated with cerebrovascular accidents, and although this fact is widely accepted, there are only few case reports described. From our search in bibliography we found only six relevant case reports of ischaemic stroke following ecstasy use. A possible interpretation of these incidents has been proposed from the work of Reneman and al who were based on single photon emission CT and have concluded that there is an altered regulation of 5HT2A receptors in MDMA users implicating that they may be at risk for cerebrovascular accidents due to abnormal vascular reactions. 5

Available data imply a strong association between MDMA abuse and cerebral infraction. Our presentation, added to the previous relevant case reports on ecstasy adverse effects, aims at underlining the importance of drug abuse inclusion in the differential diagnosis of cerebral infraction in young adults.



Source: https://ispub.com/IJEICM/8/1/4514

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Re: My friend had a stroke and is paralyzed. UPDATE 11/18/14 [Re: Gorlax]
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Wow mdma really is easy to overdose on if you aren't careful what you are doing. It sucks that someone I know is in this position because she was un-informed. This could have been prevented by using a mg scale and staying at a reasonable dose.


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Re: My friend had a stroke and is paralyzed. UPDATE 7/20/15 [Re: searching]
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See update in OP. Thanks to everyone who donated but I'm sad to say that Heather has passed away.


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Re: My friend had a stroke and is paralyzed. UPDATE 7/20/15 [Re: searching]
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Re: My friend had a stroke and is paralyzed. UPDATE 7/20/15 [Re: searching]
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Sorry to hear that op. :feelsbadman:


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Re: My friend had a stroke and is paralyzed. UPDATE 7/20/15 [Re: King Klick]
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FUCK.

I hate hearing about shit like this. My condolences to her family :sad:

It sucks that people get dealt such shitty hands sometimes.

RIP Heather.


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Re: My friend had a stroke and is paralyzed. UPDATE 7/20/15 [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
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Delt shitty hands? She died of complications from a drug overdose.


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Re: My friend had a stroke and is paralyzed. UPDATE 7/20/15 [Re: Shins]
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Idk. I have friends that take 500 mg throughout the night with no problems whatsoever :shrug:

And besides, I was trying to not be a dick and say "Welp she deserved it!"


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Re: My friend had a stroke and is paralyzed. UPDATE 7/20/15 [Re: Shins]
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Shins said:
Delt shitty hands? She died of complications from a drug overdose.



Regardless of how the stroke happened, it is shitty what happened in the ER that led up to her death. That part was out of her direct control and yes, she was "Dealt a bad hand" in that situation


I am super sorry to hear this op, my condolences :sad:


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Re: My friend had a stroke and is paralyzed. UPDATE 7/20/15 [Re: Shins]
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my sincerest condolences. this brought a tear to my eye OP and i cant express how sorry i am this happened. im a stroke survivor myself. i hope she went peacefully. its a very scary situation but i can tell you that having as good of a friend as you seem to be made a world of difference to her in her time of need. theres nothing  more valuable then having someone who cares in that kind of situation. your a good person and you should be damn proud of that.
+5 :mushroom2:


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Re: My friend had a stroke and is paralyzed. UPDATE 7/20/15 [Re: searching]
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It sucks that people are in a position that they often don't even know what they're taking.  It sucks that research and awareness about responsible use comes second after outright prohibition.  Most of all it sucks that this girl is no longer with her friends and family.

Thanks for the info OP, even if it is bad news, you seem like a true friend and I think you make it clear the type of person she was.  When something like this happens you realize that nothing is more important than that love between family and friends, so keep keeping that spirit alive and she will always be a part of you.

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Re: My friend had a stroke and is paralyzed. UPDATE 7/20/15 [Re: searching]
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rip to ur beautiful friend.. :peace:


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Re: My friend had a stroke and is paralyzed. UPDATE 7/20/15 [Re: searching]
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I am so terribly sorry I don't know what to say.

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Re: My friend had a stroke and is paralyzed. UPDATE 7/20/15 [Re: zZZz] * 1
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Thanks guys.  Yeah, I know a lot of people on here and in real life that push the dosage of mdma.  It's made me re-think how much I take a night.  Hopefully people on here re-think it as well.  Just think, she was just trying to have a good time and took one too many molly pills and it ended up killing her.

I also found out that when she collapsed at the festival, her "friend" picked her up and wouldn't take her to get medical attention.  At the end of the night he brought her back to the hotel and didn't tell anyone in fear of getting in trouble for giving her the drugs.  He waited until the next morning when she couldn't even talk or walk to get help.  Time lost is brain lost when it comes to strokes.


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Re: My friend had a stroke and is paralyzed. UPDATE 7/20/15 [Re: searching]
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searching said:
Thanks guys.  Yeah, I know a lot of people on here and in real life that push the dosage of mdma.  It's made me re-think how much I take a night.  Hopefully people on here re-think it as well.  Just think, she was just trying to have a good time and took one too many molly pills and it ended up killing her.

I also found out that when she collapsed at the festival, her "friend" picked her up and wouldn't take her to get medical attention.  At the end of the night he brought her back to the hotel and didn't tell anyone in fear of getting in trouble for giving her the drugs.  He waited until the next morning when she couldn't even talk or walk to get help.  Time lost is brain lost when it comes to strokes.



Holy shit is he in jail?  Because he fucking should be just for depraved indifference.


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Re: My friend had a stroke and is paralyzed. UPDATE 7/20/15 [Re: searching] * 1
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searching said:
Thanks guys.  Yeah, I know a lot of people on here and in real life that push the dosage of mdma.  It's made me re-think how much I take a night.  Hopefully people on here re-think it as well.  Just think, she was just trying to have a good time and took one too many molly pills and it ended up killing her.

I also found out that when she collapsed at the festival, her "friend" picked her up and wouldn't take her to get medical attention.  At the end of the night he brought her back to the hotel and didn't tell anyone in fear of getting in trouble for giving her the drugs.  He waited until the next morning when she couldn't even talk or walk to get help.  Time lost is brain lost when it comes to strokes.



I swear there needs to be laws EVERYWHERE in place that protects people from getting prosecuted for bringing someone or just going in yourself to get help for overdoses. I am glad we have them here in Colorado, I see lots of people rushing people who take too many drugs to the medics and it didn't used to be like that.

Like you said, every second that passes by without medical care is a second that they are loosing more and more brain cells and really it is gambling with the life of a person.

Did she take all 500mg at once? That is definitely a lot of MDMA at once, and even for one person over the entire course of the night that much can be pretty unsafe

Again, I feel so sorry op. I really feel bad when I hear stuff like this happening. This world needs better education on drugs with proper harm reduction and people shouldn't have to ask questions like "Do I go to jail or do I help them?" when every second counts.


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Re: My friend had a stroke and is paralyzed. UPDATE 7/20/15 [Re: Gottaloveacid]
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The world doesn't need better education, people like this do.

she went and did hard drugs and overdosed.  She never researched dosage.  Frankly I feel terrible for her family that she died and in such a stupid way.  I'm kinda pissed actually.  Makes molly look bad too.


regardless of all that I just realized that its super strange that this basically "gofundme" thread popped up now when that other one I on the front page too.  I have strong suspicions that we all might be getting played.


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