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I know I do.  I really do love them, and they are my closest and oldest friends.  I do have other friends that like to roll, but not many that like to trip.  I wish I had more tripper friends.

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You know whats good for you, as long as your responsible about it all, then who's to judge?

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I agree. 

Phishy, you have all of us as tripper friends!  I'm sure all of us would trip with you if we were close enough to do so.

So the problem is that we don't live in a close enough area.

The solution is all Shroomerites need to sell their houses and move into one city in one state, or else just all move out of the country together.   I'm up for it.

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Each day of my life is lived like an adventure, and each day of my life is an adventure, lived to the fullest. I wouldn't have it any other way, and I'm sure you wouldn't either!

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Phishgrrl said:
I don't know what happened to my friends. If they "grew up", then please, God, never let that happen to me.  We used to all be big deadheads and go to all the west coast shows, do lots of acid, backpacking, climbing, and hiking and party really hard, and have a great time.  Now they are all buttoned up and condescending to anyone that doesn't fit their idea of "socially correct" or "mature" or SOMETHING, I don't know what.

Now I tell them about my experience last week with the shrooms and the rolls and they either look at me really funny and laugh while rolling their eyes at me or act like I'm crazy. One that acted like I was stupid is the same person that did acid when she was pregnant at 17. Jesus Christ, which one of us is stupid?

I just wish they would realize that one can live a balanced healthy life while still making use of plant allies and other insightful chemicals. Hmph!

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Hey Phishy,

I think that there is so much pressure in society to conform, that some people just can't take it and they give in to that pressure.  Then they become one of "Them."  I think it's really sad, especially when I hear of people pretending like all their experiences with psychedelics never happened.  I bet that guilt is partially a reason why people like your friends change like that.  Even in the age of information there is so much stigma against psychedelics and those who want to experience them.  The goal of the government is to make people feel guilty and bad for doing drugs of all sort.  It takes a strong willed person to stand up to societal pressures over a long period of time. 

I guess that's why a community like the Shroomery is so important.  We're united in a common cause to lift one another up and persevere against those innane pressures.  We understand that one can be a productive member of society AND have a healthy relationship with our plant allies.  We are here to reaffirm one another. 

Maybe your friends need a "check-up" with Dr. Mushroom. 

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the negative side of drugs is rarely if ever discussed at this site. it is just as one-sided as any anti-drug site you'll find.

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let's take a moment to remember all those times we've smoked the money we were supposed to use to pay bills.

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let's think about the money we've bummed from mom and dad when our own selfishness and irresponsibility has left us in debt to drug dealers.

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let's think about all those times we've sat around hating ourselves for being withdrawn from society and those considered "normal".

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let's think about the types of people who end up with our hard earned money, because it's probably not that sweet faced local drug dealer. he is only getting the crumbs of a very large pie.

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let's think about how we've changed ourselves to conform to the ideals of others, but how we tell ourselves we are different.

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let's think about all the times we've drove intoxicated and the consequences of this action should everything not go as planned.

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let's think about all those times we've watched our friends do more than they could handle and not said or done anything.

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let's think about the times when we were just looking for a good time and took things too far...and while we think about that, let's take another dose...we can handle it. the list goes on..

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drugs are for the weak. lacking personal strength and security, you are the creation of a system that uses you. if living in denial is being an adult to you, you have a long way to go.

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drugs are for the weak. lacking personal strength and security, you are the creation of a system that uses you. if living in denial is being an adult to you, you have a long way to go.

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psychedelic drugs have not made anyone more responsible or shown anyone anything life changing.

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psychedelic drugs have not made anyone more responsible or shown anyone anything life changing.

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oDin said:
i love this thread....all i got to say is welcome to my world. all my HS friends, except annie, are all like that. even many post HS friends. but i was headed down that path at one point...then i started thinking "is this how i want to spend my days...like this?". at that point said goodbye to the seach for the "american dream" and started to follow my heart....life is good...

finding new friends to do camping, sking, tripping and so on hasnt been that hard with the shroomery to help.

btw im thinking january for a desert winter backpacking trip so far...tripping encouraged if desired

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Mushmonkey said:
I'll never stop making fart jokes
and I'll never stop smoking pot
and I'll never completely stop tripping (although slowing down has worked out to be a good idea for me)

i'm not sure if you should ever get to the point where you couldn't sit down, eat a bunch of shrooms, and just grin as you watch the sun rise, as you feel the grass below you move as if it were waves on the ocean, listen to the bird echoing in your skull, feeling the warmth of the sun come across the face of the earth and slowly remove the chill of the night, watch the sky hit every color between black and bright blue
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you may feel drug laws are unjust and oppressive, but they are what they are. the choice to use drugs is your own. you are aware of the consequences and have no one but yourself to blame when you face them. part of being an adult is accepting the things you can't change and focusing on the things you can.

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psychedelic drugs have not made anyone more responsible or shown anyone anything life changing. the people who believe this concept do not believe in themselves. the ideals you share with your peers at this site are not your own, but were given to you just like a christian's ideal of jesus.

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you are confused, and probably have been since you were a young boy...and i know a little something about that condescending attitude you have toward people here, and no doubt in your real life. happy, healthy and responsible? you don't have to admit anything to anyone, but you know the difference between reality and what you just claimed to be.

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the negative side of drugs is rarely if ever discussed at this site. it is just as one-sided as any anti-drug site you'll find.

let's take a moment to remember all those times we've smoked the money we were supposed to use to pay bills. let's think about all those times we have called in sick for work because we partyed too hard the night before. let's think about the money we've bummed from mom and dad when our own selfishness and irresponsibility has left us in debt to drug dealers. let's think about all those times we've sat around hating ourselves for being withdrawn from society and those considered "normal". let's think about having nothing to do while we consume the money which we could have invested into something more long-term than a high. let's think about the intolerance we feel toward opinions which differ from our own. let's think about all those people who "just don't get it", because there are a hell of a lot of them and we tend to avoid those types. let's think about how we choose to do something which has the potential of taking away all of our freedoms if we are found in possession of it. let's think about the types of people who end up with our hard earned money, because it's probably not that sweet faced local drug dealer. he is only getting the crumbs of a very large pie. let's think about how we've changed ourselves to conform to the ideals of others, but how we tell ourselves we are different. let's think about all the times we've drove intoxicated and the consequences of this action should everything not go as planned. let's think about all those times we've watched our friends do more than they could handle and not said or done anything. let's think about the times when we were just looking for a good time and took things too far...and while we think about that, let's take another dose...we can handle it. the list goes on..

drugs are for the weak. lacking personal strength and security, you are the creation of a system that uses you. if living in denial is being an adult to you, you have a long way to go.

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Here are some things about me you may not know:

I am an adult. I live in the suburbs with my dog, 3 cats, 2 kids and my partner. We make a decent living. I clean my house, and take really good care of my kids. I am a great mother. I read to them everyday and make them meals of organic, whole foods.  I am as responsible as I can as far as the environment goes. I have an organic garden and recycle. I put hours and hours of work into the politics I believe in every year. I donate hundreds and hundreds of dollars to the politicians I believe can make a difference.  I donate hundreds of dollars to environmental and humanitarian charities such as Heifer international, Amnesty International, Public Citizen, WWF, etc.  I volunteer at my kids' schools.  I am a kind person and look for the core of goodness in everything and everyone.
I love literature and art. I appreciate someone who has creativity and uses it.
Here are some other things about me:
I love magic mushrooms: from spore to mycelium, to fruit, to ingestion- I revere them.
I am in awe of the beautiful ways nature provides for our enlightenment.
I love music, and dancing, and the Grateful Dead.
I love to party with my friends.
I am a highschool dropout and proud of it. I think our public school system is a brainwashing machine that produces ignorant fools.
I like to fuck around and make jokes and be silly as hell.

I guess I'm just trying to illustrate the point that it is pretty ridiculous to judge that people who use drugs are one and the same, in your words: "weak" and "in denial". In my experience, neither of those words would classify most of the people who use the Shroomery boards.

Now that you know more about me, please feel free to judge me.

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all people move on in their lives, some may stop using psychedelics, some don't. I respect all of them, it's their own decision. But it's sad that they mock people who still use psychedelics now when they used to do it themselves.

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