BothHands said:

Low libido can also be caused by any number of things, like depression.  Low testosterone is just the most common.

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Well, testosterone therapy,, if you read carefully, helped people with NORMAL testosterone levels, thereby neutralizing the theory that low-levels(not normal) of testosterone are the cause of low libido.

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AlphaFalfa said:

I laugh because the majority of you all don't even want to accept that sexuality isn't all about some sort of quasi-evolutionary mechanism.

Clearly it has FUCK all to do with genetics and evolution, when a 15 year old boy, nonetheless finds it arousing to shall we say, delve into some finely matured wine?



I wish I could say I kid, but this shit speaks for itself.

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KillaFoRilla said:

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But as a whole, sexuality is definitely a combination of both nature and nurture.

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Getting groped not by one but multiple old women was one of my more awkward moments,
irregardless of whether its fucking nature or nurture.

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BothHands said:

BothHands said:

Low libido can also be caused by any number of things, like depression.  Low testosterone is just the most common.

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Your study shows that it gave improvement in 6/8 women, and a 7th experienced partial improvment.  That's a pretty large percentage.

And again, the 8th person might have had low libido due to something else, like depression.



And this study on rams shows that they consistantly mate more often when they have more testosterone:

http://jas.fass.org/cgi/content/abstract/43/3/644

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Rocker232 said:

AlphaFalfa said:

I laugh because the majority of you all don't even want to accept that sexuality isn't all about some sort of quasi-evolutionary mechanism.

Clearly it has FUCK all to do with genetics and evolution, when a 15 year old boy, nonetheless finds it arousing to shall we say, delve into some finely matured wine?



I wish I could say I kid, but this shit speaks for itself.

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Definitely a strong case. Taking one person out of 6+ billion is always sure to lead to compelling results.

Do I even need to facepalm?

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Firstly, there is millions of people who find sexual arousal from children and also millions who find no sexual arousal from anything.



I don't make half assed assumptions, I am very thorough in my rationality.

Secondly, when it comes to the context of 'natural' and what is to be deemed either natural or mental, a precursor to being able to categorically presume 'natural' origin on an act(sexuality) is by virtue of the definition, affecting all equally. Ie. If one makes the claim that it is natural for humans to eat, then all humans must abide by that precondition, otherwise either, A. They are not human Or B. Humans do not naturally eat, but rather eat out of lack of ability to do so otherwise.

Just like me and you, I do not lack the ability to change my sexual preference and you do. Clearly, either A. I am a super human or B. Sexuality is psychological or mentally originated.

Tchan909 said:

I identify as heterosexual - however, I do acknowledge the possibility that I probably could, if I wanted to, have sex with a man and ejaculate in him. I could also reverse roles.

Nobody can or would deny this.

The difference is that I actually prefer to have sex with women. And that's why I call myself straight.

I don't really understand from where your outrage with societal norms stems, unless you actually are omnisexual and get uncontrollably aroused by every living, breathing (or not) human being (or not).

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Honestly, social outrage doesn't exist in my vocabulary. Are you asking me why I do not believe 'normal' conceptions about sexuality?

Were on a forum, my outrage is just in your perception...I sit here calmly, analyzing and having fun.

But to answer your question, they are painful for me to believe in because they limit a complex subject. It is like limiting the subject of drugs, for example, your bound to miss out. Hallucinogens are bad, any thinking about them being good is bad, etc....they rot the brain, they make people go crazy....what else is something 'normal' that makes people miss out on something they might be looking for? I know if someone told me this a few years back when I believed the norms, I would have felt a great sense of relief.

BothHands said:

For christ's sake... There are other factors involved.  ALL variables cannot be removed.  I don't have the energy to argue further.

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Why don't you make any direct references to the argument I made instead of complaining uselessly.

cryptic_pickle said:

So AlphaFalfa - how did you change your sexual orientation?

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With mushrooms.