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Re: do you think 9/11 was an inside job??? [Re: nymphenthogenic]
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As if one copy of Zeitgeist wasn't enough, you embedded it incorrectly so we get two!


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Re: do you think 9/11 was an inside job??? [Re: Mr.Al]
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Mr.Al said:
Also, why the hell was the U.S. military conducting training operations on that day involving planes being hijacked??? 



Because that's all the military does when it's not at war. It's what we do everyday between deployments.

WTF kind of question is that?


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Re: do you think 9/11 was an inside job??? [Re: nymphenthogenic]
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nymphenthogenic said:
watch Zeitgeist. :waits:



:rofl2::rofl2:

Zeitgeist.


:ilold:


We had every reason to attack A.Q. It's an organization spread across the middle east and Asia that has no benevolent aims at all.

No, that's not Rhetoric, I have fought and interviewed A.Q. members.

Don't get Afghanistan and Iraq confused.


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Re: do you think 9/11 was an inside job??? [Re: Mr.Al]
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Mr.Al said:
The Project for a New American Century came out in September of 2000.  It should be clear to you that the political powers that be wanted to go back into the middle east.  They stated that an attack on U.S. soil would need to occur before they could do so.




I dont doubt that there are greedy, heartless people with there own self interest at heart within our government, I simply question the shoddy theorys people have proposed.

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Also, why the hell was the U.S. military conducting training operations on that day involving planes being hijacked???  It would be an astronomical coincidence that 911 wasn't an inside job based on that alone.



Yeah your right, whats our military doing training anyway? This is the future we have pills, and virtual reality for that now....right? :rolleyes:

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Dick Cheney was in charge of this!  Who else would be behind 911???



The idea that the US airforce is standing by around the entire country at all times just waiting for an airline hijacking is a movie myth. Go talk to a pilot, its pure fiction.


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HOW is it that "terrorist attacks" happened on the same day as identical "terrorist training exercises" happened in the U.K. as well





Its the military, its what they do. How else do you expect them to be ready?

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It should be obvious that the possibility of this sort of thing happening on two separate occasions in two different nations is just not a coincidence.



Nope, training is not a coincidence you are correct, and thankfully so.

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Terrorist training exercises that are identical to and occur on the same day as a supposed "terrorist attack" is  the closest thing to proof I can give you.



Sure, well just over look all those uneventful days when our military has "terrorist training exercises" yet nothing happens.


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How can you possibly deny this?



I dont deny anything, theres no need to if you examine the situation with a broad perspective. Say it with me now, correlation does not imply causation.

Stop basing your opinions on a propaganda film, think for yourself. You really cant find a more worthless source than online movies like zeitgeist, they are filled with inconsistency's, and outright lies. It all sounds like it could be true until you start examining the so called "facts", then everything falls apart.


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Re: do you think 9/11 was an inside job??? [Re: blewmeanie]
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Tandemcreations.org
LookupandWakeup.org

Ive filmed documentaries concerning the attacks.

"End the Silence" view here
http://www.lookupandwakeup.org/filmstowatch.php

"Remember Remember the 11th of September"
view here
http://www.lookupandwakeup.org/filmstowatch.php#4

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Re: do you think 9/11 was an inside job??? [Re: blewmeanie]
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totally agreed, & Im not questioning you Mr.Meanie but for my personal information what are some the facts you have examined to help my beliefs in movies like zeitgeist fall apart?


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Re: do you think 9/11 was an inside job??? [Re: docvictory]
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I almost watched it until I saw it was next to a chemtrail icon.


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Re: do you think 9/11 was an inside job??? [Re: blewmeanie]
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Alright peace dude,

They were conducting those exercises so the planes would be nowhere near the WTC.  They superimposed false radar images of planes on the radar screens so as to confuse the hell out of NORAD.  The guys at the radar screens had to ask whether it was real world or just an exercise!  I was in the military.  I know how these training exercises work.  How can you not see that both the training exercises in the U.S. and the U.K. were not used to confuse the issue of the actual real world events taking place?  The real perpetrators of 911 will not admit to it. 

Dude seriously, after seeing the training exercises in question (THAT ARE THE SAME SCENARIOS AS THE ACTUAL ATTACKS BOTH SIDES OF THE ATLANTIC) how can you possibly conclude that it is an innocent coincidence.


THIS does not make you suspicious????????

It is easy to sit back and say you have no opinion.

In a question as serious as governments murdering their populations for sociological manipulation you are disturbingly without opinion?

I refuse to believe that.
You must have an opinion.
Saying you don't have an opinion has to be a cop-out.

I have things to do.  I'll check back later to see if you're brave enough to post what your opinion is.

I really would like to know.

peace friend.

In regards to correlation/causation.

If someone just had their head blown off and some dude is standing next to the dead body with a smoking gun would you say this is merely correlation???
Perhaps we should debate this until the next false flag terrorist attack that is used for an excuse to destroy essential liberties and freedoms?  What do you think about Condy shaking her head from left to right as she's saying; "There are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq."
I call that a guilty conscience.

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Re: do you think 9/11 was an inside job??? [Re: drok]
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drok said:
totally agreed, & Im not questioning you Mr.Meanie but for my personal information what are some the facts you have examined to help my beliefs in movies like zeitgeist fall apart?



Start at the beginning, pause the movie at each claim, write it down, and research it.

For example, the movie begins (after all the BS) by comparing Jesus to Horus. These claims are made of Horus.

Horus was born of a virgin on/b]
Horus is the "reincarnation" of Osiris minus the wang. Some depiction of his "birth" even show his mother Isis sitting on his erect clay penis.

He had 12 disciples.
There is absolutely no evidence to suggest this.

He was buried in a tomb and resurrected
Osiris's body was cut into 14 pieces, and scattered around Egypt. Isis went to find them all, and buried them when she came across them. When she could find his penis she created one out of clay, and put all of the pieces back together and shazzam you've got Horus.

He was called by the same names as Jesus such as the way, the truth, the light, the messiah, gods son....ets
There is no basis for this.

He performed miracles, and raised the dead.
He was a god so yes you could say he performed miracles, that would be correct, and if you "raise the dead" you mean himself, then yes that would also be correct.


..........................etc.


This b/s goes on through out the whole movie, however by giving the impression of authority the narrator makes it all seem true.


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Re: do you think 9/11 was an inside job??? [Re: jwm285]
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jwm285 said:
let me know what you think???



Let me guess... you think the government is the ones who flew the planes into the buildings, and rigged the buildings with explosives right??

And let me make a second guess... you wouldn't happen to be a fan of Alex Jones would you?


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Re: do you think 9/11 was an inside job??? [Re: Mr.Al]
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didn't mean to scare you crasher

for anyone who refuses to investigate the 9/11 attacks for themselves are sheep.

for anyone who believes what the mainstream media/government says and to actually believe the gov't works in our (the people's) best interest, are complete mindless zombies.

denial is a strong force.

for anyone who refuses to discuss the 9/11 attacks because they believe in the government's official conspiracy theory-should enlist in the military and fight along side the rest of the brainwashed forces

remember, its ok to think for yourself...come on....you can do it now....1    2    3      think!

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Re: do you think 9/11 was an inside job??? [Re: Mr.Al]
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it was a total inside job there is no doubt...  all you people that disagree will play the opinion card but you know in your heart lies were told...  this whole thing was started to impose global government...  go do some research before you deny it...  the news does not count as research...

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Re: do you think 9/11 was an inside job??? [Re: jwm285]
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I was in the military.  I know how these training exercises work.



You were in the fucking infantry, not NORAD.

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didn't mean to scare you crasher
for anyone who refuses to investigate the 9/11 attacks for themselves are sheep.



Anyone who decides to swallow Alex Jones Bullshit and profess it as truth is also a sheep.

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for anyone who refuses to discuss the 9/11 attacks because they believe in the government's official conspiracy theory-should enlist in the military and fight along side the rest of the brainwashed forces



The vast majority of our fighting force is brighter and more articulate than anything you've claimed thus far.

Just because someone doesn't agree with your batshit crazy idea doesn't make them sheep. I've put time and effort into investigating the issue.

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remember, its ok to think for yourself...come on....you can do it now....1    2    3      think!



Take your own advice, tool.


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Re: do you think 9/11 was an inside job??? [Re: Crasher]
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oooooh shnapp!!!


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Re: do you think 9/11 was an inside job??? [Re: jwm285]
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Hey jwm285...are you a puppet or just another whacky conspiracy theorist looking to whore up another BB because they've kicked you outta the last one?

Your rhetoric is tired and bland.


That is all.


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Re: do you think 9/11 was an inside job??? [Re: ToTheSummit]
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i think you are the puppet and you dont even know it and thats the saddest part about this whole issue...  give it till the end of the year and you should know the truth...  and if you are really far gone you might never wake the fuck up...

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Re: do you think 9/11 was an inside job??? [Re: Mr.Al]
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Mr.Al said:
It is easy to sit back and say you have no opinion.

In a question as serious as governments murdering their populations for sociological manipulation you are disturbingly without opinion?




I have questions, and until I find answers to those questions no I will not form an opinion.

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I refuse to believe that.




ok :shrug:

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You must have an opinion.
Saying you don't have an opinion has to be a cop-out.




No, its logic. I have no love for the current administration, but I'm not going to let my political views cloud my reasoning.

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I have things to do.  I'll check back later to see if you're brave enough to post what your opinion is.




Ill be happy to discuss anything with you, but keep your shoddy debate tactics to yourself. Questioning my "bravery" does nothing to strengthen your argument. I may disagree with you, but I can respect your beliefs. Keep that in mind.


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In regards to correlation/causation.

If someone just had their head blown off and some dude is standing next to the dead body with a smoking gun would you say this is merely correlation???




yes I would, thats why we use forensic evidence in court.

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Perhaps we should debate this until the next false flag terrorist attack that is used for an excuse to destroy essential liberties and freedoms?  What do you think about Condy shaking her head from left to right as she's saying; "There are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq."
I call that a guilty conscience. 



I'd say condie, and the rest of them are dishonest tyrannical cunts who at the very least used the situation to further there political interest. Iraq has so far IMO been a disaster, Afghanistan is another story though. I dont deny the possibility of the current administration being involved on one level or another with the attack, but I have yet to see evidence suggesting such a thing.

I see allot of angry people (rightly so) trying to fit "facts" into there belief system rather than developing a belief from the evidence
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Re: do you think 9/11 was an inside job??? [Re: jwm285]
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I JUST GOT MY REAL ID CARD!!!!!
YAAAAY!!!!!


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Re: do you think 9/11 was an inside job??? [Re: jwm285]
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jwm285=:puppet:


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Re: do you think 9/11 was an inside job??? [Re: jwm285]
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ToTheSummit said:
That is all.




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