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Is It Possible To Be This Muscular Without Ever Using Steroids?
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If so, would it have to be genetics?

I don't want these muscles by the way, just want to know.


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Re: Is It Possible To Be This Muscular Without Ever Using Steroids? [Re: SprewellSleeve]
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Yes.

With the right diet and determination, you too can look like a muscular freakazoid.

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Re: Is It Possible To Be This Muscular Without Ever Using Steroids? [Re: SprewellSleeve]
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You'd have to be incredibly genetically gifted, and it would takes years if not decades, but it's possible.
It's highly unlikely that anyone looking like that hasn't used steroids though, IMO.


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Re: Is It Possible To Be This Muscular Without Ever Using Steroids? [Re: SprewellSleeve]
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Guys, it's completely impossible. I know IFBB pros and I've heard all the drug stories - I use them myself. I've trained as a natural and train with lifelong naturals, not just "clean" individuals who've only abstained from drugs for a while. And even they will confide that it's not possible.

I've trained with natural pros too. They don't look like that. Most "natural" pros just use less than a half gram of androgens each week and consider that a "natural" dose of steroids. GH, insulin, T3 and other peptides and hormones are also fair game in the natural competitive world.


Long story short: no, no, no and hell no. You couldn't train your whole life and be that muscled and conditioned at the same time. No way you can maintain a positive nitrogen balance that will hold that level of muscularity while you're dieted down unless you're taking drugs.


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Re: Is It Possible To Be This Muscular Without Ever Using Steroids? [Re: browndustin]
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I would say if you're in the top 0.0001% muscle building genetics, then yes.


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Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.

Nobody is able to achieve this completely but striving for such achievement is, in itself, a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security."

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Re: Is It Possible To Be This Muscular Without Ever Using Steroids? [Re: Cannashroom]
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Nope. Not at all, and it's a good thing considering your heart doesn't want all that strain.

The best way to tell if someone has used roids or not is likely their middle section (look how outflamed he is).


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Re: Is It Possible To Be This Muscular Without Ever Using Steroids? [Re: PyroBurns]
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Tom Venuto is a natural body builder and he looks pretty darn muscular.


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Re: Is It Possible To Be This Muscular Without Ever Using Steroids? [Re: sunflower]
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PyroBurns said:
Nope. Not at all, and it's a good thing considering your heart doesn't want all that strain.

The best way to tell if someone has used roids or not is likely their middle section (look how outflamed he is).


No it's not. There are a million fags with Myspace pics showing off their "abs-by-default" as I like to cal them. The best way to tell is the shoulders/traps and the thighs. They have a high density of androgen receptors.

When you have a juicer and a natural stand side by side with the same proportions, weight and muscle mass the juicer will always look better by leaps and bounds. The reason is because their muscles will have a fuller, more dense look. More water is held within the muscle as opposed to outside it in the subcutaneous layers.

Highly androgenic steroids like trenbolone will do this literally overnight. When I take tren, my muscles bring on a much more 3 dimensional look. Shoulders and traps have way more "pop" to them. Thighs get way thicker too.


Anytime you see some cat's shoulders explode at the gym you'll know he's on gear.

sunflower said:
Tom Venuto is a natural body builder and he looks pretty darn muscular.


Tom Venuto is a natural BULLSHITTER!!! Absolute fucking liar. Don't let that dumbass fool you. He's spent the better half of his life juiced to the gills. Now I believe he probably just uses normal therapeutic ranges of test with a lot of GH. He probably uses mild diuretics before his photoshoots and guest appearances as well. The world of health and fitness is far from health and fitness.


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Re: Is It Possible To Be This Muscular Without Ever Using Steroids? [Re: browndustin]
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Wait, do you think I meant his abs? What I meant was how bulky his midsection is and how it seems to stay ballooned out. But yeah the ultra pumped look is probably more obvious.


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Re: Is It Possible To Be This Muscular Without Ever Using Steroids? [Re: PyroBurns]
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Oh okay, you mean distention? That's also a very poor way to tell if someone's juicing or not. I've seen a lot of people who compete or just train natural, unnatural, etc... everyone's mid section is different. It's over eating that causes distension. I know people on every drug under the sun with a waist that's no bigger than 30" and they're heavily muscles over 200lbs.

Go by the shoulders and thighs. Works every time. If you see a guy who's traps go up to their ears, you'll know that they're swimming in gear.


First couple of days after I start a new cycle, shoulders get more full, traps get higher (they're naturally high, even before any steroids) and my thighs get thicker. Fiance always tells me how amazed she is with my thick legs, probably because I never wear pants at home :smile:


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Re: Is It Possible To Be This Muscular Without Ever Using Steroids? [Re: browndustin]
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Do you wear underwear?


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Re: Is It Possible To Be This Muscular Without Ever Using Steroids? [Re: browndustin]
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browndustin said:
If you see a guy who's traps go up to their ears, you'll know that they're swimming in gear.


I like that.  Stuck it in my back pocket for future use

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Re: Is It Possible To Be This Muscular Without Ever Using Steroids? [Re: memes]
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I saw a guy at the gym the other day cleaning over 200lbs with the biggest fucking thighs I have ever seen.  His thighs just popped out of his legs so huge.  His traps were pretty big too, wonder if he was juicing.  He was ultra jacked also, so it seems like a good possibility.


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This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and affection for a few persons nearest us.

Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.

Nobody is able to achieve this completely but striving for such achievement is, in itself, a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security."

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Re: Is It Possible To Be This Muscular Without Ever Using Steroids? [Re: SprewellSleeve]
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That guy doesn't look all that massive to me really.  I think people could get into the ballpark with very good genes and absolute dedication.

Many people have a defeatist and apathetic attitude when it comes to major body transformation.  Maybe it's a guy who is half ass all of the time in the gym, or just a guy who tries but has shit genes.  They feel more comfortable saying a guy had to use gear to get his physique.  In doing so the people on gear feel more affirmed in their decision to use it and the guys who are completely out of shape take any credit from the guys who are built.

I don't know who the guy in the picture is or whether or not he ever juiced.  It does anger me to no end when people assume everyone with a decent build has used gear.  I used to get accused of it all of the time.  Not outright accused, but when the same guys you know from work and the gym ask you countless times if you've ever juiced, you know they are just trying to cut you down so they feel better about themselves.


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Re: Is It Possible To Be This Muscular Without Ever Using Steroids? [Re: PowerTrip]
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Aren't most people with that kind of build very unhealthy though? I met a guy who was a professional body builder and he has to be so careful, his body is actually very fragile. Its a work of art, but from the medical problems it seemed to cause it didn't seem very healthy.

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Re: Is It Possible To Be This Muscular Without Ever Using Steroids? [Re: browndustin]
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browndustin said:
Guys, it's completely impossible. I know IFBB pros and I've heard all the drug stories - I use them myself. I've trained as a natural and train with lifelong naturals, not just "clean" individuals who've only abstained from drugs for a while. And even they will confide that it's not possible.

I've trained with natural pros too. They don't look like that. Most "natural" pros just use less than a half gram of androgens each week and consider that a "natural" dose of steroids. GH, insulin, T3 and other peptides and hormones are also fair game in the natural competitive world.


Long story short: no, no, no and hell no. You couldn't train your whole life and be that muscled and conditioned at the same time. No way you can maintain a positive nitrogen balance that will hold that level of muscularity while you're dieted down unless you're taking drugs.


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Re: Is It Possible To Be This Muscular Without Ever Using Steroids? [Re: PowerTrip]
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PowerTrip said:
That guy doesn't look all that massive to me really.  I think people could get into the ballpark with very good genes and absolute dedication.

Many people have a defeatist and apathetic attitude when it comes to major body transformation.  Maybe it's a guy who is half ass all of the time in the gym, or just a guy who tries but has shit genes.  They feel more comfortable saying a guy had to use gear to get his physique.  In doing so the people on gear feel more affirmed in their decision to use it and the guys who are completely out of shape take any credit from the guys who are built.

I don't know who the guy in the picture is or whether or not he ever juiced.  It does anger me to no end when people assume everyone with a decent build has used gear.  I used to get accused of it all of the time.  Not outright accused, but when the same guys you know from work and the gym ask you countless times if you've ever juiced, you know they are just trying to cut you down so they feel better about themselves.


He's a wrestler.He used to be very athletic.Now...not so much.

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Re: Is It Possible To Be This Muscular Without Ever Using Steroids? [Re: SprewellSleeve]
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browndustin is correct, it ain't gonna happen.

Even if you're juicing it's not a given.  You still have to have good genetics to get that large, balanced (as far body builders go) look.


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