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Dream-Scape Registered: 02/26/08 Posts: 1,623 Loc: Philly Last seen: 9 years, 4 months |
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Bluntzilla FTW |
Tsar Bomba Registered: 01/17/07 Posts: 11,922 Loc: Montreal, Canada Last seen: 1 year, 1 month |
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Someone besides me on here on high Adderall dose! Therefor you deserve ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Balance Registered: 04/19/06 Posts: 8,266 Loc: the space betwee Last seen: 2 months, 28 days |
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mon mon
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My bruises arebl Registered: 09/04/05 Posts: 1,134 Loc: Ak Last seen: 13 years, 3 months |
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Right on, good to see another alaskan
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Dopamine Enthusiast Registered: 09/14/08 Posts: 4,360 Loc: USA Last seen: 6 years, 2 months |
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what you are talking about. Subutex has the exact same opioid as Suboxone it just doesn't contain naloxone. Naloxone doesn't get absorbed when administered through a mucous membrane like the mouth or nasal passage and doesn't play much of a factor if people even IV Suboxone until you get into the 8mg/whole pill range. If someone is IV'ing their Sub-utex-oxone then they're not really trying to get clean of opiates/opioids but that isn't what this thread is even talking about. People who take buprenorphine to get off of opioids don't get high from it, don't get euphoria, and certainly don't get "heroin in a pill." It simply stops the cravings. If you were to take a shot of dope while having a lot of buprenorphine in your system you wouldn't get sick from the naloxone in Suboxone, that is irrelevant. You would get sick from the buprenorphine because it has such a high binding affinity for the mu-opioid receptor. So Subutex/Suboxone are identical for people truly trying to get clean and use them as such. Naloxone means nothing... it just allows Reckitt to charge a fuck-ton of money for shit that costs very little by itself. Many, many doctors do give Subutex to people who used opioids illicitly it and it was not directed towards a specific type of addict. Rx guidelines aren't that specific in law and it is only directed by the Dr.'s discretion. Buprenorphine has never been formulated in doses above the milligram range for pain because it sucks balls at that dosage and antagonizes its own more powerful analgesic metabolite norbuprenorphine, blocking its action. | |||||
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