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OfflineNarttram
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Visuals
10/27/09 11:23 AM

For your clarification on Visuals.

"Four main classes of visuals occur, all due to signals fading more slowly:

1. radial rainbow patterns or feathers
2. layered which includes trails
3. polyopia which includes wallpaper patterns
4. semi-independent animation/halucination

1. the rainbow patterns are visual cortex interference patterns due to slower fading of visual input, such that points of light radiating waves on the cortex interfere with points from succeeding visual moments. This produces gorgeous candy images from streetlights at night, but it is a bit subtle for daylight.

2. Layered celluloid images are complete images that persist longer and layer over succeding frames of visual input which include:
a) being able to still see behind yourself after turning around (360 degree vision)
b) seeing trails following a moving object.
c) seeing through an image into an underlying image that was before you a moment ago...
d) seeing a memory tableau superimposed on the visual field.

3. Polyopia is seeing multiples of images like feathers or stars or any motif, this also includes seeing miniature motifs that are in some way related to set and setting. It is characterized by multiple distinct elements fitting together in a fantastic but natural way, not normally possible in 3-d cartesian space.
Polyopia is strongly suggestive of an holographic process (known to be true) being involved in ongoing mentation. I often see neon graffiti or writing that cannot be read, it changes so quickly, or cartoon characters...

4. Semi-independent halucination is most common with delerients but it does occur with psychedelics and it also is due to layering or persistence, but it is a longer chain of persistence that permits it, such as when parts of the self break off and seem to have ongoing ideas of their own that are seemingly at odds with the tripper. This is the part that makes superstitious people go insane, or religious people declaim visits by angels and deamons..."

redgreenvines responded on 01/28/10 05:34 PM:

I guess I should add the coronas from dilation of pupils, those coronas feed into the feathers etc.

InvisibleChronic7

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LSD -Pure Conscious Experience
11/01/09 06:10 AM

"here is a fresh take
maybe the drug or the meditation increases resonance
then the attitude rules.
once can cultivate an attitude that does not latch on
and by not latching on while maintaining interest and attention
and being "oh so resonant"
something wonderfully ambiguous takes over, yet it is not a thing.
the resonance is a thing
the euphoria is a thing
the direction towards letting go is a thing
but the ongoing moment in which ambiguity and identity make a yin yang source of joy while latching on to no-thing is emptiness."


what you said above is great i feel
really nice quote! :thumbup:

:peace:

Last Edited 11/04/09 08:05 AM

redgreenvines responded on 11/15/09 02:38 PM:

I think "once" should be "one"
it is a bad typo.

Offlinedointhangz
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yee
12/13/09 02:44 PM

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OfflineNastyDHL
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thanks
12/29/09 09:29 AM

thanks for the response...i feel what you mean

redgreenvines responded on 12/29/09 04:20 PM:

hey!

OfflineMan in the Box
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you are badass
01/25/10 05:30 PM

it is hard to understand you sometimes, but you are always meaningful, and I read your posts like poetry

redgreenvines responded on 01/26/10 07:44 PM:

lot of people say that
guess it is what is left when life blasts off the rough edges.

Offlinemarmarwoohoo
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Interesting figure
01/26/10 10:49 PM

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OfflineDeeGee
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THE salvia man
01/26/10 10:53 PM

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OfflineBrian the Shroom
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Great post
03/18/10 08:33 AM

"you have to be able to operate with no closure.
you have to be able to operate with unsatisfactoriness.
your trips will remind you that there is no closure and that unsatisfactoriness is part of totality.
to trip well you have to be able to work with this - to use this as a connection to the universe.

everything else is coddling - an attempted return to innocence, to a time when you did not know this - like searching for the fountain of youth, the goose that lays the golden egg etc.

you need to cultivate integrity without closure and the ability to deal with restlessness by relaxing on an ongoing basis."

This was probably one of the best posts i've ever read

redgreenvines responded on 03/20/10 02:12 AM:

thanks braintheshroom
it is one of the best posts I ever wrote.

InvisibleShad0w
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I always like reading what you have to say. Thanks.
05/05/10 03:35 PM

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12495664#12495664

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OfflineMetamorph
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Fellow salvianaut
06/07/10 03:33 PM

+5 :thumbup:
InvisiblePrimal Glitch
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unique mind
06/17/10 06:48 PM

you add so much to this forum

just keep being you

:shineon:

redgreenvines responded on 12/07/10 05:34 PM:

thanks

Last Edited 12/07/10 05:37 PM

InvisibleFerdinando
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Unwordly - maybe excellent
11/19/10 09:19 AM

I recommend regularly using the search engine and typing redgreenvines in the posted by field.
It is also fun to read his posts.

He is very precise, very concise and efficient, consistently correct and very very wise.

It may take practice to understand some of what he says and it helps sticking to it.

Last Edited 11/19/10 09:32 AM

redgreenvines responded on 12/07/10 05:38 PM:

hey
too kind
but I do try to keep consistent,
and it is not too hard when I am talking about consciousness and getting stoned

Offlineimachavel
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here you go
03/18/11 06:16 PM

honestly this is so cool, and true;):

"the clowns learned how to control things
even the shroomery's three ring spiritual circus has become a pratfallen angel's graveyard full of grumpy old men with goalie mask avatars.

all of this because some one laughed at them in the school yard a long time ago."

5 shrooms :mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2:

Edit: thanks for helping me interpret my dream

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24084905/vc/1#24084905

Last Edited 02/12/17 01:36 PM

redgreenvines responded on 03/19/11 07:07 AM:

so it turned into argument, "show me now"-ism, in a cloak of debunkery, and a heaping helping of clownish bully behavior.

that's what you have now, old men pretending to be virtual vikings stomping around drunkenly over any kind of idea which is different, and a few acolytes that are probably quite painful in real life cheering them on.

I try to be supportive, but it gets sore.

Invisiblequinn
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when i first came to this place...
03/20/11 10:45 PM

re rating! dude your posts always fascinate me. lately your posting style seems much more comprehensive and thought out than the 'whimsical poetry' of old.

i dont know if this is due to some massive change in your life, mindset or just style, whatever, i approve! :thumbup::thumbup::mushroom2:

Quote:

i thought u were totally nuts!

now after becoming (somewhat) used to your allusive, whimsical posting style,
i think you often have some very interesting insights and i enjoy seeing u round the forums! :thumbup:

(ps- liked your posts just now on dream states)

(pps- still think u r a bit nuts tho)




Last Edited 07/27/12 06:42 AM

redgreenvines responded on 03/22/11 05:51 PM:

thanks for noticing
I regard the mad hatter and march hare with awe

InvisibleaNeway2sayHooray
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I guess I never rated you.
05/03/11 09:43 PM

I use to love reading your explanations of the Salvia Space. I wasnt around for a few years and its nice to see you are still around.

:atom:

redgreenvines responded on 05/04/11 02:08 AM:

hooray!

Offlinelewisplanthead
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lovely
06/15/11 07:20 PM

:sun::sun::sun::sun::sun:
InvisibleMidnight_Toker
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08/22/11 11:55 AM

Intelligent person with an interesting take on things.  I like the odd ways in which you get your point across.
:thumbup:

Last Edited 08/22/11 11:56 AM
OfflineAdolin
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Salvia
10/09/11 12:20 PM

I liked your post Here

:mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2:

redgreenvines responded on 10/09/11 08:49 PM:

thanks
I also wear sunglasses at night
mostly cause they are comfortable

Offlineeira
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years ago you wrote this
12/12/11 03:16 PM

Quote:

not very analytical are you folks -
a bad trip?
what happenned? did something inside come up?
if so you need to look at it.
going again is your own path, someone else can't tell you where to turn.
your bad trip is a reflection of something in your life, not an isolated shroom event, you need to look into this and heal.
going into a visionary state can be part of healing, in fact, there may be no other valid reason for taking shrooms. how much you take and how often relates to how you manage your healing/vision questing/or perspective shifting.
i don't reccommend competitive dosing or consumerist expectations.




:congrats:

redgreenvines responded on 12/15/11 01:31 PM:

it still seems to make sense if I read it slowly.

I think a lot of dumb people do look at psychedelics in the same way that they look at cases of beer.

they probably look at sex that way too - prolly also real estate & vacationing etc.

yay - consume mass quantities.
ozymandias


OfflineBomb Diggity
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I like you
01/12/12 05:55 AM

You don't know me, nor do I know you, but I have liked every single one of your posts I have ever read, they all have a little something we can all learn from, I think you're pretty wise and a great human being.

So here's some useless internet shrooms, but that's not the important part, it's the intention giving them to you.
:heart:

redgreenvines responded on 01/12/12 11:45 AM:

hot diggity dog and thanks for shrooms, i think I will make a virtual pasta sauce with them, have a great day!

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