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Throwing $600 at permaculture project.
      12/29/23 12:23 AM

So I've decided to go all in on buying a bunch of trees, shrubs, perennial plants, and some seeds. About $700 worth.

I've already dropped $180 on three hazelnut trees (Jefferson Yamhill & Eta). I have them planted in-ground next to my figs, of which I have 9 varieties.

Currently, sitting in various interweb shopping carts I have

Live plants:

(Cancelled)

Blue Hawthorn (Crataegus Schraderana)
Puciumol Medlar
Illinois Everbearing Mulberry
Regent Juneberry
Crandall Current
Ben Lomand Currant
Captivator Gooseberry
Sabine Gooseberry
Norway Spruce

(Coming in March, prolly)
Oregon Grape
Red Gem ™ Goumi
Sweet Scarlet Goumi ™
Orange Glow™ Sea Berry

(Recieved, being kept dormant)
Blue False Indigo
American Groundnut
Blue Moon Honeyberry
Blue Velvet Honeyberry
Blue Hokkaido Honeyberry
Anna Hardy Kiwi (f)
Meader Hardy Kiwi (m)

(Planted)
Red-Osier Dogwood

Seeds:

(Recieved, germination not started)
Princess Tree
Sea Berry
Black Locust
Black Alder
Downy Hawthorn
Midland Hawthorn
Fleshy Hawthorn
English Hawthorn
Carolina Buckthorn
Thornless Honeylocust
Siberian Peashrub
Red Lake Currant
Consort Black Currant
Illinois Bundleflower
Schisandra chinensis
Zizyphus spinosa (sour jujube for rootstock and whole plants)

All that, not counting the hazelnuts I already got, is about $500 $400.

Sea Berry needs both male and female. I got the one patented Orange Glow™, and some seeds from which I should be able to get some males for pollen and some females to compare to the fancy ™ one.

For the Hawthorns, I went with seeds for all but the Schraderana because I couldn't find seeds for that one, and it's supposed to be the best tasting one. The other hawthorns, they're mostly for medicinal use, and possibly rootstock, but I already have two Old Home x Farmingdale 87 pears that make excellent rootstock for pretty much anything a hawthorn rootstock could be used for.

All the Tillamook Goumis are out of stock for the year, apparently, which is the only one I really wanted, but fuck it, I guess. I'll get that one next year.

The red osier dogwood is good for making arrows. the locusts and alder are good nitrogen fixers, and fast lumber/firewood producers. False indigo is a nitrogen fixer. Norway spruce is good for spruce beer and tea The goumis and sea berries are nitrogen fixers. Princess tree is fast growing lumber.Medlar is a fruit that is medieval AF and looks like a butthole, according to Shakespeare in several of his plays. Oregon grape makes fruit and berberine. Groundnut is a nitrogen fixer with edible tubers. siberian peashrub is a nitrogen fixer with edible legumes and maybe my best perennial protein producer.

I think everything else is just fruit. Mulberry is a massive producer of fruit, apparently. The calories per square foot is pretty high for a mature tree. It, along with hazelnut, figs, and pears grafted to bradford pear, will be the powerhouse food producers of my food forest. I don't expect to add much more. This really feels like it's probably enough.

Maybe a spicebush, tho.

I think this covers all 7 layers of permaculture, and should get me off to a good start. I've got a little over a half acre that I've designated for food forest; basically, the front, back, and perimeter of my property. Most of these plants can be propagated from cuttings, runners, suckers, or seed, so I'll be making more of them as I go along rather than buying, like, 20-30 of everything. I might even start a nursery business or something when I get to the point that I don't have room for any more plants.

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Edited by Baby_Hitler (01/19/24 11:25 AM)

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. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Nillion   12/29/23 09:51 AM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. yoosername   12/29/23 10:12 AM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Baby_Hitler   12/29/23 11:16 AM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Nillion   12/29/23 03:52 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Baby_Hitler   12/29/23 06:58 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Baby_Hitler   12/31/23 04:05 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Asante   12/31/23 05:43 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Baby_Hitler   12/31/23 07:57 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Towns77   01/02/24 04:38 AM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Baby_Hitler   01/02/24 03:32 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Towns77   01/02/24 06:57 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. LogicaL Chaos   01/02/24 08:12 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Baby_Hitler   01/03/24 11:47 AM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Towns77   01/03/24 11:52 AM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Baby_Hitler   01/03/24 11:55 AM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Towns77   01/03/24 12:15 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Baby_Hitler   01/03/24 09:07 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Towns77   01/04/24 02:50 AM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Baby_Hitler   01/04/24 07:27 AM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Towns77   01/04/24 12:04 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Baby_Hitler   01/04/24 06:11 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Towns77   01/05/24 03:30 AM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Baby_Hitler   01/06/24 09:19 AM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Towns77   01/06/24 12:41 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Baby_Hitler   01/06/24 09:16 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Towns77   01/07/24 02:53 AM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Towns77   01/10/24 04:20 AM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Baby_Hitler   01/10/24 09:32 AM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Towns77   01/10/24 12:01 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Towns77   01/14/24 12:29 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. stockw   01/15/24 08:11 AM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Baby_Hitler   01/15/24 09:28 AM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Baby_Hitler   01/15/24 09:31 AM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Towns77   01/15/24 11:50 AM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Baby_Hitler   01/15/24 12:25 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Towns77   01/15/24 12:27 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Baby_Hitler   01/15/24 12:34 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Towns77   01/15/24 12:37 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. LogicaL Chaos   01/15/24 07:14 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Baby_Hitler   01/15/24 08:00 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $600 at permaculture project. Baby_Hitler   01/19/24 10:34 AM
. * * Re: Throwing $600 at permaculture project. geokillsA   01/20/24 10:57 AM
. * * Re: Throwing $600 at permaculture project. Baby_Hitler   01/20/24 08:59 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Towns77   01/16/24 03:15 AM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. LogicaL Chaos   01/19/24 01:34 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. LogicaL Chaos   01/03/24 09:36 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Baby_Hitler   12/29/23 12:06 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. yoosername   12/29/23 01:48 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Baby_Hitler   12/29/23 02:00 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. yoosername   12/29/23 05:07 PM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Asante   12/29/23 11:18 AM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. Baby_Hitler   12/29/23 11:44 AM
. * * Re: Throwing $700 at permaculture project. LogicaL Chaos   12/29/23 01:58 PM


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