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The Priest vs the Saint. Are you religious, or just afraid of consequence?
      11/21/23 01:34 PM

So I’ve been grappling with this one for a long time.
A priest is somebody who works for God. It’s like their employee. They do all of this work so they don’t go to hell. They want people to not go to hell. And they spend their whole lives in service to God because of the concept that they get to go to heaven. That’s it, that’s what motivates them in their lives.

Now separate of that. Is a saint. Now all saints aren’t recognized, but it doesn’t change the fact that they are. This is a person that acts genuinely, because they know it is the right thing to do. That is their motivation for doing it. These people will wash lepers. These people will build wells. These people will build homes. Just because that is what you’re supposed to do. You’re supposed to make this world a better place. You’re supposed to uplift people.

Now technically, if that person doesn’t belong to a church. The priest would tell them they’re going to hell.

The saint would say that is not true. They have served God in their way. If anything. The priest is going to hell…

I think it comes down to intention.

If you are in service of God. And your entire reason for being religious is to go to heaven, or to not go to hell.
You’re not actually serving a higher power.
If all of this is just for you getting across the finish line. You’re not actually trying to help the people. You’re just trying to make sure you go to heaven.

The saint on the other hand, doesn’t care about heaven or hell. it never did matter to the saint. They just want the world to be better. They just want to help people. That’s why they will be uplifted by God.

I often question if Mother Teresa was actually a saint or a priest.
Was she doing all of those things because she was scared of going to hell?
Or was she doing all those things because she genuinely wanted to just make peoples lives better?

This is why I feel like going to church is an optional thing. It doesn’t change anything about where you are spiritually as long as you do believe. As long as you are good. As long as you do things because you want to do good things. That is what actually matters in the grand scheme.

Doing something because you know it’s the right thing to do and you don’t want to go to hell. Will not be a genuine act of kindness.

It almost feels like the priest is selling you a line of bullshit to try and guarantee himself a good return on his investment.

The saint will work, their entire lives, and die in poverty. Because they died doing what they believed in.
That is the true faith. It isn’t for promises of glory or threats of anguish. It is because it is the right thing to do.

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Edited by GenesisCorrupted (11/29/23 10:26 PM)

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. * * Re: The Priest vs the Saint. Are you religious, or just afraid of consequence? KickleM   11/21/23 02:49 PM
. * * Re: The Priest vs the Saint. Are you religious, or just afraid of consequence? GenesisCorrupted   11/21/23 02:54 PM
. * * Re: The Priest vs the Saint. Are you religious, or just afraid of consequence? KickleM   11/21/23 02:57 PM
. * * Re: The Priest vs the Saint. Are you religious, or just afraid of consequence? GenesisCorrupted   11/21/23 03:01 PM
. * * Re: The Priest vs the Saint. Are you religious, or just afraid of consequence? KickleM   11/21/23 03:08 PM
. * * Re: The Priest vs the Saint. Are you religious, or just afraid of consequence? GenesisCorrupted   11/21/23 03:13 PM
. * * Re: The Priest vs the Saint. Are you religious, or just afraid of consequence? KickleM   11/21/23 03:14 PM
. * * Re: The Priest vs the Saint. Are you religious, or just afraid of consequence? GenesisCorrupted   11/21/23 03:15 PM
. * * Re: The Priest vs the Saint. Are you religious, or just afraid of consequence? KickleM   11/21/23 03:16 PM
. * * Re: The Priest vs the Saint. Are you religious, or just afraid of consequence? GenesisCorrupted   11/21/23 03:23 PM
. * * Re: The Priest vs the Saint. Are you religious, or just afraid of consequence? KickleM   11/21/23 03:29 PM
. * * Re: The Priest vs the Saint. Are you religious, or just afraid of consequence? GenesisCorrupted   11/21/23 03:53 PM
. * * Re: The Priest vs the Saint. Are you religious, or just afraid of consequence? KickleM   11/21/23 03:58 PM
. * * Re: The Priest vs the Saint. Are you religious, or just afraid of consequence? GenesisCorrupted   11/21/23 04:01 PM
. * * Re: The Priest vs the Saint. Are you religious, or just afraid of consequence? KickleM   11/21/23 04:10 PM
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. * * Re: The Priest vs the Saint. Are you religious, or just afraid of consequence? GenesisCorrupted   11/26/23 10:28 PM
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