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Re: Trump calls CNN fake news
      01/17/17 01:29 PM

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KauaiOrca said:
I don't think you understand how leveraged trading works ... not being a dick here, just being honest.



I get finance and leveraging extremely well, and based on the current discussion I'm pretty sure I get it better than you.  I have an MBA from a reputable college with an emphasis in finance.  But that's irrelevant if I can't explain it:

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KauaiOrca said:
The whole system is designed to turn debt into assets.



I get leverage.  It allows you to borrow lots of money that you can use to invest.  If your leveraged investment is profitable, you will make a lot; if not you will lose a lot.  Either way, you have to pay back the borrowed money.

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KauaiOrca said:
Whether it's our fractional reserve lending system...



I've had many lengthy discussions on fractional reserve banking showing how little people know about it.  Did you know that every dollar loaned into existence under fractional reserve banking is taken back out of existence when the loan is paid back?

Why Money Disappears When Loans Are Repaid

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KauaiOrca said:
the way massive derivatives leverage is created or the way IPO's are funded ... the way margin trading is done ... It's all about leverage.



Once again, I get leverage.  It allows people invest more than they have.  Leveraged money is not free money; it's borrowed money, which has to be paid back.

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KauaiOrca said:
The underlying assets are MANIPULATED by the way derivatives are used to create price movements.



Investors tend to look at derivatives to help them guess what the underlying asset will do in the future, and that might effect trading prices for the underlying asset.  But keep in mind that for every derivative purchased, someone else sold that derivative, and only one of those two will make money - the other will lose the corresponding amount.  A zero sum game.

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KauaiOrca said:
Banks are not, for the most part, lending money coming from depositers for all of this stuff ... It's much more complicated than that.



Again, I am intimately familiar with fractional reserve banking.  Let me know if you have any questions about it.

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