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InvisibleAmericanSpirit
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Serotonin & Dopamine, Permanent Ego Transcendence - Psychedelic implications
      01/25/10 04:13 PM

Serotonin is love and Dopamine is Ego. Both regulate the same functions of the nervous system in different ways.

The Ego is a rigorous, instinctive, imprinted, impulsive projection mechanism, oriented toward personal survival and enjoyment. The heart is creative and altruistic, impersonal, too simple to be imprinted except where it interacts with the ego.

Subjectivity increases with Serotonin because it loosens the imprinting of the Ego - which is why the four higher circuits on the    8 circuit model of consciousness  are accessed through serotonin (& compassion, activism) increasing drugs, lowest on the list being pot.

I suspect Ketamine, 8th circuit activator, is an exception. When the Ego is transcended, the 8th circuit can be permanently activated because the impulsiveness of an ego-driven semantic script is shut down and present mindedness is perfected - the mind travels directly through the causal stream, rather than processing logic through abstractions (maps) and verbalizations. Ketamine probably simply inhibits the semantic mind in a manner capable of producing a similar, temporary, state of consciousness - but without it resulting from unconditional, ego free love.

Schizophrenia

typical antipsychotics primarily inhibit dopamine, and atypicals inhibit primarily serotonin. Both, in general, are tranquillizers, meaning they reduce level of neural activity. Typicals decrease drive, self expression, self esteem, motivation to socialize - impulsive forward momentum, and even sometimes trigger symptoms of Parkinson's Disease.

Hallucinations and delusions (projections, into the imagination and the environment) reduce on typicals - probably because the ego is a projection mechanism.

Hallucinations and delusions probably reduce on atypicals because love is the source of creativity.

5-htp - an over the counter antidepressant, converts dopamine to serotonin, stops working when dopamine levels drop below a certain point. Have read at least one study wherein it was successfully used to treat a Schizophrenic, and heresay that it reduces frequency of hallucinations on psychedelic trips - and has been helpful to other schizophrenics. Has only been around since the 90s, ill researched.

If it could be taken at high enough dosages on moderate dosages of mushrooms, lsa, or lsd to abort the trip, dedication to meditating on unconditional love for the duration of the trip might provide a method of permanently transcending the Ego. But it is new, I have seen evidence it can be very dangerous in combination with certain other drugs (such as prozac), and it has not been researched extensively enough for effectiveness and safety to have been established.

LSD, LSA, Shrooms, & DMT act primarily on the serotonin neurotransmitter system, although dopamine levels temporarily increase while tripping - in the long term, their usage tends to decrease dopamine levels.

the 3rd & 4th circuits

Cow poop in the grasslands attracts hallucinogenic mushrooms, grassland chimps evolved into human tribes. Mushrooms rapidly increase level of neural activity, a serotonin boost would have (at lower dosages) increased sexual behavior, hunting ability, and social skills - since greater levels of serotonin would've encouraged a greater desire to communicate, & the hearts of these chimps would've embraced more than their traditional social bodies - having so enlarged.

This event could've easily, in the long term, triggered the socio-sexual & semantic circuits.

During the puberty years, personality development researches have noticed a marked increase in personality deviation, whereas for the rest of the life course it is generally stable - possibly because of a serotonin boost.

placebo

Heartless (remorseless) ego is imprinted too rigorously to be subjective enough to respond to a sugar cube as if it were a stimulant or a depressant, but a creative artist, a guy with elevated serotonin levels, can turn that sugar cube into either - if properly triggered. The internal manifestation of impulsive creativity. The ego produces the impulsive identification, & the heart amplifies it, or makes it work.

Psychedelic Drugs after Total Ego Transcendence

Love unmodified by Ego doesn't discriminate, doesn't feed on situational triggers, so it expands on its own. Its food source is infinite, so long as bodily health is maintained *(whatever form that body may take).

This results in a # of benefits: choice oriented nervous system direction - "placebo" becomes conscious decision. An unbiased reasoning faculty *(although the evidence processed before the switch, intuited from, may still produce bias results even after the ego is gone). &

exceedingly high levels of serotonin, naturally - but experienced free of delusion or hallucination. Meaning, any dosage of a physically harmless Serotonin increasing drug could theoretically be taken every day without decreasing physical or mental performance, permanently increasing the user's range of ability and ability level.

Learning would become very rapid because old programming would not inhibit one's ability to learn, and because the instructions given would be processed objectively.

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. * * the Dark Night of the Soul, & Temporary vs. Permanent Ego Transcendence AmericanSpirit   01/25/10 04:25 PM
. * * a few techniques that have been useful to me. AmericanSpirit   01/25/10 04:36 PM
. * * Re: a few techniques that have been useful to me. daturaplane   01/26/10 06:32 PM
. * * Re: a few techniques that have been useful to me. AmericanSpirit   01/26/10 07:46 PM
. * * Re: a few techniques that have been useful to me. notapillow   01/26/10 09:24 PM
. * * Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. AmericanSpirit   01/26/10 11:28 PM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. solstice   01/27/10 06:57 AM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. PsychoPsilocin   01/27/10 10:11 AM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. notapillow   01/27/10 11:32 AM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. solstice   01/27/10 11:58 AM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. notapillow   01/27/10 03:53 PM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. AmericanSpirit   01/27/10 05:35 PM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. AmericanSpirit   01/27/10 06:43 PM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. notapillow   01/27/10 10:32 PM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. AmericanSpirit   01/27/10 10:47 PM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. tony serro   01/28/10 07:42 AM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. AmericanSpirit   01/28/10 01:21 PM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. tony serro   01/28/10 01:28 PM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. tony serro   01/28/10 01:30 PM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. AmericanSpirit   01/28/10 01:48 PM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. tony serro   01/29/10 07:08 AM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. notapillow   01/29/10 11:43 AM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. AmericanSpirit   01/29/10 06:47 PM
. * * pragmatism. AmericanSpirit   01/29/10 06:57 PM
. * * Re: pragmatism. solstice   01/29/10 07:07 PM
. * * Re: pragmatism. Jabbawaya   01/29/10 07:09 PM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. Libertin   01/29/10 07:10 PM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. AmericanSpirit   01/29/10 11:43 PM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. tony serro   02/02/10 09:09 AM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. AmericanSpirit   02/02/10 08:17 PM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. AmericanSpirit   02/02/10 08:26 PM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. AmericanSpirit   02/02/10 08:29 PM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. notapillow   02/02/10 10:31 PM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. AmericanSpirit   02/02/10 11:28 PM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. akira_akuma   02/02/10 11:38 PM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. AmericanSpirit   02/03/10 09:51 PM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. tony serro   02/04/10 07:16 AM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. solstice   02/05/10 06:52 AM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. tony serro   02/05/10 07:37 AM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. solstice   02/05/10 11:06 AM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. tony serro   02/05/10 06:44 PM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. solstice   02/06/10 06:48 AM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. LovinItMane   02/06/10 07:36 AM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. NWlight   02/06/10 07:58 AM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. Diploid   02/03/10 10:21 PM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. notapillow   02/04/10 09:27 AM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. tony serro   02/04/10 09:30 AM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. notapillow   02/04/10 09:31 AM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. tony serro   02/04/10 09:34 AM
. * * Re: Experimental research required, in the underground if not the mainstream. tony serro   01/27/10 12:49 PM
. * * Re: Serotonin & Dopamine, Permanent Ego Transcendence - Psychedelic implications Jabbawaya   01/27/10 12:54 PM
. * * the reason so much information is covered, AmericanSpirit   01/27/10 02:45 PM
. * * Re: the reason so much information is covered, deCypher   01/27/10 03:37 PM


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